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Video Review and In Hand Images for Transformers Generations Cyber Commander 11 inch Bumblebee
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Apr 26, 2015 at 10:09pm CDT
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While these toys are currently available at Brazillian retail (both brick and mortar and online), there is still no current indication that these will be released elsewhere, aside from listings on Hasbro's main website in American dollars.
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Comment by Seibertron
Apr 26, 2015
Are these up on eBay or somewhere I can purchase them yet so that I can do proper galleries of these for Seibertron.com?
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Comment by MaverickPrime
Apr 26, 2015
Just like he said, these are perfect for little kids, well, almost because like he also said, the lack of knees is inexcusable, they are big enough so the integrity and stability wouldn't be an issue, it's just a corner cut which sadly brings them down quite a bit, the designs are actuall very good, I love the headsculpt on Prime! But no knees at that size is a deal breaker.
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Speculating some sites will sell these.
Disappointed that Eleven Bumblebee has no bending knees.
Plan to buyer Starscream, Megatron , Eleven Optimus and Eleven Bumblebee.
Comment by Tsutsukakushi
Apr 26, 2015
Seibertron wrote:Are these up on eBay or somewhere I can purchase them yet so that I can do proper galleries of these for Seibertron.com?
Speculating some sites will sell these.
Disappointed that Eleven Bumblebee has no bending knees.
Plan to buyer Starscream, Megatron , Eleven Optimus and Eleven Bumblebee.
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Comment by MartianSpyGirl1996
Apr 26, 2015
This is insulting towards children.
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Comment by Ultra Markus
Apr 26, 2015
i think they look good, robots look good, vehicles look good, simple to change and their big
not crazy about no knees though but i can overlook that, they make up for being not stupid looking
like some of the 1 step or 3 step or flip n change. cyber series looks like a winner
not crazy about no knees though but i can overlook that, they make up for being not stupid looking
like some of the 1 step or 3 step or flip n change. cyber series looks like a winner
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Comment by Black Bumblebee
Apr 27, 2015
I can see these doing well with little kids, say around 5 or 6. Nothing too complex, nice size, and looks sturdy enough that they can drop it and bash it around a bit without 40 small parts popping out of ball sockets.
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I've tried doing every conceivable search possible for these. I can't find them. FYI there is no eBay Brazil either.
Comment by chuckdawg1999
Apr 27, 2015
Seibertron wrote:Are these up on eBay or somewhere I can purchase them yet so that I can do proper galleries of these for Seibertron.com?
I've tried doing every conceivable search possible for these. I can't find them. FYI there is no eBay Brazil either.
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I still think that if this is meant as the kiddie line, the toys would bear more of a resemblance to what the kids would have seen recently, rather than G1, which matters more to the grown-ups. Since they'd have to pay licensing fees for the movie bots, that'd probably mean toys loosely based on the various offshoots of Alligned continuity. But I'm not a marketing expert, so what do I know?
Comment by Zeedust
Apr 27, 2015
Black Bumblebee wrote:I can see these doing well with little kids, say around 5 or 6. Nothing too complex, nice size, and looks sturdy enough that they can drop it and bash it around a bit without 40 small parts popping out of ball sockets.
I still think that if this is meant as the kiddie line, the toys would bear more of a resemblance to what the kids would have seen recently, rather than G1, which matters more to the grown-ups. Since they'd have to pay licensing fees for the movie bots, that'd probably mean toys loosely based on the various offshoots of Alligned continuity. But I'm not a marketing expert, so what do I know?
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Comment by BlueBefore
Apr 27, 2015
"Why couldn't it be just like a leader class figure!!!" because it is 4/9ths the price.
I don't know Bumblebee looks quite modern. Parents are reminded of the fun they had with their transformers toys and naturally buy them for their kids. The Dollar General legion class figures are a good example of this.
No it just makes you upset because you suffer from immense privilege.
Nemesis Primal wrote:I still think that if this is meant as the kiddie line, the toys would bear more of a resemblance to what the kids would have seen recently, rather than G1, which matters more to the grown-ups. Since they'd have to pay licensing fees for the movie bots, that'd probably mean toys loosely based on the various offshoots of Aligned continuity. But I'm not a marketing expert, so what do I know?
I don't know Bumblebee looks quite modern. Parents are reminded of the fun they had with their transformers toys and naturally buy them for their kids. The Dollar General legion class figures are a good example of this.
MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:This is insulting towards children.
No it just makes you upset because you suffer from immense privilege.
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"Immense privilege" has nothing to do with this.
Immense greed is more like it. Look at most of the transformers.. The greed is sadly obvious.
