he Bee Team finds a Decepticon and his reluctant Mini-Con partner scavenging for artifacts in the Autobots' first base on Earth.
Transformers: Robots In Disguise 'History Lessons' to air in United States October 22
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Re: Transformers: Robots In Disguise 'History Lessons' to air in United States October 22
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Comment by william-james88
Oct 10, 2016
The latest episode really makes me think that these 6 episodes were indeed planned from way way back. Its all about the powerizer gimmick which is what the entire toyline is sub branded as with a giant power surge (a term used on the show) Prime as the centre piece. That toy (and toyline) must have been planned at least 2 years ago and they would have media support through the show (which also takes quite a while to do) so these episodes do feel like they were always going to happen.
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Comment by o.supreme
Oct 10, 2016
^ exactly. These are Not a "Special TV Event", Not a "TV Movie"...Just more episodes of season two, nothing more (although they are some really good episodes). I'm sure there is another batch of seven that will air after this to fill out the season, and Season three will start as planned, probably in Spring 2017.
The only question I have now is...what is the "Movie" that was talked about some months ago? Perhaps it will occur as a bridge between S2 & S3? or perhaps after S3 and act as an addendum to the show, (as in the case of Predacons Rising)?
The only question I have now is...what is the "Movie" that was talked about some months ago? Perhaps it will occur as a bridge between S2 & S3? or perhaps after S3 and act as an addendum to the show, (as in the case of Predacons Rising)?
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Comment by Sabrblade
Oct 10, 2016
You guys do know that these episodes had to have been made a good while back for them to be airing now, right? It's not like they were made recently or anything. That would be impossible.
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Comment by Stuartmaximus
Oct 15, 2016
Latest ep is up
https://youtu.be/qCcHzbSDUf0
Best episode yet! everyone's in this
still dunno who that insecticon is? we get an Omega Surge Starscream(sorta like Machinima CW did) hopefully we'll get an Omega Surge Starscream toy, i laughed when the minicons tried to attack Starscream!
the fights & action in this was the best yet, finally we got to see Power Surge Prime properly this time & boy what a fight with Scream it was 
dunno who those old friends Prime was talking about 
maybe the Combination Force? coz we know it's coming
https://youtu.be/qCcHzbSDUf0
Best episode yet! everyone's in this
still dunno who that insecticon is? we get an Omega Surge Starscream(sorta like Machinima CW did) hopefully we'll get an Omega Surge Starscream toy, i laughed when the minicons tried to attack Starscream!
the fights & action in this was the best yet, finally we got to see Power Surge Prime properly this time & boy what a fight with Scream it was dunno who those old friends Prime was talking about maybe the Combination Force? coz we know it's coming
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Comment by Sabrblade
Oct 16, 2016
And now the status quo is back to being exactly the same as it was when "Decepticon Island" ended, as though the past six episodes never happened.
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Comment by PrymeStriker
Oct 16, 2016
Holy sh**, was that episode kick-ass. Starscream went ape and looked badass doing so. I was also happy to see that he wasn't defeated too easily, with the Autobots having to go through four or five scarcely-related plans to stop him. We also confirmed my suspicions that Optimus hadn't made it back to Cybertron when Bumblebee called, therefore the Cybertron story is still at play. I'm not sure how crucial this six-part special was to the overall plot, but for what it is at the moment, it was certainly a thrill. Seeing Starscream again was amazing, and I actually did enjoy Sideswipe's development here. Even it did start out kind of slow and bumpy, these episodes were fun and well put-together overall. Now, two questions: Who are Optimus' "old friends", and where the f**k do these episodes belong in between the seasons?
Except now Sideswipe's relationship with the minicons progressed to them switching partners, apparently. However, I'm sure they wanted to do that on "Decepticon Island" given the plot of "Graduation Exercises", but had to write these episodes to promote the toyline. Even still, I'm sure we haven't seen the last of Starscream.
Sabrblade wrote:And now the status quo is back to being exactly the same as it was when "Decepticon Island" ended, as though the past six episodes never happened.
Except now Sideswipe's relationship with the minicons progressed to them switching partners, apparently. However, I'm sure they wanted to do that on "Decepticon Island" given the plot of "Graduation Exercises", but had to write these episodes to promote the toyline. Even still, I'm sure we haven't seen the last of Starscream.
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Thoughts on the Weaponizer Event and the Robots in Disguise series as a whole:
The Weaponizer mini-cons seemed like a step in the right direction. Mini-cons that looked like something and not just disks, balls or 'torpedoes' . The eagles look like eagles, the snozzberries tasted like snozzberries.
But they waste too much of the episode on filler material and not enough developing the new characters. It makes their arc feel rushed and unsatisfying. Like the Decepticons earlier in the series, the Scavengers and the Bounty Hunters look too interesting to just be Vehicon goons, but it is never realized. But never fear, we got Bumblebee in leg warmers and lets shoehorn in the Ark.
