Transformers Animated: A Singular Continuity
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Oct 12, 2008 at 5:19pm CDT
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Continuing on from his post concerning the Concept Art for Prowl, Wyatt has posted that thanks to the involvement of the Transformers Animated production team across the various Transformers Animated Mediums, that Transformers Animated can be deemed to belong to the one Singular Universe.
We really consider Eric to be part of the show's creative team anyway. I'm sure it is hard for Hasbro to coordinate everything. Since Marty Isenberg actually wrote the Transformers Animated: The Arrival comic for IDW himself, we consider that part of the show continuity. I got to do some designs for the IDW comic as well. Marty also was involved with the story for the Nintendo DS game. Having the show creators involved in these types of projects really helps them feel more like they are all part of the same universe.
Also mentioned in his post are that Wyatt loved the concepts for Animated Oil Slick (created by Hasbro's Eric Siebenaler) right from the get go, and that there are:
absolutely TONS of G1 concepts that are practically begging to be in Animated. Maybe some of them will get to.
To read Wyatt's full blog entry and the responses to comments starting with Prowl's Concept Art, please click here.
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Comment by Darth Bombshell
Oct 12, 2008
I always felt that the stories in The Arrival were rejected storie ideas for the show. Now I know why.
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Comment by NuclearConvoy
Oct 12, 2008
I just really hope that Animated as a show goes on long enough that we get to see Oil Slick as an actual in-show character. He was great in the comic.
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Comment by Zek Patterson
Oct 12, 2008
Will we never see the comic bebut characters? Or perhaps if they do show up in the show, we get flashbacks. Something like that would be good.
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Isn't he confirmed for Season 3?
Comment by Darth Bombshell
Oct 12, 2008
NuclearConvoy wrote:I just really hope that Animated as a show goes on long enough that we get to see Oil Slick as an actual in-show character. He was great in the comic.
Isn't he confirmed for Season 3?
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I've heard varying things regarding him in S3. If he's confirmed I'll be extraordinarily happy.
Comment by NuclearConvoy
Oct 12, 2008
Darth Bombshell wrote:NuclearConvoy wrote:I just really hope that Animated as a show goes on long enough that we get to see Oil Slick as an actual in-show character. He was great in the comic.
Isn't he confirmed for Season 3?
I've heard varying things regarding him in S3. If he's confirmed I'll be extraordinarily happy.
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Comment by Nickolai
Oct 13, 2008
Will we ever see gestalts in Animated? That's as far towards the shark as I want to see it get. Power/Head/Breast/etc masters took it just a smidge too far for me in G1.
And I think we're all safe from the ABSOLUTE WORST IDEA to ever hit Transformers - Masterforce. The toys are great, sure, but the robots aren't sentient. They're just big vehicles essentially.
And I think we're all safe from the ABSOLUTE WORST IDEA to ever hit Transformers - Masterforce. The toys are great, sure, but the robots aren't sentient. They're just big vehicles essentially.
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Masterforce is an absolutely brilliant show, and certainly far from the worst idea in Transformers history.
Comment by NuclearConvoy
Oct 13, 2008
Nickolai wrote:Will we ever see gestalts in Animated? That's as far towards the shark as I want to see it get. Power/Head/Breast/etc masters took it just a smidge too far for me in G1.
And I think we're all safe from the ABSOLUTE WORST IDEA to ever hit Transformers - Masterforce. The toys are great, sure, but the robots aren't sentient. They're just big vehicles essentially.
Masterforce is an absolutely brilliant show, and certainly far from the worst idea in Transformers history.
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Comment by Auto Bot
Oct 13, 2008
I like the TFA continuity. As a story, it's solidly built. There's still some minor plot holes. But overall, the whole package fits in together in one piece.
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Look, there's Optimus Prime. No, wait, his name is Ginrai. Why? Because that's the name of the guy that pilots him.
He's not alive, no Matrix, no nothing. He's basically Daimos. That's the heart of darkness right there.
However awful some of the ideas were in Animated (Constructicons much) nothing holds a candle to Ginrai.
Comment by Nickolai
Oct 13, 2008
NuclearConvoy wrote:Nickolai wrote:Will we ever see gestalts in Animated? That's as far towards the shark as I want to see it get. Power/Head/Breast/etc masters took it just a smidge too far for me in G1.
And I think we're all safe from the ABSOLUTE WORST IDEA to ever hit Transformers - Masterforce. The toys are great, sure, but the robots aren't sentient. They're just big vehicles essentially.
Masterforce is an absolutely brilliant show, and certainly far from the worst idea in Transformers history.
Look, there's Optimus Prime. No, wait, his name is Ginrai. Why? Because that's the name of the guy that pilots him.
He's not alive, no Matrix, no nothing. He's basically Daimos. That's the heart of darkness right there.
However awful some of the ideas were in Animated (Constructicons much) nothing holds a candle to Ginrai.
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Comment by ponycorn
Oct 13, 2008
So comics and cartoon are meshed in the US... is the UK comic series to be considered seperate?
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Wait, you're insulting Daimos now too? Have you even watched Masterforce? Or are you just railing against an idea you read about and have never actually seen in execution?
Comment by NuclearConvoy
Oct 13, 2008
Nickolai wrote:NuclearConvoy wrote:Nickolai wrote:Will we ever see gestalts in Animated? That's as far towards the shark as I want to see it get. Power/Head/Breast/etc masters took it just a smidge too far for me in G1.