Comment by TimothyR
Apr 27, 2015
BlueBefore wrote:"Why couldn't it be just like a leader class figure!!!" because it is 4/9ths the price.Nemesis Primal wrote:I still think that if this is meant as the kiddie line, the toys would bear more of a resemblance to what the kids would have seen recently, rather than G1, which matters more to the grown-ups. Since they'd have to pay licensing fees for the movie bots, that'd probably mean toys loosely based on the various offshoots of Aligned continuity. But I'm not a marketing expert, so what do I know?
I don't know Bumblebee looks quite modern. Parents are reminded of the fun they had with their transformers toys and naturally buy them for their kids. The Dollar General legion class figures are a good example of this.MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:This is insulting towards children.
No it just makes you upset because you suffer from immense privilege.
"Immense privilege" has nothing to do with this.
Immense greed is more like it. Look at most of the transformers.. The greed is sadly obvious.
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Greed? You are aware hasbro is a business not a charity?
It's simply design and build a toy then sell it, if it's not wanted it won't sell, if it does sell then they have rightly released a line of toys in demand.
Greed?? What a strange way of looking at it...
Comment by Allenspurs
Apr 27, 2015
TimothyR wrote:BlueBefore wrote:"Why couldn't it be just like a leader class figure!!!" because it is 4/9ths the price.Nemesis Primal wrote:I still think that if this is meant as the kiddie line, the toys would bear more of a resemblance to what the kids would have seen recently, rather than G1, which matters more to the grown-ups. Since they'd have to pay licensing fees for the movie bots, that'd probably mean toys loosely based on the various offshoots of Aligned continuity. But I'm not a marketing expert, so what do I know?
I don't know Bumblebee looks quite modern. Parents are reminded of the fun they had with their transformers toys and naturally buy them for their kids. The Dollar General legion class figures are a good example of this.MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:This is insulting towards children.
No it just makes you upset because you suffer from immense privilege.
"Immense privilege" has nothing to do with this.
Immense greed is more like it. Look at most of the transformers.. The greed is sadly obvious.
Greed? You are aware hasbro is a business not a charity?
It's simply design and build a toy then sell it, if it's not wanted it won't sell, if it does sell then they have rightly released a line of toys in demand.
Greed?? What a strange way of looking at it...
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Comment by Emerje
Apr 27, 2015
Kids really don't care about articulation. They don't equate articulation with fun like adults do. Power Rangers Zords have always been big sellers in Japan and the US and those usually don't have much more than shoulder articulation. Prime and Bee are contortionists compared to a Zord. As long as they do something fun, like transform, kids don't care.
I don't understand why people keep saying these figures are too G1 for kids. The only ones that really look G1 are 7" Prime and Starscream. 11" Prime and Bee look way more like their recent animated incarnations. About the only thing Bee has in common with G1 is the color and horns.
Emerje
I don't understand why people keep saying these figures are too G1 for kids. The only ones that really look G1 are 7" Prime and Starscream. 11" Prime and Bee look way more like their recent animated incarnations. About the only thing Bee has in common with G1 is the color and horns.
Emerje
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Comment by william-james88
Apr 27, 2015
Also, we still dont know if these are even made for north american and eurasian markets since there is almost no evidence that ties them up to those markets. So speaking of voting with our wallets or that this is terrible for kids is kind of moot at this point since these might never make it to our shores anyway.
And I find that the more interesting angle with these. In recent years (we wont bring G1 into this), I am aware of Hasbro Asia exclusive releases (GDO, which did eventually find their way to the US), European exclusive releases (upscaled Prime cyberverse deluxes) and Canadian exclusives (Final wave of Beast Hunter Cyberverse Commanders and Predacon Rising Constructbot sets) as well as the First Edition Prime figures which had a super odd distribution pattern. But is there a precedent of Brazil exclusive lines? With the price of TFs there, it seems this is where Hasbro makes their biggest margins. The fact that it appeared at their toy show and none anywhere else is a pretty big red flag for me.
On another note, as far as simplified Transformers go, I think that Bumblebee is the best attempt so far. This is for the same market as that smash and change Optimus of last year and it is leagues better.
Side story: I was looking for some TFs at Toysrus and I saw a dad shopping for a 6 year old boy. He was totally clueless in the TF aisle. He had a budget of 20$ but wanted a nice big toy to give as a present. He was clearly baffled by what little 20$ could get him (good thing he wasnt in the Marvel aisle) and he didnt want a small deluxe since it makes an unimpressive present. I asked him if his kid cared for articulation and he said "of course not", so I pointed him towards the Hyperchange Grimlock figure which was on sale at 19.99$ (canadian). Big toy, not too expensive, easy to transform, it was a win for him. I would have much preffered to point him to one of these Cyber series figure if they were available.
