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Video Review of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG-51 Targetmaster Doublecross

Posted by Va'al Dec 3, 2017 at 4:52am CST 16,592 views
As the Takara Tomy Transformers Legends line continues to release figures for the Japanese market that Hasbro released elsewhere, and under different names, we have a video review of their latest offering in LG-51 Targetmaster Doublecross (previous seen as Titans Return Twinferno) courtesy of fellow Seibertronian chuckdawg1999!

You can see comparisons and differences between the two figures, including the slight remolds and pain changes, and the differences in the Titan Master / Headmaster figure too, plus Targetmaster Haywire. Check it out below!

Doublecross is a nice repaint but I'll be honest, I only picked the figure up for Haywire, Blurr's Targetmaster. Haywire looks really cool and is my favorite Targetmaster mold to date. Since Twinferno, the Titans Return release of Doublecross is warming shelves, I really can't justify paying the premium unless you really want Haywire.


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Re: Video Review of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG-51 Targetmaster Doublecross (view post)
Comment by Rated X Dec 3, 2017
We all bought Doublecross for Haywire. But on the flip side, it has a better paint deco than Hasbro but is missing the proper guns. So try to think of that Twinferno you bought months ago as if you bought a 3rd party weapon with a free bouns figure for 15 bucks. Chug him in the storage bin. Problem solved. Soon Windblade, Topspin, Twin Twist will be joining him.
Re: Video Review of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG-51 Targetmaster Doublecross (view post)
Comment by Deadput Dec 3, 2017
I'm purchasing the ginrai set but I don't need two of the same thing.

I have the first version of Godbomber and the Hasbro Magnus Prime from the gift box.

I have never sold something before so where would I sell these guys? I have my local comic con next year which is the biggest one in Canada ( also only place for me to buy takara transformers retail )

I could also just sell the versions that come with this set.
Re: Video Review of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG-51 Targetmaster Doublecross (view post)
Comment by Wonkimus Dec 3, 2017
Deadput wrote:I'm purchasing the ginrai set but I don't need two of the same thing.

I have the first version of Godbomber and the Hasbro Magnus Prime from the gift box.

I have never sold something before so where would I sell these guys? I have my local comic con next year which is the biggest one in Canada ( also only place for me to buy takara transformers retail )

I could also just sell the versions that come with this set.


Try eBay. There are also a lot of Facebook groups for TF collectors.
Re: Video Review of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG-51 Targetmaster Doublecross (view post)
Comment by Wonkimus Dec 3, 2017
BombshellDaBug wrote:Hey guys! I was wondering if you guys could help me out with something. Every holiday season, I try to treat myself to a pricier Transformer toy. I don't normally go for Takara stuff because of the price (which I see was the subject of an interesting conversation on this thread).

Anyways, I'm considering getting myself one of the Legends class/Headmaster sets in Takara's version of Titans Return. I've got my eye on three in particular, those being:

- Kickback and Clouder

- Condor/Laserbeak and Apeface

- Sharkticon and Sweep



Out of those three the only one I got was Sharkticon, because "Sweep" is a different face than Scourge. If you ever get a second Scourge you can use this head and make him be a minion.

I thought about the Kickback set but it wasn't different enough.
Re: Video Review of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG-51 Targetmaster Doublecross (view post)
Comment by nycPrime Dec 3, 2017
Deadput wrote:I'm purchasing the ginrai set but I don't need two of the same thing.

I have the first version of Godbomber and the Hasbro Magnus Prime from the gift box.

I have never sold something before so where would I sell these guys? I have my local comic con next year which is the biggest one in Canada ( also only place for me to buy takara transformers retail )

I could also just sell the versions that come with this set.

eBay is the safest and easiest. Just keep in mind that you'll pay about 13% in fees to them and PayPal. You'll also have to factor in shipping cost.

The other option is via the FB groups or through these forums. There is a 3% fee only for PayPal goods and services. Sometimes both parties negotiate that out and you do the transaction as a payment to friends and family. There is no fee with that route, but there is no buyer and seller protection. And in both cases, keep in mind shipping fee.

If you're unfamiliar, go with eBay. And lastly, make sure to exclude counties you don't want to ship to.
Re: Video Review of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG-51 Targetmaster Doublecross (view post)
Comment by blackeyedprime Dec 3, 2017
the god Ginrai sets pretty nice (not sure its worth the prices being charged but hey -I'd go for the g1 reissue over this set any day of the week).

