The Second Cyberverse Movie "The Perfect Decepticon" is now on Youtube

A much better ending to the show. Also a lot of Hot Rod showing his inner prime. Which also happens around the same time that Optimus is looking like he's about to go down. While there is no Rodimus Prime, I feel Hot Rod has really been done justice here. Had there been the roddy evolution, it actually would have felt deserved, what with Hot Rod showing he could be a good leader multiple times, and even earning Soundwave's respect.

I legit laughed at "Trypticon Park" poor Trypti. Guess it's better then getting turned into a space ship and forgotten about.

over all,

I've said before that I almost didn't give this show a fair chance after the first few episodes. Chalked it up to just dumb playing down to kids. But then I came back to it, and saw named characters get on screen killed. I was like.. wait, WHAT!, then I went back and watched everything. All in all, it did have its dumb kiddy cartoony moments, but so did Beast Wars and Animated, both shows I hold in high regard. Ultimately Cyberverse turned out to be a great show, with lots of nods to both cartoon and comic lore of yesteryear. I mean we basically have Underbase Starscream in this. While I wouldn't quite put it up there on my personal best lists with Beast Wars or Prime, it does come close with Animated.

Give the whole thing a watch, and keep with it into the second season before you write it off. it is worth it imho. I genuinely hope this show succeeds in spawning a new generation of fans.

Sabrblade wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Somebody remind me, what happened to Shockwave?

He extracted his own sinful spark in an attempt to kill Heaven, but Cheetor countered its effects by cleansing the Allspark with his own pure-hearted spark. Way back in the four-parter "Battle for Cybertron".

I barely remember any of that. I guess they had to get him out of the way for the story to play out like it did.

Cyberverse Season 4's two specials have been uploaded to YouTube edited together in one video as a single combined movie, under the new title of "Optimus Prime Fights for Cybertron!"

I finally caved and watched the first five episodes of season one.

I watched the first episode a few years ago, and its not hard to see why I didn't continue.

I really don't enjoy this show (at this point). If I hadn't heard how much better it gets in consecutive seasons, I wouldn't watch another episode.

First, what I do like about it:

I like seeing Windblade so prominently featured. I enjoyed her character in IDW, so it's nice to see her get some screen time.

I like the attention to Transformers lore

I like Soundwave's character design.

Some of the past story is interesting regarding the end days of the war.

Now, the things I don't like:

So far, this show has maybe my least favorite iterations of Bumblebee and especially of Grimlock.

Most of the other character, while not bad, are bland and one-dimensional. Windblade is a helpful Autobot. Optimus is a stoic leader. Wheeljack is a crazy inventor. The seekers hunt Autobots. There's no depth to any of them beyond a two-to-three word description.

I don't like the animation style (Although, I felt the same way about Animated at first, but now I love it)

Much of the voice acting feels... stale, I guess? I'm not sure how to describe it, but there's something missing.

This show, more than any other Transformers series I've watched, is geared strictly towards kids. Many Transformers series are family friendly and have elements that are for kids, but this one very much feels like a kids show. Which is absolutely fine, but I can tell that I'm not really the target audience (At this point at least)

Knowing small details about what's to come, I'm curious how I'll feel about later seasons. Things I know in advance:

Tarn is a main antagonist in the last season.

There's a titan named Croatoan(?)

Alchemist Prime runs a bar.

Cheetor and Sky-Byte are in the show.

There's a Megatron from another dimension.

Starscream becomes a Quintesson I think?

Keep going. The early episodes of season 1 are the weakest, but the first season is necessary to establish things that come back into play once the story kicks into high gear later on.

The first season also seemed to suffer from having to tie into the Bumblebee movie by having him be amnesiac and radio speak, for the sake of brand consistency by Hasbro. But once the second season comes, they drop all of that and drop the anthology style storytelling and go forth into more epic storytelling.

I would recommend either starting with season 2 or season 3, Season 2 picks up pretty good and features a great Megatron beatdown. Season 3 is gold. The season 4 movies are also really good.

Season 1 has good background, but things really pick up after that

Sabrblade wrote: The first season also seemed to suffer from having to tie into the Bumblebee movie by having him be amnesiac and radio speak, for the sake of brand consistency by Hasbro.

That makes a lot of sense. I was wondering why they bothered with the radio speak, given that they let him communicate normally with Windblade anyways when they're inside his mind.

#1 Signal Lancer fan wrote:

Sabrblade wrote: The first season also seemed to suffer from having to tie into the Bumblebee movie by having him be amnesiac and radio speak, for the sake of brand consistency by Hasbro.

That makes a lot of sense. I was wondering why they bothered with the radio speak, given that they let him communicate normally with Windblade anyways when they're inside his mind.

He could speak normally in his mind because "thinking" doesn't require vocal cords. The mental plane is different from the physical plane, so he's allowed to have a real voice inside his mind.