And I find that the more interesting angle with these. In recent years (we wont bring G1 into this), I am aware of Hasbro Asia exclusive releases (GDO, which did eventually find their way to the US), European exclusive releases (upscaled Prime cyberverse deluxes) and Canadian exclusives (Final wave of Beast Hunter Cyberverse Commanders and Predacon Rising Constructbot sets) as well as the First Edition Prime figures which had a super odd distribution pattern. But is there a precedent of Brazil exclusive lines? With the price of TFs there, it seems this is where Hasbro makes their biggest margins. The fact that it appeared at their toy show and none anywhere else is a pretty big red flag for me.
On another note, as far as simplified Transformers go, I think that Bumblebee is the best attempt so far. This is for the same market as that smash and change Optimus of last year and it is leagues better.
Side story: I was looking for some TFs at Toysrus and I saw a dad shopping for a 6 year old boy. He was totally clueless in the TF aisle. He had a budget of 20$ but wanted a nice big toy to give as a present. He was clearly baffled by what little 20$ could get him (good thing he wasnt in the Marvel aisle) and he didnt want a small deluxe since it makes an unimpressive present. I asked him if his kid cared for articulation and he said "of course not", so I pointed him towards the Hyperchange Grimlock figure which was on sale at 19.99$ (canadian). Big toy, not too expensive, easy to transform, it was a win for him. I would have much preffered to point him to one of these Cyber series figure if they were available.
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Comment by shajaki
Apr 27, 2015
I think figured out the appeal of this line:
It looks decent. But the big draw is the pseudo-secrecy. We don't know much about them, where to get them, or even if we'll get them. Whats the actual strategy of this onlt being released and distributed in one overseas country? Is it some kinda test run?
It looks decent. But the big draw is the pseudo-secrecy. We don't know much about them, where to get them, or even if we'll get them. Whats the actual strategy of this onlt being released and distributed in one overseas country? Is it some kinda test run?
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Comment by Shockwave7
Apr 27, 2015
In terms of designing, engineering, manufacturing and marketing figures that are made specifically 'to appeal to children', can we agree that the movie4 toys were a total flop? If the shelves at walmart are any indication, then hardly any of the 'made to appeal to children' figures moved at all. If they thought splitting the figure line with some made for older collectors, and some for children, was going to translate into equal sales and profitability, then they were grossly mistaken. I'm not sure what the actual sales numbers were, but seeing all those dusty, battered and bent movie4 packages still on the shelf after all this time - it's just sad.
The movie is long over and done with, gone from theaters, the DVD release long past. But the shelves at Target, Wal-mart and all the major brick and mortar retailers are still choked with tons of Movie4 One-Steps, Power Punch, Sparkers, and all the other movie4 crap that was made to 'appeal to the kiddies'. That's not even to mention the 'Titan' class shampoo bottle figures. They're just wasting shelf space that could be used for more Generations/CW figures, which (unlike the movie line) are selling like hotcakes. I say send all the Movie4 'made for kiddies' garbage back to China, recycle them and reclaim the plastic for more Combiner Wars figures.
The movie is long over and done with, gone from theaters, the DVD release long past. But the shelves at Target, Wal-mart and all the major brick and mortar retailers are still choked with tons of Movie4 One-Steps, Power Punch, Sparkers, and all the other movie4 crap that was made to 'appeal to the kiddies'. That's not even to mention the 'Titan' class shampoo bottle figures. They're just wasting shelf space that could be used for more Generations/CW figures, which (unlike the movie line) are selling like hotcakes. I say send all the Movie4 'made for kiddies' garbage back to China, recycle them and reclaim the plastic for more Combiner Wars figures.
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I cannot agree since the basic movie toys; one-steps, power battlers, are far and away my most watched reviews. In fact they continue to get more views than anything from CW or RID. Just looking at those numbers CW and RID are failures not the simplified toys
Comment by chuckdawg1999
Apr 27, 2015
Shockwave7 wrote:In terms of designing, engineering, manufacturing and marketing figures that are made specifically 'to appeal to children', can we agree that the movie4 toys were a total flop? If the shelves at walmart are any indication, then hardly any of the 'made to appeal to children' figures moved at all. If they thought splitting the figure line with some made for older collectors, and some for children, was going to translate into equal sales and profitability, then they were grossly mistaken. I'm not sure what the actual sales numbers were, but seeing all those dusty, battered and bent movie4 packages still on the shelf after all this time - it's just sad.
