Transformers: Masterpiece MP-49 Black Convoy Listed

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Thanks to eagle-eyed Seibertronian Bucky, we have some very interesting news to report. As can be gathered by the title of this story, there has been a listing created for the previously unannounced MP-49, which site sponsor BBTS has as Black Convoy! It's fairly safe to assume that this figure will be a "Nemesis Prime" recolor of MP-44 (aka Convoy/Optimus Prime 3.0) in his traditional black, teal, and red colors. The previous Black Convoy Masterpiece figure is shown below.

What do you all think of this out-of-nowhere listing? Will it turn out to be genuine? Are you excited about this potential figure? Let us know below, and stay tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest in Transformers news!

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Re: Transformers: Masterpiece MP-49 Black Convoy Listed (2045448)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on November 26th, 2019 @ 1:53pm CST

I'm sceptical about it, because it has a real number. The Prime redeco/Nemesis MP is typically MP-10B, for example. So this one would naturally be MP-44B, not its own number.

Re: Transformers: Masterpiece MP-49 Black Convoy Listed (2045449)
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 26th, 2019 @ 1:58pm CST

Unless they gave it its own number so that something else could have the number 50 slot

Re: Transformers: Masterpiece MP-49 Black Convoy Listed (2045452)
Posted by angtre on November 26th, 2019 @ 2:23pm CST

Maybe it'll be a different mold of some sort?

A RiD Scourge-inspired one perhaps, maybe with a different trailer?

Re: Transformers: Masterpiece MP-49 Black Convoy Listed (2045453)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 26th, 2019 @ 2:23pm CST

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I'm sceptical about it, because it has a real number. The Prime redeco/Nemesis MP is typically MP-10B, for example. So this one would naturally be MP-44B, not its own number.

I'd normally agree, but MP-38 kinda threw any and all rationalization for the ID number system out the window.

Re: Transformers: Masterpiece MP-49 Black Convoy Listed (2045455)
Posted by Ironhidensh on November 26th, 2019 @ 3:43pm CST

I'd be almost willing to bet money its just a repaint. The number system means absolute jack shit to Takara, so never assign any meaning to it.

On the plus side, for those of you (justifiably) turned off by the price, maybe this one will not come with a trailer and all the accessories, and thus be a $100 or so cheaper?

Re: Transformers: Masterpiece MP-49 Black Convoy Listed (2045459)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on November 26th, 2019 @ 5:21pm CST

Ironhidensh wrote:I'd be almost willing to bet money its just a repaint. The number system means absolute jack **** to Takara, so never assign any meaning to it.

On the plus side, for those of you (justifiably) turned off by the price, maybe this one will not come with a trailer and all the accessories, and thus be a $100 or so cheaper?

I would like a MP-44 Nemesis Prime that have NO trailer nor extra bits appart the axe and the gun. Then make it 50% cheaper and you get a sale.
However, maybe Takara will troll us by making him a full set that is DOUBLE the normal price because it will be a something-or-other exclusive.

Re: Transformers: Masterpiece MP-49 Black Convoy Listed (2045462)
Posted by Wireless_Phantom on November 26th, 2019 @ 5:35pm CST

-Kanrabat- wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:I'd be almost willing to bet money its just a repaint. The number system means absolute jack **** to Takara, so never assign any meaning to it.

On the plus side, for those of you (justifiably) turned off by the price, maybe this one will not come with a trailer and all the accessories, and thus be a $100 or so cheaper?

I would like a MP-44 Nemesis Prime that have NO trailer nor extra bits appart the axe and the gun. Then make it 50% cheaper and you get a sale.
However, maybe Takara will troll us by making him a full set that is DOUBLE the normal price because it will be a something-or-other exclusive.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't MP10B the same price as MP10 without the trailer and stuff?