Starscream's involvement in the event is a little lopsided. On the one hand, as Bee has risen from scout/'the kid' to team leader, Starscream is a more natural adversary than Megatronus or the Troika or Steeljaw. But I never once felt worried for our team because Starscream was on the scene. Bee taunts him over his inevitable failure and its true. When Soundwave popped up a few episodes back, that was nail biting because Soundwave is a threat Starscream is not.
Overall, RiD never got its act together constantly shifting what it wanted to be. It wanted to be a Decepticon of the week, no now it wants to be team builder, no how about mystic quest, no no I got it a Decepticon of the week with their sidekick minicons and now this latest gimmick.
I know, there are talking about a real season 3, but with another movie coming out which is sure to do less business than their love letter to China I think this the unofficial end of the series and I'm fine with that.
Comment by Stormtalon
Oct 16, 2016
Thoughts on the Weaponizer Event and the Robots in Disguise series as a whole:
The Weaponizer mini-cons seemed like a step in the right direction. Mini-cons that looked like something and not just disks, balls or 'torpedoes' . The eagles look like eagles, the snozzberries tasted like snozzberries.
But they waste too much of the episode on filler material and not enough developing the new characters. It makes their arc feel rushed and unsatisfying. Like the Decepticons earlier in the series, the Scavengers and the Bounty Hunters look too interesting to just be Vehicon goons, but it is never realized. But never fear, we got Bumblebee in leg warmers and lets shoehorn in the Ark.
Starscream's involvement in the event is a little lopsided. On the one hand, as Bee has risen from scout/'the kid' to team leader, Starscream is a more natural adversary than Megatronus or the Troika or Steeljaw. But I never once felt worried for our team because Starscream was on the scene. Bee taunts him over his inevitable failure and its true. When Soundwave popped up a few episodes back, that was nail biting because Soundwave is a threat Starscream is not.
Overall, RiD never got its act together constantly shifting what it wanted to be. It wanted to be a Decepticon of the week, no now it wants to be team builder, no how about mystic quest, no no I got it a Decepticon of the week with their sidekick minicons and now this latest gimmick.
I know, there are talking about a real season 3, but with another movie coming out which is sure to do less business than their love letter to China I think this the unofficial end of the series and I'm fine with that.
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Comment by Kurona
Oct 16, 2016
Anyone got a link? I mean I'm sure it'll be Optimus and Starscream using the 7 chaose emeralds mini-cons to sell their new toys power up before going back to the status quo Cybertron, but I need to see how this turns out.
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Comment by Stuartmaximus
Oct 16, 2016
If you mean a link to the latest episode? didn't i provide one already 
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Granted, Soundwave is factually more competent than Starscream, even in Prime. Such portrayal therefore is accurate. However, to your contrast, I did feel like once Starscream showed up, things became a lot more serious than when the focus was on the bumbling scavengers and the filler adventures. He took charge of the show all the way until the end, and like I said before, the Autobots had to come up with quite a few different plans just to remotely slow him down, then two more to finally stop him. Therefore, Starscream was still a huge threat in the confines of this six-parter.
I do agree that the first half was quite slow and jagged, though.
Comment by PrymeStriker
Oct 16, 2016
Stormtalon wrote:
Starscream's involvement in the event is a little lopsided. On the one hand, as Bee has risen from scout/'the kid' to team leader, Starscream is a more natural adversary than Megatronus or the Troika or Steeljaw. But I never once felt worried for our team because Starscream was on the scene. Bee taunts him over his inevitable failure and its true. When Soundwave popped up a few episodes back, that was nail biting because Soundwave is a threat Starscream is not.
Granted, Soundwave is factually more competent than Starscream, even in Prime. Such portrayal therefore is accurate. However, to your contrast, I did feel like once Starscream showed up, things became a lot more serious than when the focus was on the bumbling scavengers and the filler adventures. He took charge of the show all the way until the end, and like I said before, the Autobots had to come up with quite a few different plans just to remotely slow him down, then two more to finally stop him. Therefore, Starscream was still a huge threat in the confines of this six-parter.
I do agree that the first half was quite slow and jagged, though.
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Just scroll up 5 posts or so.
I thought this was great. These last three episodes are what I would show any fan of Prime if they were curious about RID. It is also great fiction to back up a toyline which is what fans find missing in generations.
Comment by william-james88
Oct 16, 2016
Kurona wrote:Anyone got a link? I mean I'm sure it'll be Optimus and Starscream using the 7 chaose emeralds mini-cons to sell their new toys power up before going back to the status quo Cybertron, but I need to see how this turns out.
Just scroll up 5 posts or so.
I thought this was great. These last three episodes are what I would show any fan of Prime if they were curious about RID. It is also great fiction to back up a toyline which is what fans find missing in generations.
