Mindmaster wrote:While working at his job in Wal*Mart, TFW2005 user DecepticusPrime found a rather interesting find; possible Deluxes of Rattrap, Nightbeat, Crosscut, and Tankor!was messing around the system at work this morning(walmart) and saw these listed in the deluxe assortment
Rattrap, Nightbe(at i assume), tankor, and Crosscu(t i assume)
551716976-crosscut
551716975-tankor
551716974-rattrap
551716973-nightbeat
According to the user, he says they were cross-referenced with the IDW Generations: Thrilling 30 line.
Wal*Mart Listings Tease New Generations Deluxes: Rattrap, Crosscut, Nightbeat, and Tankor?
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Re: Wal*Mart Listings Tease New Generations Deluxes: Rattrap, Crosscut, Nightbeat, and Tankor?
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Comment by Wolfman Jake
Sep 1, 2013
Tankor may very well be the Beast Machines character, but isn't it odd to release Beast Wars Rhinox along with his future self at the same time in completely different size classes? Is a rhino bigger than a cybertronian tank?
Here's a weird idea. Maybe this new Tankor is IDW Grindcore? Think about it. We've already got tons of IDW inspired figures coming out, and Grindcore is another "new" character created for the IDW Generation 1 comics. Also, Grindcore has a tank alt-mode, and he's apparently repurposed from the Takara Transformers United EX line "Tankmaster" (or visa versa?). Why not call him Grindcore, then? Maybe trademark reasons, although, Gridcore was a name for a movie line Autobot (redeco of Cybertron Landmine). Maybe the name is unobtainable now, or Hasbro doesn't want confusion with his faction due to earlier use of the name Gridcore for the Autobots? Why use Tankor? Seems to be a goto name for Hasbro these past several years when nothing else will work. It could also be an attempt to bridge the character with Tankmaster from United EX.
Here's a weird idea. Maybe this new Tankor is IDW Grindcore? Think about it. We've already got tons of IDW inspired figures coming out, and Grindcore is another "new" character created for the IDW Generation 1 comics. Also, Grindcore has a tank alt-mode, and he's apparently repurposed from the Takara Transformers United EX line "Tankmaster" (or visa versa?). Why not call him Grindcore, then? Maybe trademark reasons, although, Gridcore was a name for a movie line Autobot (redeco of Cybertron Landmine). Maybe the name is unobtainable now, or Hasbro doesn't want confusion with his faction due to earlier use of the name Gridcore for the Autobots? Why use Tankor? Seems to be a goto name for Hasbro these past several years when nothing else will work. It could also be an attempt to bridge the character with Tankmaster from United EX.
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Comment by First-Aid
Sep 1, 2013
Generations Ratrap?? Fer bootin' up cold...!
Seriously, that's pretty awesome.
Seriously, that's pretty awesome.
Re: Wal*Mart Listings Tease New Generations Deluxes: Rattrap, Crosscut, Nightbeat, and Tankor?
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When I was proposing my theory, I also hit the same snag. But then I remembered something: in the IDW comics, Galvatron, Cyclonus, and Scourge are separate characters from Megatron, Skywarp, and Thundercracker, respectively, as opposed to the traditional "Unicron upgraded these guys". So it's quite possible that in the IDW continuity, Rhinox and Tankor, like the aforementioned Decepticons, are separate characters.
Ehh, maybe. I could see them doing a Tankor first, then, knowing how lazy Hasbro can be sometimes, they can redeco it into Grindcore.
Comment by Mindmaster
Sep 1, 2013
Wolfman Jake wrote:Tankor may very well be the Beast Machines character, but isn't it odd to release Beast Wars Rhinox along with his future self at the same time in completely different size classes? Is a rhino bigger than a cybertronian tank?
When I was proposing my theory, I also hit the same snag. But then I remembered something: in the IDW comics, Galvatron, Cyclonus, and Scourge are separate characters from Megatron, Skywarp, and Thundercracker, respectively, as opposed to the traditional "Unicron upgraded these guys". So it's quite possible that in the IDW continuity, Rhinox and Tankor, like the aforementioned Decepticons, are separate characters.
Here's a weird idea. Maybe this new Tankor is IDW Grindcore? Think about it. We've already got tons of IDW inspired figures coming out, and Grindcore is another "new" character created for the IDW Generation 1 comics. Also, Grindcore has a tank alt-mode, and he's apparently repurposed from the Takara Transformers United EX line "Tankmaster" (or visa versa?). Why not call him Grindcore, then? Maybe trademark reasons, although, Gridcore was a name for a movie line Autobot (redeco of Cybertron Landmine). Maybe the name is unobtainable now, or Hasbro doesn't want confusion with his faction due to earlier use of the name Gridcore for the Autobots? Why use Tankor? Seems to be a goto name for Hasbro these past several years when nothing else will work. It could also be an attempt to bridge the character with Tankmaster from United EX.