Re: Transformers: Masterpiece MP-49 Black Convoy Listed (2045463)
Posted by Deathsaurus1 on November 26th, 2019 @ 5:45pm CST

Speculating about this figure having toy inspired details vs no-44’s took aesthetics

Re: Transformers: Masterpiece MP-49 Black Convoy Listed (2045466)
Posted by Mindmaster on November 26th, 2019 @ 6:51pm CST

Nice, but it’s most likely gunna be hella expensive even with half the gear gone though...

Re: Transformers: Masterpiece MP-49 Black Convoy Listed (2045468)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 26th, 2019 @ 7:56pm CST

what if, hear me out, what if it isn't an Optimus, but rather a shadow Lio Convoy?

Re: Transformers: Masterpiece MP-49 Black Convoy Listed (2045481)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on November 26th, 2019 @ 8:40pm CST

Wireless_Phantom wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't MP10B the same price as MP10 without the trailer and stuff?

Such shenanigans wouldn't surprise me.

Re: Transformers: Masterpiece MP-49 Black Convoy Listed (2045482)
Posted by Mindmaster on November 26th, 2019 @ 8:49pm CST

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:what if, hear me out, what if it isn't an Optimus, but rather a shadow Lio Convoy?

Wouldn’t it be called Galvaconvoy and not Black Convoy? Or is there a Nemesis themed Lio Convoy I’m not aware of?

Re: Transformers: Masterpiece MP-49 Black Convoy Listed (2045483)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 26th, 2019 @ 8:55pm CST

Mindmaster wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:what if, hear me out, what if it isn't an Optimus, but rather a shadow Lio Convoy?

Wouldn’t it be called Galvaconvoy and not Black Convoy? Or is there a Nemesis themed Lio Convoy I’m not aware of?

There was a shadow fully black Lio convoy in the show, he was an actual character too, all the maximals had an episode where dark dopplegangers of them were made and existed

Re: Transformers: Masterpiece MP-49 Black Convoy Listed (2045484)
Posted by Mindmaster on November 26th, 2019 @ 8:57pm CST

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:what if, hear me out, what if it isn't an Optimus, but rather a shadow Lio Convoy?

Wouldn’t it be called Galvaconvoy and not Black Convoy? Or is there a Nemesis themed Lio Convoy I’m not aware of?

There was a shadow fully black Lio convoy in the show, he was an actual character too, all the maximals had an episode where dark dopplegangers of them were made and existed

Figured as much, anything Japanese Beast Wars is far beyond my knowledge apart from the Convoys. #-o

Re: Transformers: Masterpiece MP-49 Black Convoy Listed (2045486)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 26th, 2019 @ 9:43pm CST

Mindmaster wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:what if, hear me out, what if it isn't an Optimus, but rather a shadow Lio Convoy?

Wouldn’t it be called Galvaconvoy and not Black Convoy? Or is there a Nemesis themed Lio Convoy I’m not aware of?

There was a shadow fully black Lio convoy in the show, he was an actual character too, all the maximals had an episode where dark dopplegangers of them were made and existed

Figured as much, anything Japanese Beast Wars is far beyond my knowledge apart from the Convoys.

His name was "Copy Convoy", so this wouldn't be that.

Re: Transformers: Masterpiece MP-49 Black Convoy Listed (2045488)
Posted by ScottyP on November 26th, 2019 @ 9:46pm CST

Wireless_Phantom wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't MP10B the same price as MP10 without the trailer and stuff?

No, it just got that way on the secondary market before being reissued. MP-10B was ~140, MP-10 with trailer and all that was ~200-220 back then. Later reissues of both were some % less expensive which definitely doesn't help the recollection of how much they were.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I'm sceptical about it, because it has a real number. The Prime redeco/Nemesis MP is typically MP-10B, for example. So this one would naturally be MP-44B, not its own number.

Attempting to figure out "rules" or guidelines for MP numbering schemes is the path to madness :michaelbay:

Re: Transformers: Masterpiece MP-49 Black Convoy Listed (2045500)
Posted by wilcosu35 on November 26th, 2019 @ 11:01pm CST

So the next one is a black MP-44? Cool for those who want it. I'll be keeping my money in my pocket.

