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Jazz was a 935 in G1
Comment by william-james88
Feb 14, 2023
Dr. Caelus wrote:Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:I feel like the only reason this isn't called Jazz is because they had to renew the copyright for Mirage. There's no other reason this couldn't be Jazz really.
Movie first, toys second. The hologram shellgame looks good on screen, and Mirage is a cooler name for an illusionist spy robot in disguise.
"Jazz" is unfortunately one typo away from offensive, so not a great choice for lead bot.
And also, Jazz was a 932 in G1, not a 911. Yes it's the same manufacturer, but that's like confusing Ratchet and Ironhide's altmodes in the 07 movie because the Topkick and Hummer were both made by GM.
Jazz was a 935 in G1
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Comment by Barricade.it
Feb 14, 2023
As this is one of the coolest alt modes I've seen, I'll buy this figure for sure.
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Comment by -Kanrabat-
Feb 14, 2023
I preordered that Cheetor and it's set to arrive next Monday.
Can't wait to get that big kitty!
Can't wait to get that big kitty!
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Typo, but thank you. Point is that he was not a 911 outside of the IDW comics:
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Of course, the obvious reason they couldn't name this character Jazz is because we already watched him die in 2007. Without a reboot, that would sort of sour audience attachment to the character.
Comment by Dr. Caelus
Feb 14, 2023
william-james88 wrote:Dr. Caelus wrote:Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:I feel like the only reason this isn't called Jazz is because they had to renew the copyright for Mirage. There's no other reason this couldn't be Jazz really.
Movie first, toys second. The hologram shellgame looks good on screen, and Mirage is a cooler name for an illusionist spy robot in disguise.
"Jazz" is unfortunately one typo away from offensive, so not a great choice for lead bot.
And also, Jazz was a 932 in G1, not a 911. Yes it's the same manufacturer, but that's like confusing Ratchet and Ironhide's altmodes in the 07 movie because the Topkick and Hummer were both made by GM.
Jazz was a 935 in G1
Typo, but thank you. Point is that he was not a 911 outside of the IDW comics:
Edit:
Of course, the obvious reason they couldn't name this character Jazz is because we already watched him die in 2007. Without a reboot, that would sort of sour audience attachment to the character.
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This movie takes place in the '90s (1992 according to the casting sheet), Jazz is still alive somewhere out there.
Question for anyone, are we really supposed to think Mirage is the same character as Dino? Saying Dino is Mirage because that was the working name that ended up on some merch and games before being established in the movie as Dino is like saying Devastator and Brawl are the same character because of those screwed up subtitles.
Emerje
Comment by Emerje
Feb 14, 2023
Dr. Caelus wrote:Edit:
Of course, the obvious reason they couldn't name this character Jazz is because we already watched him die in 2007. Without a reboot, that would sort of sour audience attachment to the character.
This movie takes place in the '90s (1992 according to the casting sheet), Jazz is still alive somewhere out there.
Question for anyone, are we really supposed to think Mirage is the same character as Dino? Saying Dino is Mirage because that was the working name that ended up on some merch and games before being established in the movie as Dino is like saying Devastator and Brawl are the same character because of those screwed up subtitles.
Emerje
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Comment by -Kanrabat-
Feb 14, 2023
Sigma users simping for Jazz,
while the alpha users are for Baron Von Joy.
while the alpha users are for Baron Von Joy.
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Personally I do think "Dino" is Mirage because of how many times the character is referred to as Mirage - including the very sequel, Age of Extinction, where Attinger's playing card uses the name Mirage to refer to the Ferrari 458 Italia Autobot.
Even merch made after the film, the Cyberverse Legion toy, also use the name Mirage. (I know it's not the grandest of things, but I still think it counts.)
So I'd say I'm content with Dino at least being considered a nickname even if it wasn't listed like Wheeljack's was thanks to Ferrari themselves.
Comment by SpaceEagle
Feb 14, 2023
Emerje wrote:Dr. Caelus wrote:Edit:
Of course, the obvious reason they couldn't name this character Jazz is because we already watched him die in 2007. Without a reboot, that would sort of sour audience attachment to the character.
This movie takes place in the '90s (1992 according to the casting sheet), Jazz is still alive somewhere out there.
Question for anyone, are we really supposed to think Mirage is the same character as Dino? Saying Dino is Mirage because that was the working name that ended up on some merch and games before being established in the movie as Dino is like saying Devastator and Brawl are the same character because of those screwed up subtitles.
Emerje
Personally I do think "Dino" is Mirage because of how many times the character is referred to as Mirage - including the very sequel, Age of Extinction, where Attinger's playing card uses the name Mirage to refer to the Ferrari 458 Italia Autobot.
Even merch made after the film, the Cyberverse Legion toy, also use the name Mirage. (I know it's not the grandest of things, but I still think it counts.)
