Transformers TFSS 4.0 Windsweeper Arriving and In Hand Images
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Re: Transformers TFSS 4.0 Windsweeper Arriving and In Hand Images
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Comment by Sabrblade
Jul 1, 2016
There is next to nothing in that bio that even even resembles Windsweeper's personality.
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Comment by Rainmaker
Jul 1, 2016
What kind of matrix is that...
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Comment by Sabrblade
Jul 1, 2016
Read the bio.[BW] Rainmaker wrote:What kind of matrix is that...
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Seems pretty accurate to me; it just adds something new to him.
Besides, it's a new continuity. New interpretations are fine.
Comment by Kurona
Jul 1, 2016
Sabrblade wrote:There is next to nothing in that bio that even even resembles Windsweeper's personality.
Compare this:
To these:
Seems pretty accurate to me; it just adds something new to him.
Besides, it's a new continuity. New interpretations are fine.
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Comment by dragons
Jul 1, 2016
Don't like generation one comic art work on him front of plane is behind his feet
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It appears to be based around the theory that his figure was intended to be a Triggerbot rather than a Triggercon since he's the only con with chrome, spring loaded weapons like Override and Backstreet. On the flip side, Dogfight was probably meant to be a Triggercon since he has gear driven, non-chromed weapons like Ruckus and Crankcase.
Emerje
Comment by Emerje
Jul 1, 2016
Sabrblade wrote:There is next to nothing in that bio that even even resembles Windsweeper's personality.
It appears to be based around the theory that his figure was intended to be a Triggerbot rather than a Triggercon since he's the only con with chrome, spring loaded weapons like Override and Backstreet. On the flip side, Dogfight was probably meant to be a Triggercon since he has gear driven, non-chromed weapons like Ruckus and Crankcase.
Emerje
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That said, it might've been fun to have had the bio talk about how he snapped and concluded that best way to ensure Cybertron's never dirtied is to simply destroy it. (That might conflict with currently unrevealed stuff about Mayhem and the Matrix of Mailce, though.)
Comment by RevTibe
Jul 1, 2016
Yeah, mostly seems like they expanded on the "cruel" and "malicious" aspects while avoiding directly mentioning the "crazed sanitation admin" aspect. I'm assuming the latter's because it would conflict with Thunder Mayhem's role in reducing Cybertron to an apocalyptic wasteland (the messiest kind of wasteland)?Kurona wrote:Sabrblade wrote:---
Seems pretty accurate to me; it just adds something new to him.
Besides, it's a new continuity. New interpretations are fine.
That said, it might've been fun to have had the bio talk about how he snapped and concluded that best way to ensure Cybertron's never dirtied is to simply destroy it. (That might conflict with currently unrevealed stuff about Mayhem and the Matrix of Mailce, though.)
Neat stuff! Sounds likely, wouldn't be the first time FunPub's based stuff on speculative parts of Transformers history.Emerje wrote:It appears to be based around the theory that his figure was intended to be a Triggerbot rather than a Triggercon since he's the only con with chrome, spring loaded weapons like Override and Backstreet.
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Generation One artwork was sometimes a little bit too close to the toy for me sometimes, like with Blast Off and the front of his space shuttle being his entire hand.
Comment by Rainmaker
Jul 1, 2016
dragons wrote:Don't like generation one comic art work on him front of plane is behind his feet
Generation One artwork was sometimes a little bit too close to the toy for me sometimes, like with Blast Off and the front of his space shuttle being his entire hand.
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Comment by Sabrblade
Jul 1, 2016
Except the latest TCC magazine comic issue features Windsweeper and portrays him in line with his original "neat freak" personality. He gets nervous from the sight of water leaking from some rocks (mistaking it for some disgusting fluid), and idolizes Ramjet for his desire to the destroy the universe (viewing such as the ultimate cleansing operation).RevTibe wrote:Yeah, mostly seems like they expanded on the "cruel" and "malicious" aspects while avoiding directly mentioning the "crazed sanitation admin" aspect. I'm assuming the latter's because it would conflict with Thunder Mayhem's role in reducing Cybertron to an apocalyptic wasteland (the messiest kind of wasteland)?Kurona wrote:Sabrblade wrote:---
Seems pretty accurate to me; it just adds something new to him.