Never had the 'magnus prime' mold before and although its hands and handguns win over the hasbro (and also a weird but nice nod to how the g1 takara./hasbro powermaster prime varied), the feet (or lack of) is just plain ugly. Just adding the god bomber feet alone make it look nicer from the front.
The clear windows on Prime are really nice, and i'm tempted to unscrew the cab and use it on the hasbro toy in bot mode (the reds wont match, but it is a shame to cover it up with the godbomber chest piece -that and the perfect effect kits red already doesnt quite match the hasbro version so it won't make much difference color wise) and just use the perfect effect ginrai separately as a deluxe figure. not sure why on the comparison photos above they keep using the guns on the shoulders instead of on his legs as per norm.

One of my godbombers legs suffers from a tight spring so popping one of the foot pieces off takes some doing. The torso part really reminds of RID fire convoy/magnus combination and I wouldnt wish that on a kid or a parent who has to transform it for them. The clips that it attaches to the cab look a birt fragile so I wont be transforming it that often. It's pretty much impossible to not whistle the power rangers theme whilst sitting the titan masters in the cockpit in godginrai mode.
Godbombers helmet looks really nice on blasters titan master head tho it can be tricky to get it on him and I havent tried it out on a body yet. God ginrai looks good with G1 scorponok side by side. I think design wise I'd prefer the wings to be lower down/shoulder level but it kind of reminds me cybertron prime the way it is.

I forgot to order legends misfire at the same time, but still struggling over the legends target master misfire or a hasbro misfire that has more accurate guns for vehicle mode/guns that can split and put a TMaster in them anyhoos and matches my hasbro triggerhappys weapons. I think I would actually go for the hasbro version if it was available here at retail.
Re: Video Review of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG-51 Targetmaster Doublecross (view post)
Comment by Evil Eye Dec 3, 2017
Chug him in the storage bin. Problem solved. Soon Windblade, Topspin, Twin Twist will be joining him.

Why? Topspin and Twin Twist are some of the best deluxes we've had in ages. Great robot mode, fun vehicle mode, awesome transformation, and they're the goddamn Jumpstarters except not terrible!

Speaking of "Old toy except not awful", remember those weird Diaclone pull-back figures (powerdashers I think)? They need new figures. Headmasters, combiner limbs, whatever, just give me Drilldasher!
Re: Video Review of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG-51 Targetmaster Doublecross (view post)
Comment by chuckdawg1999 Dec 3, 2017
Rated X wrote:We all bought Doublecross for Haywire. But on the flip side, it has a better paint deco than Hasbro but is missing the proper guns. So try to think of that Twinferno you bought months ago as if you bought a 3rd party weapon with a free bouns figure for 15 bucks. Chug him in the storage bin. Problem solved. Soon Windblade, Topspin, Twin Twist will be joining him.


Or I could sell them, which I plan on doing
Re: Video Review of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG-51 Targetmaster Doublecross (view post)
Comment by kurthy Dec 3, 2017
Rated X wrote:We all bought Doublecross for Haywire. But on the flip side, it has a better paint deco than Hasbro but is missing the proper guns. So try to think of that Twinferno you bought months ago as if you bought a 3rd party weapon with a free bouns figure for 15 bucks. Chug him in the storage bin. Problem solved. Soon Windblade, Topspin, Twin Twist will be joining him.


Yep, I'm stealing my son's twinferno guns.
Re: Video Review of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG-51 Targetmaster Doublecross (view post)
Comment by william-james88 Dec 3, 2017
Deadput wrote:I'm purchasing the ginrai set but I don't need two of the same thing.

I have the first version of Godbomber and the Hasbro Magnus Prime from the gift box.

I have never sold something before so where would I sell these guys? I have my local comic con next year which is the biggest one in Canada ( also only place for me to buy takara transformers retail )

I could also just sell the versions that come with this set.

A nice place to sell stuff is right here, on the buy sell trade forum: carbombya-buy-sell-or-trade-f36.php

No e-bay fees and if you use paypal you still have an intermediary.
Re: Video Review of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG-51 Targetmaster Doublecross (view post)
Comment by Emerje Dec 3, 2017
Black Hat wrote:
Chug him in the storage bin. Problem solved. Soon Windblade, Topspin, Twin Twist will be joining him.

Why? Topspin and Twin Twist are some of the best deluxes we've had in ages. Great robot mode, fun vehicle mode, awesome transformation, and they're the goddamn Jumpstarters except not terrible!

He means after you've taken their guns away for the Takara Tomy versions. My problem with that is that Twinferno's guns aren't anything like his originals so I don't feel any need to take them for LG Doublecross. I've never seen the Jumpstarters in stores and their online prices aren't that much less than the Japanese prices making for some expensive guns if you went that way. Plus LG Windblade comes with a proper sword so there's no need to take them from the TR version.