Re: Transformers: Masterpiece MP-49 Black Convoy Listed (2045528)
Posted by First-Aid on November 27th, 2019 @ 12:23pm CST

If I'm not mistaken, Convoy/Optimus Prime variants, repaints, remolds, and reissues make up approximately 94.225% of the Masterpiece line... >:oP

Enough Primes already. :BOOM:

Re: Transformers: Masterpiece MP-49 Black Convoy Listed (2045532)
Posted by william-james88 on November 27th, 2019 @ 2:07pm CST

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I'm sceptical about it, because it has a real number. The Prime redeco/Nemesis MP is typically MP-10B, for example. So this one would naturally be MP-44B, not its own number.

I was sure we had given up on the numbers making sense. They don't. Since Takara clearly doesn't care about the numbers, we shouldn't either.

Also, in my usual self I will say this, anyone expecting more than a standard redeco will be dissapointed.

Re: Transformers: Masterpiece MP-49 Black Convoy Listed (2045534)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on November 27th, 2019 @ 2:28pm CST

Yet are the Nemesis redecos really so popular to warrant their own official number? How well are HasTak expecting this to sell alongside the other original figures of the line, given MP-44 was overpriced to begin with??

Re: Transformers: Masterpiece MP-49 Black Convoy Listed (2045535)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on November 27th, 2019 @ 3:34pm CST

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Yet are the Nemesis redecos really so popular to warrant their own official number? How well are HasTak expecting this to sell alongside the other original figures of the line, given MP-44 was overpriced to begin with??

Again, the number itself has no real significance. At best it denotes either retooling or just straight redeco with new accessories, like these guys:

MP-31 Delta Magnus
MP-37 Artfire
MP-38 Convoy (Beast Wars) Legendary Supreme Commander Ver. (aka the toy-accurate one)
MP-40 Targetmaster Hot Rodimus

Re: Transformers: Masterpiece MP-49 Black Convoy Listed (2045538)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on November 27th, 2019 @ 3:46pm CST

The number in itself, unlike the others mentioned, bears precedent. Every single Nemesis Prime in the MP line to date has been a 'B' listing of a corresponding Prime. All three of them:

2009/10

2013

2017

What makes this one so special, over its predecessors? Aside from HasTak trying to fleece the fanbase with the same extortionate mold: but in black

Re: Transformers: Masterpiece MP-49 Black Convoy Listed (2045540)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 27th, 2019 @ 4:15pm CST

The MP figures that get their own numbers are mass retail figures. Therefore, this Black Convoy will most likely be a mass retail figure.

Re: Transformers: Masterpiece MP-49 Black Convoy Listed (2045545)
Posted by william-james88 on November 27th, 2019 @ 6:48pm CST

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:What makes this one so special, over its predecessors?

Probably, it's non exclusive status.

Re: Transformers: Masterpiece MP-49 Black Convoy Listed (2045557)
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 28th, 2019 @ 1:07am CST

So then, this could be the first mass retail Nemesis Prime then?

Re: Transformers: Masterpiece MP-49 Black Convoy Listed (2045568)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 28th, 2019 @ 9:05am CST

ZeroWolf wrote:So then, this could be the first mass retail Nemesis Prime then?

Armada Nemesis Prime was both a mass retail figure and the first Nemesis Prime ever.

Re: Transformers: Masterpiece MP-49 Black Convoy Listed (2045570)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on November 28th, 2019 @ 9:54am CST

This is likely going to be the First MP Nemesis Prime for mass retail and conveniently enough, the most expensive one.

Other than Scourge in Car Robots, is Nemesis IE Optimus Prime in a black deco, ever an actual character in ongoing fiction? I'd have thought this is kind of a hard sell, to general consumers, otherwise. Given his obviously high price point, without some kind of corresponding media, I can see this MP becoming a shelfwarmer.

Re: Transformers: Masterpiece MP-49 Black Convoy Listed (2045574)
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 28th, 2019 @ 11:27am CST

Sabrblade wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:So then, this could be the first mass retail Nemesis Prime then?
Armada Nemesis Prime was both a mass retail figure and the first Nemesis Prime ever.