The movie is long over and done with, gone from theaters, the DVD release long past. But the shelves at Target, Wal-mart and all the major brick and mortar retailers are still choked with tons of Movie4 One-Steps, Power Punch, Sparkers, and all the other movie4 crap that was made to 'appeal to the kiddies'. That's not even to mention the 'Titan' class shampoo bottle figures. They're just wasting shelf space that could be used for more Generations/CW figures, which (unlike the movie line) are selling like hotcakes. I say send all the Movie4 'made for kiddies' garbage back to China, recycle them and reclaim the plastic for more Combiner Wars figures.
I cannot agree since the basic movie toys; one-steps, power battlers, are far and away my most watched reviews. In fact they continue to get more views than anything from CW or RID. Just looking at those numbers CW and RID are failures not the simplified toys
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I will also add that while yes they are still present in stores, those are just remnants. Hasbro made a ton of these and they sold. I see the left overs no different than the leftover Beast Hunter Arcee figures my Toysrus still have. And I do not think this means in any way that the deluxe Prime toys were unwanted garbage.
Also, Smash and Change Optimus and Flip and Change Grimlock are sold out all across every store I go to. Does that make them a major hit to you or no?
Comment by william-james88
Apr 27, 2015
chuckdawg1999 wrote:[
I cannot agree since the basic movie toys; one-steps, power battlers, are far and away my most watched reviews. In fact they continue to get more views than anything from CW or RID. Just looking at those numbers CW and RID are failures not the simplified toys
I will also add that while yes they are still present in stores, those are just remnants. Hasbro made a ton of these and they sold. I see the left overs no different than the leftover Beast Hunter Arcee figures my Toysrus still have. And I do not think this means in any way that the deluxe Prime toys were unwanted garbage.
Also, Smash and Change Optimus and Flip and Change Grimlock are sold out all across every store I go to. Does that make them a major hit to you or no?
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Comment by Cobotron
Apr 27, 2015
I really wish the users in here without children, or little to no experience with children, would stop assuming they know what is good for children. Maybe kids ages 4 to 7 could handle slightly more complex transformers toys based on intellect, but you have to take more into consideration than that. There are all kinds of aspects to mental and physical development in children. And every child develops at a different rate. Other than intelligence, two more that come in to play with Transformers are motor skills and attention span.
These toys are perfect for that age group. I have a 3year old daughter. One of her best friends, a boy, is just nuts for transformers. We just went to his 4th birthday party last weekend. We got him 1 step Steeljaw. He flipped. Why? Because he has Warrior Steeljaw, and it drives him crazy that he can't TF it.
I have also seen him get bored with one steps and he always goes straight to his Rescue Bots that are slightly more complex than the one steppers. He also got Generations Springer. He had absolutely no interest in that toy.
This new line finds a perfect in between. They have an interesting TF that is challenging to their developmental level, and it will help them to develop and grow their motor skills, problem solving, and patience.
I really hope this line makes it here. I think it's perfect for the kids I know and who are into Transformers. IF they do, Uncle Cobotron is gonna make Santa Klaus look like a chump to my nephew.
These toys are perfect for that age group. I have a 3year old daughter. One of her best friends, a boy, is just nuts for transformers. We just went to his 4th birthday party last weekend. We got him 1 step Steeljaw. He flipped. Why? Because he has Warrior Steeljaw, and it drives him crazy that he can't TF it.
I have also seen him get bored with one steps and he always goes straight to his Rescue Bots that are slightly more complex than the one steppers. He also got Generations Springer. He had absolutely no interest in that toy.
This new line finds a perfect in between. They have an interesting TF that is challenging to their developmental level, and it will help them to develop and grow their motor skills, problem solving, and patience.
I really hope this line makes it here. I think it's perfect for the kids I know and who are into Transformers. IF they do, Uncle Cobotron is gonna make Santa Klaus look like a chump to my nephew.
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Comment by william-james88
Apr 27, 2015
Totally agree Cobotron. A lot of us here grew up on G1, G2 or Beast Wars and none of those were overly complex. Thats why we have such fond memories of transformers in our youth. While Transformer toys have gotten more complex over the years, we still need to have some simpler toys (like we had when we were younger) for kids to get into the brand and have fun with it. If I had it my way, I would give every 5 year old in the world a G2 Dreadwing so they could fall in love with the brand as I did. But thats just not possible right now. Maybe that 4 year old would also like those hyperchange transformers? Thats the one I recomended that father at the store, he was glad to have it as an option.
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Comment by Cobotron
Apr 27, 2015
Thanks Will.
You know what TFs the little boy I mentioned and my nephew go straight for when there here in my house?
anything Legion class, and Cybertron. They lone Cybertron. Big, beefy, and easy to transform. Just like this new line.
You know what TFs the little boy I mentioned and my nephew go straight for when there here in my house?
anything Legion class, and Cybertron. They lone Cybertron. Big, beefy, and easy to transform. Just like this new line.