So I'd say I'm content with Dino at least being considered a nickname even if it wasn't listed like Wheeljack's was thanks to Ferrari themselves.
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Yes, and without a reboot to avert his fate in 2007, that would sort of sour audience attachment to the character in 1992. It's hard to get attached to someone who has an especially disappointing death ahead of him.
Honestly, did you really think someone on this board somehow missed the part where this movie is a prequel?
Comment by Dr. Caelus
Feb 14, 2023
Emerje wrote:Dr. Caelus wrote:Edit:
Of course, the obvious reason they couldn't name this character Jazz is because we already watched him die in 2007. Without a reboot, that would sort of sour audience attachment to the character.
This movie takes place in the '90s (1992 according to the casting sheet), Jazz is still alive somewhere out there.
Yes, and without a reboot to avert his fate in 2007, that would sort of sour audience attachment to the character in 1992. It's hard to get attached to someone who has an especially disappointing death ahead of him.
Honestly, did you really think someone on this board somehow missed the part where this movie is a prequel?
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I'm glad Dino is his own guy (or at least that's how I choose to see it) since him being Mirage would have been such a random nameslap. I know nameslaps are a thing, but man this Ferari guy with an Italian accent as Mirage would have been just a G1 name for the sake of it (would have been similar to Hot Rod). At least here while Mirage turns into a porsche, he does have a similar colour scheme and the powers reflect the name/G1 bio. So while still a live action version of the character and not the G1 character brought to life, he's more Ironhide/Starscream than HotRod/Skids.
As for the toy, yikes, that really does not look like the character model. I don't find the chest area recognizable at all.
Comment by william-james88
Feb 14, 2023
SpaceEagle wrote:Emerje wrote:Dr. Caelus wrote:Edit:
Of course, the obvious reason they couldn't name this character Jazz is because we already watched him die in 2007. Without a reboot, that would sort of sour audience attachment to the character.
This movie takes place in the '90s (1992 according to the casting sheet), Jazz is still alive somewhere out there.
Question for anyone, are we really supposed to think Mirage is the same character as Dino? Saying Dino is Mirage because that was the working name that ended up on some merch and games before being established in the movie as Dino is like saying Devastator and Brawl are the same character because of those screwed up subtitles.
Emerje
Personally I do think "Dino" is Mirage because of how many times the character is referred to as Mirage - including the very sequel, Age of Extinction, where Attinger's playing card uses the name Mirage to refer to the Ferrari 458 Italia Autobot.
Even merch made after the film, the Cyberverse Legion toy, also use the name Mirage. (I know it's not the grandest of things, but I still think it counts.)
So I'd say I'm content with Dino at least being considered a nickname even if it wasn't listed like Wheeljack's was thanks to Ferrari themselves.
I'm glad Dino is his own guy (or at least that's how I choose to see it) since him being Mirage would have been such a random nameslap. I know nameslaps are a thing, but man this Ferari guy with an Italian accent as Mirage would have been just a G1 name for the sake of it (would have been similar to Hot Rod). At least here while Mirage turns into a porsche, he does have a similar colour scheme and the powers reflect the name/G1 bio. So while still a live action version of the character and not the G1 character brought to life, he's more Ironhide/Starscream than HotRod/Skids.
As for the toy, yikes, that really does not look like the character model. I don't find the chest area recognizable at all.
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It doesn't really matter since the status of this film within a chronology of live action transformers film is purposefully ill defined. I know fans debate about it but that's not looking at the bigger picture that the main consumers of this big budget film have had no clear indication of how this film relates to the other ones aside from throughline character cues like Bumblebee's look and the way he speaks.
So yeah, having Jazz would make them think of the other film, since we do have Bumblebee right there as well. Not sure about attachment but they clearly want this porches character to be a new character with no relation to the Jazz people may know, hence why he isn't Jazz.
Comment by william-james88
Feb 14, 2023
Dr. Caelus wrote:
Honestly, did you really think someone on this board somehow missed the part where this movie is a prequel?
It doesn't really matter since the status of this film within a chronology of live action transformers film is purposefully ill defined. I know fans debate about it but that's not looking at the bigger picture that the main consumers of this big budget film have had no clear indication of how this film relates to the other ones aside from throughline character cues like Bumblebee's look and the way he speaks.
So yeah, having Jazz would make them think of the other film, since we do have Bumblebee right there as well. Not sure about attachment but they clearly want this porches character to be a new character with no relation to the Jazz people may know, hence why he isn't Jazz.
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Comment by Starshriek
Feb 14, 2023
Really? So is this a prequal or a reboot? It makes no sense for this to be a prequal, for example, bumblebee's design. He nearly doubles height, gets a creepy face, looses his "chubby sneaker" aesthetic and changes personality. He also seems to forget all about Charlie? 
