Transformers: The Last Knight Leader Dragonstorm And Combiner Infernocus Instructions Leaked

About Legions Hot Rod. Yes, there are a ton of Legion figures and the old Legends (meaning what the Legion Class was called before it was called Legion Class) figures that share that same transformation. That transformation is as old as Transformers themselves. RID Blurr, Drift, Sideswipe, Bisk. Generations Jazz, Prowl, G2 Tank Megatron. Even G1 Windcharger for the most part.
I'm sure there are a ton more. I'm just going from memory.

I'm 100% sure that TLK Legion Hot Rod is a new mold without even having it in hand. I do however have Road Buster in my hand right now and nothing about him matches Hot Rod. Except, his transformation.

Kurona wrote:

Z3ROhour wrote:MY QUERY IS THUS:

Infernicus

THE GESTALT REPAINT/RESCULPT OF TFPBH ABOMINUS...

is he made up of the Legends size botmonsters?
or...
better yet
the Deluxe versions of said beasties?

Does anyone have definitive answer
that i somehow missed?

Legends.

POOP

Any info yet on if the new torso guy for Infernocus has his own modes or just turns into a torso?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Zeedust wrote:Any info yet on if the new torso guy for Infernocus has his own modes or just turns into a torso?

Skulk? I think he just has a torso mode, I don't see any dedicated monster mode bits on him.

Assuming the box is not lying, yes, he's the only one without a monster mode, just robot and torso:

Overcracker wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Ok, I give up: who is the Legion a retool of?

Roadbuster

I'll have to disagree, I checked it and no details match. The transformation is the same aside from the arms, but as far as I can see, it's all-new.

I think so too. It's not because the transformation is the same that it's the same mold.

If it is a retool, its so extensive, it may as well just be a new mold.

Cobotron wrote:I'm 100% sure that TLK Legion Hot Rod is a new mold without even having it in hand. I do however have Road Buster in my hand right now and nothing about him matches Hot Rod. Except, his transformation.

Everybody is talking as if there is a clear definition of what counts as a retool. As far as I know, its not clear. If we take the Hasbro definition of changing the actual physical mold, then most of what you guys consider to be a retool isnt. For instance, PMOP uses new molded parts as well as old magnus parts. They didnt go to the mold and actually change anything, they just made a new one. So its more that PMOP and Ultra Magnus share some parts. But some call it a retool. Or more easily, those new heads we see on redecos (like T30 Dreadwing and Megatron). If the head isnt based on the previous head, then it a new mold and thus nothing was technically retooled.

For me, I look at CAD alterations based on previous designs. It's changing the tooling at the design level and it counts as a retool for me. Just like I consider these guys below retools since they share the same base CAD design built for the transformation (and one came well after the other so we know what is based on what) even though they dont share any parts. I never felt the sharing of parts was essential for a retool, especially since the idea of a retool is that you change a part for it to be different than what it was before.







So by my personal definition, the guys above are retools even though they don't share any parts.

OK, thoughts so far on the new releaes in this line:

Nitro looks absolutely awesome and he will be mine. I know some people reckon he'd make a good Thunderwing but...nah. I will say, though, I'm planning on a very silly headcanon for him:

"When Nitro (or whatever I'm gonna end up calling him) underwent the Headmaster process, something went a bit wrong and his head didn't gain the ability to transform. On the plus side, he can still survive decapitation and use his head on compatible bodies like any other Headmaster. Unfortunately, when not connected to a body, his head is, well, just a head. A limbless, immobile head. He's a little bit annoyed about this, as being an aviation enthusiast he was looking forward to getting the opportunity to try out flying some of his favourite human aircraft in his smaller robot mode. He also wishes the Autobot known as Cogman would stop stealing his body and going for joyrides. In his off time he enjoys going to aircraft museums and watching air shows, which would normally attract the scorn of the other Decepticons were it not for the fact he has a tendency to get very, very angry when anyone mocks his hobbies."

Cogman looks a lot of fun and I like that his car mode seats two. A shame his paint (or lack thereof) will probably suck but oh well, I suppose I could repaint him if I really feel the need to.

Both Megatrons look awesome. I was considering having him as the Fallen/Megatronus Prime, but actually, I think he'd make a sweet Liege Maximo.

Hot Rod looks...OK. Not terrible but not great.

Skullitron (DOHOHOHO) is Steelbane with a new headsculpt. Next.

Primus is a nice redeco, reminds me of WFC Cybertron.

Dragonstorm, terrible names aside, looks beastly. I love the combined altmode feature and the dragon mode looks incredible.

Infernocus...Well, the combined mode looks great with the new torso, but the lack of a beast mode for the torso bot and the bland colours suuuuuuuck.

Also, given the recent info releases regarding the new Decepticons, am I the only one who's disppointed we won't get a ROTF Brimstone redeco/retool into Mohawk?

The death of Scout class is one of the great tragedies of the franchise IMO. Cyberverse too- the Legions are fun and all but having the bigger guys available in Commander class was awesome.

I just realized, not counting ROTF Detour (who is sadly broken, which is a shame as he was a fine figure) I don't own ANY ROTF Scouts. I must fix this at some point. Brimstone is definitely on the list, as is Oil Pan and Ransack.

Anyway, topic. You know who I'm REALLY sad isn't getting a toy (AFAIK)? That WW1 Mark IV Tank Autobot from the snippets we've seen. I dunno if he's actually a separate entity or another body for Cogman, but WW1 tanks are absolutely awesome (unless you're driving one) and we've never had one as a TF altmode.

Rogue-Primal wrote:Just bought TLK Premium Edition Optimus Prime yesterday at my local Toys'R'Us in Iceland. I don't know if this OP is a chase figure for a voyager but i only saw 3 of him for the last weeks and mine was the last one left.

Voyager Optimus is not rare, but he's more in demand than Grimlock because he's a brand new mold.

How do you like him so far?

bacem wrote:

Rogue-Primal wrote:

The store also had 5 of warrior class Barricade, 3 Grimlocks(sold out), of Dinobot Scorn, 4 of that decepticon DoTM SUV with Dreads and surprisingly only 3 bumblebees

dinobot scorn? As in, TLK voyager scorn? He comes out already?

He may have meant Slash.

I wish they didn't repaint Lockdown for Hotrod. Especially now that both toys have BAD proportions.