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Comment by o.supreme
Oct 18, 2016
I cant quite put my finger on it, but something about this episode just wasn't quite as good as all the ones leading up to it, with seven episodes left still to go in season 2, I don't know why they had to shove this mini-arch all into 6 episodes...I guess we will find out in time. For all that Starscream kept obsessing about Megatron, I half expected them to perhaps show him in the end. I'm hoping perhaps the next batch will take place on Cybertron, perhaps covering whatever Optimus is investigating before heading into season 3. Still dince megatron supposedly "ended" the Decepticons, which clearly didn't stick, I wonder what his place is in the aligned continuity currently.
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Comment by william-james88
Oct 18, 2016
How do we know there will be more episodes to season 2? This looked like the end of it with Season 3 in 2017.
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Comment by o.supreme
Oct 18, 2016
Just a strong hunch. 13 or 26 episode seasons are the norm...not 19, but then again, I know CN does very little "normal" these days. It seems to me whatever Prime is hinting at going on with Cybertron, doesn't seem to fit the combiner gimmick of season 3.
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And this supports the above's statement of "45x22 min."
And this refers to these six episodes as a "TV Special Event".
Not to mention how this whole thing felt like an afterthought, what with its going out of its way to avoid making any changes to the status quo as seen at the end of "Decepticon Island", all of the Scavengers being made from recycling preexisting character models as a cost-saving measure, and the fact that "Decepticon Island" essentially resolved everything that was set up at the very beginning of the show.
These six episodes, as entertaining as they were, just feel like filler material simply meant to have something to advertise the Fall 2016 RID toys with the barest minimum of necessary effort put into them. They didn't even take Steeljaw out of the theme song sequence despite his having been defeated before and not appearing in these episodes.
Comment by Sabrblade
Oct 18, 2016
I concur. This declares RID seasons 1-2 to be "45 x 22 minutes or 42 x 22 minutes and 1 x 65 minutes", which is what the 26 season 1 episodes, the 13 season 2 episodes, and these six additional episodes would add together up to be, with the last three of these six being a serialized three-parter able to work as a TV movie.william-james88 wrote:How do we know there will be more episodes to season 2? This looked like the end of it with Season 3 in 2017.
And this supports the above's statement of "45x22 min."
And this refers to these six episodes as a "TV Special Event".
Not to mention how this whole thing felt like an afterthought, what with its going out of its way to avoid making any changes to the status quo as seen at the end of "Decepticon Island", all of the Scavengers being made from recycling preexisting character models as a cost-saving measure, and the fact that "Decepticon Island" essentially resolved everything that was set up at the very beginning of the show.
These six episodes, as entertaining as they were, just feel like filler material simply meant to have something to advertise the Fall 2016 RID toys with the barest minimum of necessary effort put into them. They didn't even take Steeljaw out of the theme song sequence despite his having been defeated before and not appearing in these episodes.
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Do you think the Bounty Hunters were also recycled? I know one was Hardshell but not sure about the others.
Comment by william-james88
Oct 18, 2016
Sabrblade wrote: all of the Scavengers being made from recycling preexisting character models as a cost-saving measure
Do you think the Bounty Hunters were also recycled? I know one was Hardshell but not sure about the others.
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Comment by Sabrblade
Oct 18, 2016
Thanks for the reminder! They too were made from recycled models. Shadelock used a Vehicon body with Prime Megatron's shoulders, Roughedge used the body-type of the museum guards from the pilot episode, and the Insecticon was just a Prime Insection model wholesale.william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote: all of the Scavengers being made from recycling preexisting character models as a cost-saving measure
Do you think the Bounty Hunters were also recycled? I know one was Hardshell but not sure about the others.
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Comment by Kurona
Oct 18, 2016
Weirdly enough, Roughedge is the one thing I wish they'd expanded on. Would have been so interesting to see why an Autobot decided to go all bounty hunter and possibly could have jibed well with what they're leading up to on Cybertron.
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Comment by Sabrblade
Oct 18, 2016
That those three were as enigmatic as they were also ties in with the "barest minimum effort" part I mentioned.Kurona wrote:Weirdly enough, Roughedge is the one thing I wish they'd expanded on. Would have been so interesting to see why an Autobot decided to go all bounty hunter and possibly could have jibed well with what they're leading up to on Cybertron.
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Yeah, a criticism I fully agree with. I know a lot of people loved the last few episodes, but when I watched them I just... kinda didn't feel anything.
Comment by Kurona
Oct 18, 2016
Sabrblade wrote:That those three were as enigmatic as they were also ties in with the "barest minimum effort" part I mentioned.Kurona wrote:Weirdly enough, Roughedge is the one thing I wish they'd expanded on. Would have been so interesting to see why an Autobot decided to go all bounty hunter and possibly could have jibed well with what they're leading up to on Cybertron.
Yeah, a criticism I fully agree with. I know a lot of people loved the last few episodes, but when I watched them I just... kinda didn't feel anything.
