Transformers Legacy Velocitron Line Now In Symths Toys

ZeroWolf wrote:They also say that so far the only stock Symths seem to have received is Override, Voyager Class Hauler and Deluxe Class Cosmos.

Are there solid cases of just Cosmos, then? That would be welcome news!

AcademyofDrX wrote:

Emerje wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:[... but we can agree Hasbro owns the toy designs and molds, and Paramount owns the movie itself and all assets thereof, including character designs....

I don't agree with that, but we can agree to disagree. It's complicated, it's governed by legal agreements none of us will ever see, and we can only speculate on the impacts like if these considerations factor into product decisions like non-movie movie characters.

I have a feeling it will be a fun discussion in a different time and place.

Probably, but while we're talking about it I just want to point out that we have proof that modern figures are still made under Paramount's license. Look no further than the legal information on Crossover Ultimate X-Spanse.

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As heavily altered as that figure is it's still a SS Jetfire retool and still requires a Dreamworks copyright. Of course it also has Disney and Marvel copyrights and the very obvious Lockheed Martin one. And people wondered why that figure was so expensive.

william-james88 wrote:The velocitron line has not been spotted yet in US walmarts

I'm more surprised they haven't shown up in Asia yet.

Emerje

I don't think that's saying what I think you're saying. DreamWorks is the licensee for Lockheed Martin, which is the licensor. All that text says is that the Transformers movie producers have rights to use the Blackbird, it doesn't say anything about Hasbro's licensing relationship with DreamWorks. I mean, presumably someone's getting paid, but who knows how.

I feel like Hasbro would have just bypassed Dreamworks all together and gotten the license straight from Lockheed Martin in that case. The fact that they still needed to keep legal info on the box for Dreamworks tells me they have some say in the use of the figures and their designs even when they're being used in another company's toy. I do take back what I said earlier about Paramount, though. Looking at some Studio Series boxes and brushing up on movie production info I realized a made a mistake in saying Paramount had right to the figures. Paramount is just the distributor for the films and nothing more. Dreamworks produced the first movies and they appear to have kept the design rights for those films (though Hasbro was on the production team, but not as a studio), but the rest of the movies were primarily produced by Hasbro Films/Allspark Pictures/Entertainment One, all (obviously) owned by Hasbro. So I mostly take back what I said about Hasbro not being able to use movie designs and characters outside of movie lines except for the first two movies, that was outdated information. And thinking about it, we already have a movie design that's crossed that boundary fully and without the name needing to be change for legal reasons like my previous Megatron example, Authentics Barricade.



Now that's a new mold I'd like to see on Velocitron (to pull things back on topic...).

Emerje

Stumbling across a Cosmos figure in stores seems about the only hope for getting one. They sold out almost instantly on Pulse, and nobody else has them either. They may have underestimated the demand on this one...

DeathReviews wrote:Stumbling across a Cosmos figure in stores seems about the only hope for getting one. They sold out almost instantly on Pulse, and nobody else has them either. They may have underestimated the demand on this one...

That's how I got most of my TR and ER figures, with the exception of the Coneheads. I just happened to find them at the Wal-Mart I worked at, and usually they were the only copies, so I managed to snag them. I don't work there anymore, so hopefully I'll get lucky and find him either at Target or Wal-Mart. I've been luckier with Legacy and SS stuff when it comes to preorders thanks to Amazon and Pulse, but Cosmos was definitely a hot item for sure.

Can we expect the rest of the Minibots in the now-apparent Legacy trilogy? We still have at least 9 to go:

Beachcomber
Seaspray
Powerglide
Windcharger
Brawn
Gears
Outback
Tailgate
Swerve

I'm probably forgetting a few as well. I think Powerglide is the most likely while Outback the least likely.

Wolfman Jake wrote:In a Q&A from SDCC, we learned that there are plans to eventually get to the rest of the Minibots. We’re probably just going to have to be patient, though, just like with the SS86 Dinobots and Legacy Insecticons. It’s going to take a few years to get everyone done.

I hope Powerglide is next, if not Gears/Swerve. PotP Beachcomber is good enough for now, as are Brawn/Outback and Windcharger/Tailgate, even if the scale of those T30/Prime Wars figures is a little off now.

Yes, I assume they'll be LESS motivated to do figures like Brawn, Beachcomber, Seaspray and other minis, just because they did them for earlier (but not too distant) lines like PotP and TR. TR Seaspray particularly was excellent as a Legends size figure.

Ever since I preordered that green Grapple guy and Cosmos, Walmart.ca keep sending me that EXACT SAME email EVERY SINGLE DAYS.

Like, why?

Lore Keeper wrote:Stores in the UK are getting solid cases of Cosmos while he's practically a unicorn in the US. Awesome...

And he's being left on the shelves by those who have the previous cosmos... Well at least in my case.

Hopefully with the amount of people that have the previous cosmos that don't want this version should make it easier to get gor those that do.


Wouldn't be surprised if smyths doesnt stock black Scourge if they are already reducing legacy g2 prime.

blackeyedprime wrote:

Lore Keeper wrote:Stores in the UK are getting solid cases of Cosmos while he's practically a unicorn in the US. Awesome...

And he's being left on the shelves by those who have the previous cosmos... Well at least in my case.

Hopefully with the amount of people that have the previous cosmos that don't want this version should make it easier to get gor those that do.


Wouldn't be surprised if smyths doesnt stock black Scourge if they are already reducing legacy g2 prime.

Smyths will be stocking Scourge, we've just not got him yet. Generally Transformers start to be discounted within 3 months of release in order to clear space for the next wave of stock as stores just don't have the space to have multiple waves still on shelves

ZeroWolf wrote:

CyclonusG1 wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:

Lore Keeper wrote:Stores in the UK are getting solid cases of Cosmos while he's practically a unicorn in the US. Awesome...

And he's being left on the shelves by those who have the previous cosmos... Well at least in my case.

Hopefully with the amount of people that have the previous cosmos that don't want this version should make it easier to get gor those that do.


Wouldn't be surprised if smyths doesnt stock black Scourge if they are already reducing legacy g2 prime.

Smyths will be stocking Scourge, we've just not got him yet. Generally Transformers start to be discounted within 3 months of release in order to clear space for the next wave of stock as stores just don't have the space to have multiple waves still on shelves

What's the liklihood of the rest of the line coming to symths?

We have internal listings for the entire line so far so unless we have a siege wave 2 situation (which never showed up at all), then we should get the entire lot

Lore Keeper wrote:Stores in the UK are getting solid cases of Cosmos while he's practically a unicorn in the US. Awesome...

The Velocitron figures aren’t even out yet at U.S. Walmarts. It’s way too early to panic.