I meant to say first mass retail MP release #-o

Re: Transformers: Masterpiece MP-49 Black Convoy Listed (2045579)
Posted by william-james88 on November 28th, 2019 @ 1:59pm CST

Just curious, since Scourge is characterized as a black redeco of Optimus with teal highlights and red tinted windows, and Nemesis prime is characterized as a black redeco of Optimus with teal highlights and red tinted windows, what distinguishes the decos from one another as the basis for a toy?

Re: Transformers: Masterpiece MP-49 Black Convoy Listed (2045580)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 28th, 2019 @ 2:12pm CST

william-james88 wrote:Just curious, since Scourge is characterized as a black redeco of Optimus with teal highlights and red tinted windows, and Nemesis prime is characterized as a black redeco of Optimus with teal highlights and red tinted windows, what distinguishes the decos from one another as the basis for a toy?

I think the only reason Scourge stands out as a unique character with people is a combination of two factors: A) He was given his own unique name before the standard "Nemesis Prime" name came about, and B) he's the only version of the concept that exists as a fully fleshed out character, making people see him in a different light.

There may also be a third factor, in that many Nemesis Primes/Black Convoys are associated with Unicron, while Scourge has never been (though, Grand Scourge is, but he's a whole different confusing discussion).

In all honesty, if the name "Nemesis Prime" had existed at the time that Car Robots was being turned into Robots in Disguise, Scourge very likely would have been named "Nemesis Prime" instead, with the only reason that he wasn't being that the name simply didn't yet exist until it was conceived two years later during Armada.

Nowadays, "Black Convoy" and "Nemesis Prime" are equivalents of one another, and RiD 2001 Scourge was the first "Black Convoy". But since Scourge left such an impression with his fans, it might feel like a disservice to his legacy to retroactively rename him as just another Nemesis Prime.

Though, the "evil black and teal Optimus redeco" concept first originated with Copy Convoy in Beast Wars Second, while the "evil black Optimus redeco" in general all started with BotCon 1996 Onyx Primal (but he got retconned into being a Maximal by 1998, with a new online profile mentioning his defection from the Predacons to the Maximals after a falling out he had with the former).

Re: Transformers: Masterpiece MP-49 Black Convoy Listed (2045838)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 2nd, 2019 @ 8:15pm CST

Here's a thought: what if they made Black convoy MP-49 so Raiden could be MP-50?

Re: Transformers: Masterpiece MP-49 Black Convoy Listed (2045848)
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on December 2nd, 2019 @ 8:49pm CST

I mean maybe, but then why didn’t they make Prime v3 MP-45?

I’m in the camp that the numbers are arbitrary.

Re: Transformers: Masterpiece MP-49 Black Convoy Listed (2045849)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 2nd, 2019 @ 8:51pm CST

Nemesis Maximo wrote:I mean maybe, but then why didn’t they make Prime v3 MP-45?

I’m in the camp that the numbers are arbitrary.

oh they usually are, but what if, in this one instance, it was on purpose?

Re: Transformers: Masterpiece MP-49 Black Convoy Listed (2045861)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 2nd, 2019 @ 10:55pm CST

Nemesis Maximo wrote:I mean maybe, but then why didn’t they make Prime v3 MP-45?

So that he could be released before Bumblebee, of course. We can't have Bee's first remake coming before Prime's second remake. :o)

Re: Transformers: Masterpiece MP-49 Black Convoy Listed (2045882)
Posted by ZeroWolf on December 3rd, 2019 @ 7:01am CST

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Here's a thought: what if they made Black convoy MP-49 so Raiden could be MP-50?

