Transformers Victory LioKaiser Haslab Live with 3 Unlockable Tiers

william-james88 wrote:Doubling up didn't work for me in the past. The market for these turned out to be pretty small, so prices didn't go up for these sets on the secondary market.

Yeah, I regret buying two VS sets.

I'll have to wait at least 20 years for it to be worth selling.

To buy or not to buy is the question.

I like it, but I don't think I $370 like it, especially since I don't have VS or DS and comparing its looks to the Iron Factory version. It's a shame - if it wasn't quite so high-ticket, I might have swung for it as I do really like the characters.

been wanting these guys, and have a bit of spare cash, so I purchased. First Haslab experiance, we'll see how it goes.

From what was shown off at Megacon, it looks like the crotch & thighs clip on top of Jaruga's vehicle mode missile launchers to make a much bigger, comically unwieldy missile launcher.



Which is a shame, yeah, both from the perspective of Liokaiser historically being a fully-integrated combiner, and also for "Oh Hasbro, so you CAN make a cartoon-styled combiner where the bots actually form the limbs and don't just clip on to a pre-existing frame?"

They all honestly, look like the blocky knockoffs I see on Amazon. They look so much like brick formers. I can't unsee the inner leg pic. Sorry hasbro, for that much money, I expect larger than deluxe guys. I wanted the omega prime, I hated ultra magnus. For this kind of money, 1 nope makes me pass.

Committed to buy only this and the Devie set. All good.

Brokebot wrote:So they finally roll this out after I've long given up and started collecting the Iron Factory versions, and then add insult to injury by Haslabing it. I swear, it's like Hasbro just doesn't want my money anymore.

Isnt Iron factory legends scaled? I dont get how this changes anything then, its completely different scales

william-james88 wrote:

Brokebot wrote:So they finally roll this out after I've long given up and started collecting the Iron Factory versions, and then add insult to injury by Haslabing it. I swear, it's like Hasbro just doesn't want my money anymore.

Isnt Iron factory legends scaled? I dont get how this changes anything then, its completely different scales

I'm not buying for scale. I'm buying because I like the look of the figures. The Combiner Wars recolor nonsense they threw out a while back seemed like just a half-hearted cash grab, and the IF set looked better (to me) than anything else that was available at the time, and honestly still looks way better than this bunch.

Here is a video of the Liokaiser portion of the Hasbro Pulse panel at MegaCon:



Unfortunately, the person recording kept the camera only on the panelists and ignored the slideshow images.

For areas that don't have Hasbro Pulse, select retailers will be listing Liokaiser on Monday. For the first time, even Brazil is listing this.

They consistently mispronounce Liokaiser's name as "Leokaiser".

Each individual bot is roughly 5.5 inches tall.

The terms they're using are "Chest Animal" and "Chestforce". For obvious reasons. "That's how we got away with that."

The decos in the renders are not final. They want to be animation accurate and there might be a deco update later.

The original Liokaiser had very little combiner kibble, so they wanted to recreate that as closely as possible. The only thing they had to add to make the combiner was the pelivs piece, everything else is completely built in and integrated into the individual figures, including the combiner head, which was a kibble piece on the original toy but is now completely stored inside Leozack. The hands are all stored inside Guyhawk, "Ellbat", and Deathcobra.

They HAD to call him "Ellbat". So, everybody just play it cool. If you say it real fast, it sounds like how it's supposed to sound. "It's in canon, now, he's British." The pose in the render is a reference to his hypnosis ability from the animation.

"Jaruga". This one was a bit contentious on how to spell the name, just because of the fun translations of L to R in Japanese. They shifted things around here and there, but they settled on "Jaruga" because Evan is from the Kre-O team and that's what they did back when he was on the Kre-O team. (NOTE: The Kreon's name was actually spelled "Jarugar".)

He turns into a dune buggy, but they didn't think that sounded cool enough, so they instead called it an "off-road race car".

Evan snuck in the "meme pose" for Killbison's render and no one called him out on it. He means this:





One of the combiner feet is built into him. One of the things they learned from Combiner Wars Predaking was about how the combiner thighs were built into them and that made the bots really chunky, so that's kind of the reason they made the separate pelvis piece.

They're really confident about hitting the 10,000 backers for this set since the previous HasLab hit a whopping 27,000 backers (seemingly ignoring the facts that the last HasLab was both an Optimus Prime toy and based on one that actually appeared on American television).

They were insistent about doing Deathcobra. In addition to making him a spare arm for the combiner, they considered going the Seacon route by making him a blaster for the combiner, but because he's so heavy they decided to make him a shoulder cannon instead. In arm mode, the helicopter blades can act as a shield, taking inspiration from other Japanese anime shows that Evan is a fan of (he doesn't specify which but acts like if you know, you know).

The electromagnetic nunchaku were very difficult to turn into a toy since they can take any shape they want in the animation. They're actually using the Masterpiece Megatron chain piece to make it a combining element, so all the pieces can go together to form the long version. Six pieces included and can all combine together so you can make it as long as you want. They all store underneath the vehicle modes.[/quote]