Besides, it's a new continuity. New interpretations are fine.
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Nothing in the profile contradicts it.
While it probably should be there because of your reasoning - and, imo, from what RevTribe (can I call you Rev?) said - but there's nothing in the bio which says he isn't like that. It just focuses on the other aspects of his absolute psychotic nature.
Comment by Kurona
Jul 1, 2016
Sabrblade wrote:Except the latest TCC magazine comic issue features Windsweeper and portrays him in line with his original "neat freak" personality. He gets nervous from the sight of water leaking from some rocks (mistaking it for some disgusting fluid), and idolizes Ramjet for his desire to the destroy the universe (viewing such as the ultimate cleansing operation).RevTibe wrote:Yeah, mostly seems like they expanded on the "cruel" and "malicious" aspects while avoiding directly mentioning the "crazed sanitation admin" aspect. I'm assuming the latter's because it would conflict with Thunder Mayhem's role in reducing Cybertron to an apocalyptic wasteland (the messiest kind of wasteland)?Kurona wrote:Sabrblade wrote:---
Seems pretty accurate to me; it just adds something new to him.
Besides, it's a new continuity. New interpretations are fine.
Nothing in the profile contradicts it.
While it probably should be there because of your reasoning - and, imo, from what RevTribe (can I call you Rev?) said - but there's nothing in the bio which says he isn't like that. It just focuses on the other aspects of his absolute psychotic nature.
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All it tells us is that he's an evil cruel bad guy who likes to hurt people (which applies to about 90% of all evil Decepticons) and that he used to be an Autobot (which was never the case for the guy). His whole "sanitation"/"anti-littering" thing that made him stand out from other Decepticons is completely ignored by his new bio.
It's as though the author only read the original toy bio and severely misinterpreted it, essentially writing a different character with only rudimentary similarities to Windsweeper, being that he's "malicious" and just "shoots anyone in the sky".
Comment by Sabrblade
Jul 1, 2016
The bio doesn't contradict his his most basic personality element... because it completely forgot to even mention it! There's no hint or trace of his being a clean freak anywhere in that bio.Kurona wrote:Nothing in the profile contradicts it.
While it probably should be there because of your reasoning - and, imo, from what RevTribe (can I call you Rev?) said - but there's nothing in the bio which says he isn't like that. It just focuses on the other aspects of his absolute psychotic nature.
All it tells us is that he's an evil cruel bad guy who likes to hurt people (which applies to about 90% of all evil Decepticons) and that he used to be an Autobot (which was never the case for the guy). His whole "sanitation"/"anti-littering" thing that made him stand out from other Decepticons is completely ignored by his new bio.
It's as though the author only read the original toy bio and severely misinterpreted it, essentially writing a different character with only rudimentary similarities to Windsweeper, being that he's "malicious" and just "shoots anyone in the sky".
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I had always thought Dogfight was a con until recently when I further looked into those toys.
Man, I wish we had an update to that front of shuttle hand design.
Those are different independent freelance writers. The guy who wrote this bio had nothing to do with TCC magazine. It was written before that magazine comic issue came out and they probably didnt share scripts since this isnt handled internally but outsourced to freelance writers.
Comment by william-james88
Jul 1, 2016
Emerje wrote: On the flip side, Dogfight was probably meant to be a Triggercon since he has gear driven, non-chromed weapons like Ruckus and Crankcase.
I had always thought Dogfight was a con until recently when I further looked into those toys.
[BW] Rainmaker wrote:dragons wrote:Don't like generation one comic art work on him front of plane is behind his feet
Generation One artwork was sometimes a little bit too close to the toy for me sometimes, like with Blast Off and the front of his space shuttle being his entire hand.