I theorised this last week, but that was before I knew about Raiden making a comeback :lol:

While I do believe the numbers to be ultimately meaningless outside of internal value (I.e. Which order they're supposed to be working on them) they may have made an exception for 50

Re: Transformers: Masterpiece MP-49 Black Convoy Listed (2046017)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 4th, 2019 @ 11:33am CST

delete

Re: Transformers: Masterpiece MP-49 Black Convoy Listed (2049140)
Posted by Ironhidensh on January 12th, 2020 @ 7:02pm CST

So, we haven’t had much news lately other than a hint at Rattrap, and train guy. Do you think that’s it next year? The six trainbots and maybe Ratrap? I think it’s gonna be a very bad year for MPs. Well, at least for me. Other than Railracer, I have zero interest in trainbots.

Re: Transformers: Masterpiece MP-49 Black Convoy Listed (2049141)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 12th, 2020 @ 7:12pm CST

Ironhidensh wrote:So, we haven’t had much news lately other than a hint at Rattrap, and train guy. Do you think that’s it next year? The six trainbots and maybe Ratrap? I think it’s gonna be a very bad year for MPs. Well, at least for me. Other than Railracer, I have zero interest in trainbots.

I'm expecting to see MPM Ratchet and Starscream at Toy Fair, but other than the Trainbots and maybe Rattrap, I expect what I just said to be this years lineup

Re: Transformers: Masterpiece MP-49 Black Convoy Listed (2049144)
Posted by william-james88 on January 12th, 2020 @ 7:27pm CST

Ironhidensh wrote:So, we haven’t had much news lately other than a hint at Rattrap, and train guy. Do you think that’s it next year? The six trainbots and maybe Ratrap? I think it’s gonna be a very bad year for MPs. Well, at least for me. Other than Railracer, I have zero interest in trainbots.

That is technically 6 G1 MPs and a Beast Wars mp plus a fee MPMs. Better than last year by comparison as far as G1 is concerned. I'm sure there will be a few more surprises though.

Re: Transformers: Masterpiece MP-49 Black Convoy Listed (2049148)
Posted by Ironhidensh on January 12th, 2020 @ 8:17pm CST

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:So, we haven’t had much news lately other than a hint at Rattrap, and train guy. Do you think that’s it next year? The six trainbots and maybe Ratrap? I think it’s gonna be a very bad year for MPs. Well, at least for me. Other than Railracer, I have zero interest in trainbots.

I'm expecting to see MPM Ratchet and Starscream at Toy Fair, but other than the Trainbots and maybe Rattrap, I expect what I just said to be this years lineup

See, I dunno. There has been one hell of a long time since Jazz and Megatron were announced. Are we shire the line isn’t nixed? All the MPM figures have hit clearance, well, Jazz is a bit new.

I guess it looks really bleak to me because of Raider. I guess I’m just starved for news I want to hear, you know?

Re: Transformers: Masterpiece MP-49 Black Convoy Listed (2049149)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 12th, 2020 @ 8:22pm CST

Ironhidensh wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:So, we haven’t had much news lately other than a hint at Rattrap, and train guy. Do you think that’s it next year? The six trainbots and maybe Ratrap? I think it’s gonna be a very bad year for MPs. Well, at least for me. Other than Railracer, I have zero interest in trainbots.

I'm expecting to see MPM Ratchet and Starscream at Toy Fair, but other than the Trainbots and maybe Rattrap, I expect what I just said to be this years lineup

See, I dunno. There has been one hell of a long time since Jazz and Megatron were announced. Are we shire the line isn’t nixed? All the MPM figures have hit clearance, well, Jazz is a bit new.

I guess it looks really bleak to me because of Raider. I guess I’m just starved for news I want to hear, you know?

We've had 4 or 6 month old rumors for the MPMs, and I highly doubt they would cut that line when there is only 1 single Movie 1 Autobot left.

Thinking about it, we might also see a "plus" repaint or something to that extent.

The reveals lately have been very quiet, I suspect they are holding reveals closer to release dates. we still have nothing beyond the deluxes for the next SS wave as individual images, we only have wave 1 of Earthrise, due at the same time as the Offroad Bee SS wave, and we don't have anything fot the next Cyberverse deluxe wave to finish Maccadam.

long story short, I think they have been working reveals back to only a few months before release for all lines

Re: Transformers: Masterpiece MP-49 Black Convoy Listed (2049167)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 13th, 2020 @ 4:36am CST

What I'm really looking forward to is MPM Starscream.
Wake me up when it's finally announced with prototype pictures.