Emerje
Re: Video Review of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG-51 Targetmaster Doublecross (view post)
Comment by blackeyedprime Dec 3, 2017
Scorp vs God ginrai (I've used some guns I had lying about on his shoulders just for fun, not even sure how I had two of the same guns or what titans return figure they are from). Plus I found Zarak hiding in the Scorponoks chest so all's good until he decides to hide again.
Re: Video Review of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG-51 Targetmaster Doublecross (view post)
Comment by blackeyedprime Dec 3, 2017
God Blaster (Legends godbomber helmet, titans return blaster titan master)
Re: Video Review of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG-51 Targetmaster Doublecross (view post)
Comment by Rated X Dec 3, 2017
Black Hat wrote:
Chug him in the storage bin. Problem solved. Soon Windblade, Topspin, Twin Twist will be joining him.

Why? Topspin and Twin Twist are some of the best deluxes we've had in ages. Great robot mode, fun vehicle mode, awesome transformation, and they're the goddamn Jumpstarters except not terrible!

Speaking of "Old toy except not awful", remember those weird Diaclone pull-back figures (powerdashers I think)? They need new figures. Headmasters, combiner limbs, whatever, just give me Drilldasher!



I meant chug the Hasbro versions in the storage bin and proudly display the Takara versions with the Hasbro weapons.
Re: Video Review of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG-51 Targetmaster Doublecross (view post)
Comment by Rated X Dec 3, 2017
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Rated X wrote:We all bought Doublecross for Haywire. But on the flip side, it has a better paint deco than Hasbro but is missing the proper guns. So try to think of that Twinferno you bought months ago as if you bought a 3rd party weapon with a free bouns figure for 15 bucks. Chug him in the storage bin. Problem solved. Soon Windblade, Topspin, Twin Twist will be joining him.


Or I could sell them, which I plan on doing


Ive thought about selling some Hasbro stuff. But I'm just so lazy to learn how to sell on e-bay (I buy all the time) The thought of dealing with all the extra work of shipping kind of turns me off. I wish I knew some collectors that lived in South Florida that wanted to link up.
Re: Video Review of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG-51 Targetmaster Doublecross (view post)
Comment by Omegatron. Dec 9, 2017
I don't know if this has been mentioned here yet but I found this on Reddit. Ginrai's feet in the God Ginrai set have been modified slightly to make his heel spurs more stable.
Re: Video Review of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG-51 Targetmaster Doublecross (view post)
Comment by grimdragon2001 Dec 9, 2017
thats good to know. a more stable Ginrai will be welcome
Re: Video Review of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG-51 Targetmaster Doublecross (view post)
Comment by fenrir72 Dec 16, 2017
To those bellyaching against the Sixshot mold ( I just updated tfwiki of this feature fyi), the Takara mold has a slight retool on his knees to make it not as a useless floppy mess as the Hb version was. Two small pegs are now added to the outer side of his knees to give the junction a bit of a snag when bending it.

So not only we get a new Headmaster (no more paint chipping on the face plate), remolded helmet, new paint apps but a small fix on his knees.
Re: Video Review of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG-51 Targetmaster Doublecross (view post)
Comment by Va'al Dec 19, 2017
Courtesy of site sponsor RobotKingdom's official Facebook page, we have some new packaging images - both front and rear - for the latest releases in the Takara Tomy Transformers Legends figures, including LG-54 Bumblebee with Exo-Suit Spike, LG-55 Targetmaster Slugslinger, LG-56 Perceptor and Ramhorn, and LG-57 Octane with Headmaster Ghost Starscream.

All of the images have been mirrored below for your viewing convenience, and offer us a look at these Japanese versions of the figures released in the Hasbro Titans Return line as Legend, Deluxe, and Voyager class. What do you think of the differences? Will you be double-dipping, or were you waiting for these ones specifically? Let us know in the discussion in the Energon Pub!

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Re: Video Review of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG-51 Targetmaster Doublecross (view post)
Comment by blackeyedprime Dec 19, 2017
Octane is a must for starscreams head/possessed mode, tho I think I prefer hasbro Octanes colors and wing decals but the hasbro one will either turn up here at discount shops or not at all.

Bumblebee is a must for Spike and the clear windows even with me having the hasbro version.

Slugslinger is a must just from the hasbro version not being released here, so if I'm going for an import might as well give Takara the money.

Perceptor is a pass, I'm still happy with the classics figure that I haven't even picked up the hasbro titans return one yet, was waiting for reductions and I will have to find/import hasbro ramhorn for the titan master anyhoos.
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