Ehh, maybe. I could see them doing a Tankor first, then, knowing how lazy Hasbro can be sometimes, they can redeco it into Grindcore.
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Of course, a deluxe Rattrap sounds like he might be a tad too big. Maybe we'll see a new spin on the ol' package-someone-with-a-downed-traffic-light trick? Some actual garbage to munch? His collection of Waspinator parts?
Comment by Bumblevivisector
Sep 1, 2013
If true, then the only way this year could get any better for Beast Wars news is if someone came up with a treatment to permanently counteract the Transmetal chrome flaking problem!Mindmaster wrote: But then I remembered something: in the IDW comics, Galvatron, Cyclonus, and Scourge are separate characters from Megatron, Skywarp, and Thundercracker, respectively, as opposed to the traditional "Unicron upgraded these guys". So it's quite possible that in the IDW continuity, Rhinox and Tankor, like the aforementioned Decepticons, are separate characters.
Of course, a deluxe Rattrap sounds like he might be a tad too big. Maybe we'll see a new spin on the ol' package-someone-with-a-downed-traffic-light trick? Some actual garbage to munch? His collection of Waspinator parts?
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How about the laser pistol that was used in the cartoon? Or maybe one of his explosives that he also used often in the cartoon?
Comment by Mindmaster
Sep 1, 2013
Bumblevivisector wrote:If true, then the only way this year could get any better for Beast Wars news is if someone came up with a treatment to permanently counteract the Transmetal chrome flaking problem!Mindmaster wrote: But then I remembered something: in the IDW comics, Galvatron, Cyclonus, and Scourge are separate characters from Megatron, Skywarp, and Thundercracker, respectively, as opposed to the traditional "Unicron upgraded these guys". So it's quite possible that in the IDW continuity, Rhinox and Tankor, like the aforementioned Decepticons, are separate characters.
Of course, a deluxe Rattrap sounds like he might be a tad too big. Maybe we'll see a new spin on the ol' package-someone-with-a-downed-traffic-light trick? Some actual garbage to munch? His collection of Waspinator parts?
How about the laser pistol that was used in the cartoon? Or maybe one of his explosives that he also used often in the cartoon?
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Comment by Prime Evil
Sep 1, 2013
Re: Wal*Mart Listings Tease New Generations Deluxes: Rattrap, Crosscut, Nightbeat, and Tankor?
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Is it coincidence that I was just looking at that gallery not even a minute ago?
Comment by Mindmaster
Sep 1, 2013
Prime Evil wrote:I would love a nightbeat done like this:
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/radicons- ... tbeat.html
Is it coincidence that I was just looking at that gallery not even a minute ago?
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As for Nightbeat, that example looks awesome...but dammit, I still want a Nightbeat with not only his Marvel head, but G1 character model chest! To The Pit with IDW considerations!
Comment by Bumblevivisector
Sep 1, 2013
I was assuming the gun is a given, but neither of those examples would take up enough space to get a scout-sized Rattrap into deluxe packaging, much like Animated Prowl's shuriken (and he wasn't even Scout-y, just skinny). Maybe if they threw in a dozen of those bombs, but did he ever use more than 2 at once on the show, 1 in each forearm?Mindmaster wrote:Bumblevivisector wrote:If true, then the only way this year could get any better for Beast Wars news is if someone came up with a treatment to permanently counteract the Transmetal chrome flaking problem!Mindmaster wrote: But then I remembered something: in the IDW comics, Galvatron, Cyclonus, and Scourge are separate characters from Megatron, Skywarp, and Thundercracker, respectively, as opposed to the traditional "Unicron upgraded these guys". So it's quite possible that in the IDW continuity, Rhinox and Tankor, like the aforementioned Decepticons, are separate characters.
Of course, a deluxe Rattrap sounds like he might be a tad too big. Maybe we'll see a new spin on the ol' package-someone-with-a-downed-traffic-light trick? Some actual garbage to munch? His collection of Waspinator parts?
How about the laser pistol that was used in the cartoon? Or maybe one of his explosives that he also used often in the cartoon?
As for Nightbeat, that example looks awesome...but dammit, I still want a Nightbeat with not only his Marvel head, but G1 character model chest! To The Pit with IDW considerations!
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Coincidence or did i mind control Mindmaster?!?!?!