Man, I wish we had an update to that front of shuttle hand design.
Sabrblade wrote:Except the latest TCC magazine comic issue features Windsweeper and portrays him in line with his original "neat freak" personality. He gets nervous from the sight of water leaking from some rocks (mistaking it for some disgusting fluid), and idolizes Ramjet for his desire to the destroy the universe (viewing such as the ultimate cleansing operation).
Those are different independent freelance writers. The guy who wrote this bio had nothing to do with TCC magazine. It was written before that magazine comic issue came out and they probably didnt share scripts since this isnt handled internally but outsourced to freelance writers.
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Comment by Sabrblade
Jul 1, 2016
My post was in response to how RevTibe suggested that this new bio might reflect how Windsweeper is portrayed in the specific fiction that advertises this new toy.william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Except the latest TCC magazine comic issue features Windsweeper and portrays him in line with his original "neat freak" personality. He gets nervous from the sight of water leaking from some rocks (mistaking it for some disgusting fluid), and idolizes Ramjet for his desire to the destroy the universe (viewing such as the ultimate cleansing operation).
Those are different independent freelance writers. The guy who wrote this bio had nothing to do with TCC magazine. It was written before that magazine comic issue came out and they probably didnt share scripts since this isnt handled internally but outsourced to freelance writers.
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Comment by RevTibe
Jul 1, 2016
Oh, thanks! Didn't know that Mayhem had made an appearance outside of the text stories. Yeah, if Windsweeper still has his capital-Q Quirk, it is a bit surprising that it wasn't included in his bio.Sabrblade wrote:Except the latest TCC magazine comic issue features Windsweeper and portrays him in line with his original "neat freak" personality. He gets nervous from the sight of water leaking from some rocks (mistaking it for some disgusting fluid), and idolizes Ramjet for his desire to the destroy the universe (viewing such as the ultimate cleansing operation).RevTibe wrote:Yeah, mostly seems like they expanded on the "cruel" and "malicious" aspects while avoiding directly mentioning the "crazed sanitation admin" aspect. I'm assuming the latter's because it would conflict with Thunder Mayhem's role in reducing Cybertron to an apocalyptic wasteland (the messiest kind of wasteland)?Kurona wrote:Sabrblade wrote:---
Seems pretty accurate to me; it just adds something new to him.
Besides, it's a new continuity. New interpretations are fine.
Yup, Rev's a-okay! Depending on how many characters are permitted/how bothered I feel at time of registration, it can stretch out to Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer, so a degree of abbreviating is expected.Kurona wrote:Nothing in the profile contradicts it.
While it probably should be there because of your reasoning - and, imo, from what RevTribe (can I call you Rev?) said - but there's nothing in the bio which says he isn't like that. It just focuses on the other aspects of his absolute psychotic nature.
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Comment by Sabrblade
Jul 1, 2016
This Windsweeper bio is like if someone wrote a bio for BW Cartoon Dinobot and somehow managed to completely avoid even hinting at his key character trait of being an honorable warrior.
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Perhaps, but considering Windsweeper is pretty obscure... I think it can be excused.
Comment by Kurona
Jul 1, 2016
Sabrblade wrote:This Windsweeper bio is like if someone wrote a bio for BW Cartoon Dinobot and somehow managed to completely avoid even hinting at his key character trait of being an honorable warrior.
Perhaps, but considering Windsweeper is pretty obscure... I think it can be excused.
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It's fine if you don't care about the character. I've no affections for him either. But this bio undeniably missed what made Windsweeper Windsweeper. It's disappointing that it didn't represent how the character is known to be when it's not meant be a new incarnation with a new personality.
Comment by Sabrblade
Jul 1, 2016
Since when is obscurity an acceptable excuse for misrepresentation?Kurona wrote:Sabrblade wrote:This Windsweeper bio is like if someone wrote a bio for BW Cartoon Dinobot and somehow managed to completely avoid even hinting at his key character trait of being an honorable warrior.