And I think we're all safe from the ABSOLUTE WORST IDEA to ever hit Transformers - Masterforce. The toys are great, sure, but the robots aren't sentient. They're just big vehicles essentially.
Masterforce is an absolutely brilliant show, and certainly far from the worst idea in Transformers history.
Look, there's Optimus Prime. No, wait, his name is Ginrai. Why? Because that's the name of the guy that pilots him.
He's not alive, no Matrix, no nothing. He's basically Daimos. That's the heart of darkness right there.
However awful some of the ideas were in Animated (Constructicons much) nothing holds a candle to Ginrai.
Wait, you're insulting Daimos now too? Have you even watched Masterforce? Or are you just railing against an idea you read about and have never actually seen in execution?
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Comment by Nickolai
Oct 13, 2008
I love Daimos and have nothing against it. Well, it's deriviative as all get out, but that's the genre.
I did watch some Masterforce. The episode where Doubleclouder fights King Poseidon, the one where Ginrai fights Overlord and then Black Zarak on the moon, where Ginrai fights King Poseidon. The execution is fine. It's the fact that I want all my TFs as intelligent sentient beings, not just the Seacons and a few others.
I did watch some Masterforce. The episode where Doubleclouder fights King Poseidon, the one where Ginrai fights Overlord and then Black Zarak on the moon, where Ginrai fights King Poseidon. The execution is fine. It's the fact that I want all my TFs as intelligent sentient beings, not just the Seacons and a few others.
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Funny you mention the Seacons, cuz only Turtler was sentient and all the limbs were drones...and there were armies of them. Seriously, start Masterforce from the beginning and go through to the end. It all works out and makes sense. And the humans work well in their roles. And the Pretenders are actually very well executed, IMO.
Comment by NuclearConvoy
Oct 13, 2008
Nickolai wrote:I love Daimos and have nothing against it. Well, it's deriviative as all get out, but that's the genre.
I did watch some Masterforce. The episode where Doubleclouder fights King Poseidon, the one where Ginrai fights Overlord and then Black Zarak on the moon, where Ginrai fights King Poseidon. The execution is fine. It's the fact that I want all my TFs as intelligent sentient beings, not just the Seacons and a few others.
Funny you mention the Seacons, cuz only Turtler was sentient and all the limbs were drones...and there were armies of them. Seriously, start Masterforce from the beginning and go through to the end. It all works out and makes sense. And the humans work well in their roles. And the Pretenders are actually very well executed, IMO.
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The only good thing about Masterforce is when the end credits come up because then you know the show is done! Masterforce is hot garbage!
Comment by robots1
Oct 14, 2008
i_amtrunks wrote:Lead Designer for the Transformers Animated Series Derrick Wyatt has continued replying to posts on his blog A Delightful Tedium.
Continuing on from his post concerning the Concept Art for Prowl, Wyatt has posted that thanks to the involvement of the Transformers Animated production team across the various Transformers Animated Mediums, that Transformers Animated can be deemed to belong to the one Singular Universe.
We really consider Eric to be part of the show's creative team anyway. I'm sure it is hard for Hasbro to coordinate everything. Since Marty Isenberg actually wrote the Transformers Animated: The Arrival comic for IDW himself, we consider that part of the show continuity. I got to do some designs for the IDW comic as well. Marty also was involved with the story for the Nintendo DS game. Having the show creators involved in these types of projects really helps them feel more like they are all part of the same universe.
Also mentioned in his post are that Wyatt loved the concepts for Animated Oil Slick (created by Hasbro's Eric Siebenaler) right from the get go, and that there are:
absolutely TONS of G1 concepts that are practically begging to be in Animated. Maybe some of them will get to.
To read Wyatt's full blog entry and the responses to comments starting with Prowl's Concept Art, please click here.
The only good thing about Masterforce is when the end credits come up because then you know the show is done! Masterforce is hot garbage!
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Comment by Auto Bot
Oct 14, 2008
I've just seen one episode of Masterforce. (Others still downloading.) I can say, this is really weird. Prime needs pilots. And yet, when he talks, his mouthpiece moves. I've seen only Ep 27, the only one finished downloading so far.
So what's the deal with Masterforce?
So what's the deal with Masterforce?
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First off, it's not Prime. Second, it's not piloted so much as merged with. Seriously, start from the beginning.
Comment by NuclearConvoy
Oct 14, 2008
Auto Bot wrote:I've just seen one episode of Masterforce. (Others still downloading.) I can say, this is really weird. Prime needs pilots. And yet, when he talks, his mouthpiece moves. I've seen only Ep 27, the only one finished downloading so far.
So what's the deal with Masterforce?
First off, it's not Prime. Second, it's not piloted so much as merged with. Seriously, start from the beginning.
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Comment by Auto Bot
Oct 15, 2008
It's Ginrai. Some sort of Japanese name. But he looks like Prime. So the kids pilot the armour only?
Anyway, i'll have to wait for the download of Ep 1.
Anyway, i'll have to wait for the download of Ep 1.
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Comment by Chris McFeely
Oct 16, 2008
They don't "pilot" the Transformers - they ARE the Transformers. They bond entirely with the robot bodies. Human and Transtector (the name for the robot bodies) are as ONE. The principle is exactly the same as the Japanese version of Headmasters (small robot controls larger Transtector), it just so happens that it's a human doing it. They're still alive, and they're still Transformers.