Although, despite the annoyance of his radio-speak in the physical world, I actually do have to give props to Bumblebee's voice actor, Jeremy Levy, who singlehandedly had to do and did every single variation of those radio clips all on his own. He was basically tasked with doing for Bumblebee what the late great Robin Williams had to do for Genie in Disney's Aladdin back in 1992. But the difference is that Williams was a natural impressionist who could do all of those celebrity voices for Genie back then with no trouble at all, whereas Levy had the even greater task of doing all those radio voices for Bumblebee, because he had to make them all sound distinct from each other, but without the notion of any of them being recognizable pop culture voices. That's harder than what Williams had to do for Genie since Williams was doing celebrity impressions that were recognizable, while Levy had to distinguish all of the radio voices from each other without any of them being necessarily based on any preexisting or recognizable voices. It was all down to him and him alone to make each radio voice sound unique and distinct. That takes a LOT of improvisational work to do.

I know some people really don't care for the voice cast, but I thoroughly enjoyed many of them.

Xavier Paul alone made Dead End one of my all time favorite Cons.

Jeremy Levy did so much for so many as well. He did great with Bee as Sabr mentioned, but he brought 1/3 of the Season 3 resistance to life, and gave Rack n' Ruin their first ever voice.

I think unlike the WFC trilogy, Jake Foushee did good as Prime, this kind of series played better to his strengths.

Also, I gotta say, Marc Thompson did a very enjoyable Megatron.

Watched episodes 6-10

The show is already starting to improve. I wouldn't say I enjoy it yet, but I'm starting to see the potential.

Some episode-specific thoughts:

Episode 6: Megatron is my hero: I liked the Megatron backstory here. While it was nothing new, the show did a good job summarizing it concisely. This characterization of Megatron is great. Also, I'm so glad they ditched the Australian-like accent from his first appearance, he sounds a lot more menacing now.

Episode 7: Cube. This is maybe my least favorite episode yet? I could not have cared less about the sport or Bumblebee's attempts to get in. The only thing that was somewhat interesting here was seeing Autobots and Decepticons interacting before the war.

Episode 8: Terminal Velocity. As someone who grew up with Transformers: Cybertron, I love how much of a staple Velocitron has become in Transformers lore. That said, other than that I didn't really enjoy this episode... until the end. The surprisingly dark ending really caught me off guard because of the tone of the show to this point. It might have been more impactful if I liked this version of Blurr at all, but it was still really shocking to me.

Episode 9: Shadowstriker. Between the last episode and this one, it feels like the tone of the show is starting to shift for the better. While it's still a stretch to say that I enjoyed it, this episode was a massive step in the right direction in terms of storytelling.

Episode 10: Maccadam's. This may be the first episode of the show that I can say I enjoyed. I loved the three cuts to the oil house at different points in the war, seeing the progression. I also liked Maccadam as a character. Another small thing I liked was seeing Shockwave and Wheeljack work together as dual mad scientists for a moment.

Overall series favorites/least favorites so far:

Favorite character: Megatron

Least favorite character: Tie between Bumblebee and Grimlock

Favorite episode Maccadam's (S1E10)

Least favorite episode: Cube (S1E7)

Most agree that Episode 10 is when Season 1 starts to get good, so it should be smoother sailing from here to the end of the season.

Season 2, meanwhile, kicks off with a bang right out of the gate.

Sabrblade wrote:Most agree that Episode 10 is when Season 1 starts to get good, so it should be smoother sailing from here to the end of the season.

Definitely smoother sailing in this next batch (for the most part at least)

I watched episodes 11-13. Overall this batch was better, as I enjoyed 2/3 episodes.

Episode 11, Sabotage: I enjoyed this one. Shockwave is always a fun antagonist. I really liked his plan this episode, but the way it concluded felt a bit lackluster (which is likely due to the short episode lengths). I also really don't care for Slipstream or the other seekers (at least the ones on Earth).

Episode 12, Teletraan-X This was probably my least favorite episode yet just because it didn't really have anything going for it. I don't like Slipstream or the seekers, I don't like Bumblebee, and I really don't like Teletraan-X. I don't mind Windblade, but I don't love her character in this show either.

Episode 13, Matrix of Leadership: While I still don't like Teletraan-X, so the present scenes were not the best, I did like the flashbacks for this episode. It was cool seeing Optimus get the Matrix from Alpha Trion. His Autobot symbol shield was cool. And one thing I really liked was that it showed Optimus realizing he made a mistake by sending the Allspark away. While that concept has been implied before, it's not a moment we've ever actually seen.

Favorites/least favorites:

Favorite Character: Megatron (Wheeljack and Shockwave could be contenders with more screen time)

Least Favorite Character: Teletraan-X (Grimlock could be a contender with more screen time)

Favorite Episode: Maccadam's (S1E10)

Least Favorite Episode: Teletraan-X (S1E12)

Teletraan-X is one of those quirky characters that are either hit or miss. I can see how one would find him annoying, but he never really bothered me since I found his quirks to be subtle enough. He definitely grew on me as the show went on, to the point where he became pleasantly delightful in the long run.

badpost, delplz

Wrong thread.

Yeah, I realised my mistake and moved it to a new thread