This goes for every character, I get that the cybertron scene was rushed at the end, and that's why we got the g1 designs, but it's still cannon right? I might take a break from all of this. 
This goes for every character, I get that the cybertron scene was rushed at the end, and that's why we got the g1 designs, but it's still cannon right? I might take a break from all of this.
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Comment by TulioDude
Feb 14, 2023
All of these are looking solid!
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Comment by D-Maximal_Primal
Feb 14, 2023
Freezer just looks so neat, something ideal for a troopbuilder for the Terrorcons. This is the kind of approach that could allow for Decepticon protoforms for troopbuilders.
i will get at least 3, at least one to stand alone and a couple for Terrorcon weapon modes or turrets. And maybe even more to pair up with the retail release RotB figures and the SS figures.
And Mirage looks great, looks like a fun toy. I like how it looks, and licensed Porsche is awesome. I continue to get all kinds of excited for the movie and the toys.
This is actually incorrect.
The chest appears to be the real front of the car, just the lower part, not the whole thing ala G1 datsun. You can see the top on his back. The feet are actually made of the rear bumper.
i will get at least 3, at least one to stand alone and a couple for Terrorcon weapon modes or turrets. And maybe even more to pair up with the retail release RotB figures and the SS figures.
And Mirage looks great, looks like a fun toy. I like how it looks, and licensed Porsche is awesome. I continue to get all kinds of excited for the movie and the toys.
Barricade.it wrote:But I find really annoying that They've used fake car parts for robot chest and shoulders... I mean: was it so hard to create a trasnformations which would leave front bumper and lights where They should be, instead of designing fake parts (We can also see that the front part of the car makes the legs, so the lights and the bumper of the alt mode are actually on the back of the feet)
This is actually incorrect.
The chest appears to be the real front of the car, just the lower part, not the whole thing ala G1 datsun. You can see the top on his back. The feet are actually made of the rear bumper.
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Where are you getting all that?
We have no confirmation that Bee's personality has gone through a major shift; and while Wheeljack does undeniably look different than before, Bee, Arcee and Prime look like an evolution of their Bumblebee movie designs.
Comment by Ig89ninja
Feb 14, 2023
Starshriek wrote:Really? So is this a prequal or a reboot?
...and changes personality. He also seems to forget all about Charlie?
Where are you getting all that?
We have no confirmation that Bee's personality has gone through a major shift; and while Wheeljack does undeniably look different than before, Bee, Arcee and Prime look like an evolution of their Bumblebee movie designs.
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I disagree, if this were the same character as the Jazz from the first movie that would actually be a good thing for the character. In the movie Jazz was as 1 dimensional as a character can get and the most memorable thing he did was die. If he were to appear in a prequel, even if his scenes were minimal, it would actually add some much needed weight to his later fate.
Yes, absolutely yes. Not everyone here follows the movie info that closely before the movie and the trailers have done really nothing to reflect the time period it takes place in. Compared to the Bumblebee Movie trailer which exudes 80s, the ROTB trailer could take place any time in the last 30 years doing very little to pass it off as being set in the 90s unless you're paying very close attention.
Emerje
Comment by Emerje
Feb 14, 2023
Dr. Caelus wrote:Emerje wrote:Dr. Caelus wrote:Edit:
Of course, the obvious reason they couldn't name this character Jazz is because we already watched him die in 2007. Without a reboot, that would sort of sour audience attachment to the character.
This movie takes place in the '90s (1992 according to the casting sheet), Jazz is still alive somewhere out there.
Yes, and without a reboot to avert his fate in 2007, that would sort of sour audience attachment to the character in 1992. It's hard to get attached to someone who has an especially disappointing death ahead of him.
I disagree, if this were the same character as the Jazz from the first movie that would actually be a good thing for the character. In the movie Jazz was as 1 dimensional as a character can get and the most memorable thing he did was die. If he were to appear in a prequel, even if his scenes were minimal, it would actually add some much needed weight to his later fate.
Honestly, did you really think someone on this board somehow missed the part where this movie is a prequel?
Yes, absolutely yes. Not everyone here follows the movie info that closely before the movie and the trailers have done really nothing to reflect the time period it takes place in. Compared to the Bumblebee Movie trailer which exudes 80s, the ROTB trailer could take place any time in the last 30 years doing very little to pass it off as being set in the 90s unless you're paying very close attention.
Emerje
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Comment by william-james88
Feb 14, 2023
There are new rumours afoot for upcoming 2024 Transformers toys. This time however, we don't have confirmation from shipment records or vendor lists so there is no consensus on which particular version of a character the list below may be referring to, so that has been removed to avoid confusion. We will update if this list turns out to either be fake or further confirmed. The list was first published on the TFW2005 website.
TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES CORE MOHAWK
TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES CORE RUMBLE
TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES CORE STARSCREAM
TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES DLX SCORPINOCK
TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES DLX SUNSTREAKE
TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES DLX WFC SIDESWIPE (High Moon game)
TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES VOY WFC STARSCREAM (High Moon game)
TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES VOY 86 SCRAPHEAP
TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES VOY SHOCKWAVE
TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES LDR MEGATRON
TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES LDR TF86 SWOOP
And yes, while Hasbro did specify that Swoop would be the same size as the other Dinobots on Instagram, some fans were still being worrywarts, so hopefully this list helps in that regard.
TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES CORE MOHAWK
TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES CORE RUMBLE
TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES CORE STARSCREAM
TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES DLX SCORPINOCK
TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES DLX SUNSTREAKE
TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES DLX WFC SIDESWIPE (High Moon game)
TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES VOY WFC STARSCREAM (High Moon game)
TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES VOY 86 SCRAPHEAP
TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES VOY SHOCKWAVE
TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES LDR MEGATRON
TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES LDR TF86 SWOOP
And yes, while Hasbro did specify that Swoop would be the same size as the other Dinobots on Instagram, some fans were still being worrywarts, so hopefully this list helps in that regard.
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Comment by First-Aid
Feb 14, 2023
Are we finally getting a leader TLK Megatron? And Voyager Shockwave? Gotta be SS 86...can't see the logic in releasing a Voyager movieverse when they've already done a leader.
Starscream and Scorponok must be repacks...unless it's going to be Energon Scorpy?
SS Sunstreaker? He made like a 3 second cameo in the 86 movie...
And MOHAWK?!?!? FInally!
Starscream and Scorponok must be repacks...unless it's going to be Energon Scorpy?
SS Sunstreaker? He made like a 3 second cameo in the 86 movie...
And MOHAWK?!?!? FInally!
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For Shockwave, it could be the BB movie shockwave, that's one of the few bots from that intro we didn't get to fit with the rest yet. Really not sure about Megatron, but I don't think it will be TLK.
Comment by william-james88
Feb 14, 2023
First-Aid wrote:Are we finally getting a leader TLK Megatron? And Voyager Shockwave? Gotta be SS 86...can't see the logic in releasing a Voyager movieverse when they've already done a leader.
Starscream and Scorponok must be repacks...unless it's going to be Energon Scorpy?
SS Sunstreaker? He made like a 3 second cameo in the 86 movie...
And MOHAWK?!?!? FInally!
For Shockwave, it could be the BB movie shockwave, that's one of the few bots from that intro we didn't get to fit with the rest yet. Really not sure about Megatron, but I don't think it will be TLK.
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Comment by EvasionModeBumblebee
Feb 15, 2023
Well, I'm glad to see Mohawk but man, that's an incredibly depressing roster.
I was holding onto hope that 2024 would be better than 2023 for Bayverse stuff since we only have a single core repaint in the mainline for the entireity of this year, and hopefully we'll see more Bayverse at the end of 2024, but that lineup is super disappointing to see.
Like, I could tolerate 86 when we were still getting a handul of Bay figures a year (like 2022) but now between 86 and the WFC games for some reason, we're down to getting a single core figure a year when we still have a big part of the Bay roster to get through.
It's difficult to say because it didn't pan out when I said it recently for 2023, but man, I have to hope there's more Bay stuff at the end of 2024.
I was holding onto hope that 2024 would be better than 2023 for Bayverse stuff since we only have a single core repaint in the mainline for the entireity of this year, and hopefully we'll see more Bayverse at the end of 2024, but that lineup is super disappointing to see.
Like, I could tolerate 86 when we were still getting a handul of Bay figures a year (like 2022) but now between 86 and the WFC games for some reason, we're down to getting a single core figure a year when we still have a big part of the Bay roster to get through.
It's difficult to say because it didn't pan out when I said it recently for 2023, but man, I have to hope there's more Bay stuff at the end of 2024.
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Comment by Sabrblade
Feb 15, 2023
What about Deluxe Scorponok? That can only be the Movie version, since no other Scorponok has appeared in a movie, and there wasn't a Scorponok in the High Moon Studios games.EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:Well, I'm glad to see Mohawk but man, that's an incredibly depressing roster.
I was holding onto hope that 2024 would be better than 2023 for Bayverse stuff since we only have a single core repaint in the mainline for the entireity of this year, and hopefully we'll see more Bayverse at the end of 2024, but that lineup is super disappointing to see.
Like, I could tolerate 86 when we were still getting a handul of Bay figures a year (like 2022) but now between 86 and the WFC games for some reason, we're down to getting a single core figure a year when we still have a big part of the Bay roster to get through.
It's difficult to say because it didn't pan out when I said it recently for 2023, but man, I have to hope there's more Bay stuff at the end of 2024.