Perhaps, but considering Windsweeper is pretty obscure... I think it can be excused.
It's fine if you don't care about the character. I've no affections for him either. But this bio undeniably missed what made Windsweeper Windsweeper. It's disappointing that it didn't represent how the character is known to be when it's not meant be a new incarnation with a new personality.
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Probably the fact that it's just one bio, which a lot of people won't use as their basis for the character anyway.
And I mean, this isn't exactly new. Tech specs and on-box bios for characters almost always misrepresent or simplify characters; just look at a ton of the Transformers Prime box bios.
I'm not saying it's great, but it's not exactly a big deal nor is it a unique new problem
Comment by Kurona
Jul 1, 2016
Sabrblade wrote:Since when is obscurity an acceptable excuse for misrepresentation?Kurona wrote:Sabrblade wrote:This Windsweeper bio is like if someone wrote a bio for BW Cartoon Dinobot and somehow managed to completely avoid even hinting at his key character trait of being an honorable warrior.
Perhaps, but considering Windsweeper is pretty obscure... I think it can be excused.
It's fine if you don't care about the character. I've no affections for him either. But this bio undeniably missed what made Windsweeper Windsweeper. It's disappointing that it didn't represent how the character is known to be when it's not meant be a new incarnation with a new personality.
Probably the fact that it's just one bio, which a lot of people won't use as their basis for the character anyway.
And I mean, this isn't exactly new. Tech specs and on-box bios for characters almost always misrepresent or simplify characters; just look at a ton of the Transformers Prime box bios.
I'm not saying it's great, but it's not exactly a big deal nor is it a unique new problem
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Comment by Sabrblade
Jul 1, 2016
This is Fun Pub we're talking about, though. They're sticklers for making things all tie together with their fiction (bios included).Kurona wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Since when is obscurity an acceptable excuse for misrepresentation?Kurona wrote:Sabrblade wrote:This Windsweeper bio is like if someone wrote a bio for BW Cartoon Dinobot and somehow managed to completely avoid even hinting at his key character trait of being an honorable warrior.
Perhaps, but considering Windsweeper is pretty obscure... I think it can be excused.
It's fine if you don't care about the character. I've no affections for him either. But this bio undeniably missed what made Windsweeper Windsweeper. It's disappointing that it didn't represent how the character is known to be when it's not meant be a new incarnation with a new personality.
Probably the fact that it's just one bio, which a lot of people won't use as their basis for the character anyway.
And I mean, this isn't exactly new. Tech specs and on-box bios for characters almost always misrepresent or simplify characters; just look at a ton of the Transformers Prime box bios.
I'm not saying it's great, but it's not exactly a big deal nor is it a unique new problem
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Well yeah, but it's still just one bio. It's a shame, but oh well.
Comment by Kurona
Jul 1, 2016
Sabrblade wrote:This is Fun Pub we're talking about, though. They're sticklers for making things all tie together with their fiction (bios included).Kurona wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Since when is obscurity an acceptable excuse for misrepresentation?Kurona wrote:Sabrblade wrote:This Windsweeper bio is like if someone wrote a bio for BW Cartoon Dinobot and somehow managed to completely avoid even hinting at his key character trait of being an honorable warrior.
Perhaps, but considering Windsweeper is pretty obscure... I think it can be excused.
It's fine if you don't care about the character. I've no affections for him either. But this bio undeniably missed what made Windsweeper Windsweeper. It's disappointing that it didn't represent how the character is known to be when it's not meant be a new incarnation with a new personality.
Probably the fact that it's just one bio, which a lot of people won't use as their basis for the character anyway.
And I mean, this isn't exactly new. Tech specs and on-box bios for characters almost always misrepresent or simplify characters; just look at a ton of the Transformers Prime box bios.
I'm not saying it's great, but it's not exactly a big deal nor is it a unique new problem
Well yeah, but it's still just one bio. It's a shame, but oh well.