Re: Transformers: Masterpiece MP-49 Black Convoy Listed (2049213)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 13th, 2020 @ 6:41pm CST

-Kanrabat- wrote:What I'm really looking forward to is MPM Starscream.
Wake me up when it's finally announced with prototype pictures.

I'm telling you, I will be greatly surprised if he and Ratchet are not revealed in the next 2 months

Re: Transformers: Masterpiece MP-49 Black Convoy Listed (2049218)
Posted by TulioDude on January 13th, 2020 @ 7:31pm CST

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:What I'm really looking forward to is MPM Starscream.
Wake me up when it's finally announced with prototype pictures.

I'm telling you, I will be greatly surprised if he and Ratchet are not revealed in the next 2 months

I love the Starscream movie design,and would love to see the level engineering.Imagine his jet boosters!

It would great next to an Armada Starscream.

Day 13 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.

Re: Transformers: Masterpiece MP-49 Black Convoy Listed (2049219)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on January 13th, 2020 @ 7:37pm CST

I'd be totally shocked, surprised, and dumbfounded if we don't get a MP+ of Hound.

Re: Transformers: Masterpiece MP-49 Black Convoy Listed (2049226)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 13th, 2020 @ 8:07pm CST

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I'd be totally shocked, surprised, and dumbfounded if we don't get a MP+ of Hound.

Well, the heavily modified oversized KO of AoE Hound by Weijiang is pretty damn close to a proper MPM. I have him and he's amazing.
Still, I'm looking forward a proper official take by HasTak.

Also, MPM Grimlock. With how incredible the SS leader is, I wonder how HasTak will tackle it? Also, the size and the price. Because a MPM Grimlock that is properly in scale so that MPM AoE Optimus can ride him (oh, and do him too) as in the picture below would be insane.

Prime 1 Studios made the statue:

Sizes of the statue(s): https://www.toypanic.com/toy.aspx?p=3904

The Prime 1 statue seem to be relatively MPM sized and it cost 1900$US when it came out. Now we would need THAT but TRANSFORMABLE.
:-?

Only Haslab could tackle this duo I guess.

Re: Transformers: Masterpiece MP-49 Black Convoy Listed (2049228)
Posted by TulioDude on January 13th, 2020 @ 8:15pm CST

-Kanrabat- wrote:
Also, MPM Grimlock. With how incredible the SS leader is, I wonder how HasTak will tackle it? Also, the size and the price. Because a MPM Grimlock that is properly in scale so that MPM AoE Optimus can ride him (oh, and do him too) as in the picture below would be insane.

The Prime 1 statue seem to be relatively MPM sized and it cost 1900$US when it came out. Now we would need THAT but TRANSFORMABLE.
Only Haslab could tackle this duo I guess.

The first Masterpiece Titan class

Re: Transformers: Masterpiece MP-49 Black Convoy Listed (2049229)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 13th, 2020 @ 8:20pm CST

TulioDude wrote:
The first Masterpiece Titan class

No.

It would be the same size as Haslab Unicron at the very least.

Meaning Divorce Class as (Burn?) said.

Re: Transformers: Masterpiece MP-49 Black Convoy Listed (2049237)
Posted by TulioDude on January 13th, 2020 @ 10:02pm CST

-Kanrabat- wrote:
TulioDude wrote:
The first Masterpiece Titan class

No.

Re: Transformers: Masterpiece MP-49 Black Convoy Listed (2049239)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 13th, 2020 @ 10:38pm CST

-Kanrabat- wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I'd be totally shocked, surprised, and dumbfounded if we don't get a MP+ of Hound.

Well, the heavily modified oversized KO of AoE Hound by Weijiang is pretty damn close to a proper MPM. I have him and he's amazing.
Still, I'm looking forward a proper official take by HasTak.

He meant the Hound that just came out.

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