Comment by Prime Evil
Sep 1, 2013
Mindmaster wrote:Prime Evil wrote:I would love a nightbeat done like this:
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/radicons- ... tbeat.html
Is it coincidence that I was just looking at that gallery not even a minute ago?
Coincidence or did i mind control Mindmaster?!?!?!
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Comment by Jelze Bunnycat
Sep 1, 2013
If those listings are true, then we pretty much have the whole line-up for the coming year, give or take. We now have 17 Deluxes, which is a good size for the year (Prime had 14 and 16 Deluxes, FoC Generations had 18).
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I remember reading sometime last year that Generations would receive up to at least forty toys. Including the Fall of Cybertron Deluxes and Voyagers, and the the Thrilling 30 Voyagers, we've got just about forty five in total (may have forgotten a couple Voyagers). I'd say we received much love for us Classics-lovers.
Comment by Mindmaster
Sep 1, 2013
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:If those listings are true, then we pretty much have the whole line-up for the coming year, give or take. We now have 17 Deluxes, which is a good size for the year (Prime had 14 and 16 Deluxes, FoC Generations had 18).
I remember reading sometime last year that Generations would receive up to at least forty toys. Including the Fall of Cybertron Deluxes and Voyagers, and the the Thrilling 30 Voyagers, we've got just about forty five in total (may have forgotten a couple Voyagers). I'd say we received much love for us Classics-lovers.
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There's is one problem, Grimdcore is like super dead right now, as in he died shortly after his debut in 2008.
I do believe tanker is the Beast Machines guy.
Comment by Dead Metal
Sep 1, 2013
Wolfman Jake wrote:Tankor may very well be the Beast Machines character, but isn't it odd to release Beast Wars Rhinox along with his future self at the same time in completely different size classes? Is a rhino bigger than a cybertronian tank?
Here's a weird idea. Maybe this new Tankor is IDW Grindcore? Think about it. We've already got tons of IDW inspired figures coming out, and Grindcore is another "new" character created for the IDW Generation 1 comics. Also, Grindcore has a tank alt-mode, and he's apparently repurposed from the Takara Transformers United EX line "Tankmaster" (or visa versa?). Why not call him Grindcore, then? Maybe trademark reasons, although, Gridcore was a name for a movie line Autobot (redeco of Cybertron Landmine). Maybe the name is unobtainable now, or Hasbro doesn't want confusion with his faction due to earlier use of the name Gridcore for the Autobots? Why use Tankor? Seems to be a goto name for Hasbro these past several years when nothing else will work. It could also be an attempt to bridge the character with Tankmaster from United EX.
There's is one problem, Grimdcore is like super dead right now, as in he died shortly after his debut in 2008.
I do believe tanker is the Beast Machines guy.
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Eh, hasn't stopped Hasbro in the past.
Comment by Mindmaster
Sep 1, 2013
Dead Metal wrote:There's is one problem, Grimdcore is like super dead right now, as in he died shortly after his debut in 2008.
Eh, hasn't stopped Hasbro in the past.
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It would still be weird for them to make a toy based on a character that showed up for a few pannels in one comic, and hasn't shown up for 5 years due to being dead.
Comment by Dead Metal
Sep 1, 2013
Mindmaster wrote:Dead Metal wrote:There's is one problem, Grimdcore is like super dead right now, as in he died shortly after his debut in 2008.
Eh, hasn't stopped Hasbro in the past.
It would still be weird for them to make a toy based on a character that showed up for a few pannels in one comic, and hasn't shown up for 5 years due to being dead.
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Although, we are getting Double Dealer very soon, who died in his very own spotlight issue. Admittedly, he's not being produced with his IDW body, as he's a repaint of Generations Blitzwing. Still, being dead doesn't stop a toy from being made. How many toys did Prime Cliffjumper get AFTER he died 5 minutes into the series premiere?
Comment by Wolfman Jake
Sep 1, 2013
Dead Metal wrote:Mindmaster wrote:Dead Metal wrote:There's is one problem, Grimdcore is like super dead right now, as in he died shortly after his debut in 2008.
Eh, hasn't stopped Hasbro in the past.
It would still be weird for them to make a toy based on a character that showed up for a few pannels in one comic, and hasn't shown up for 5 years due to being dead.
Although, we are getting Double Dealer very soon, who died in his very own spotlight issue. Admittedly, he's not being produced with his IDW body, as he's a repaint of Generations Blitzwing. Still, being dead doesn't stop a toy from being made. How many toys did Prime Cliffjumper get AFTER he died 5 minutes into the series premiere?
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Comment by Sabrblade
Sep 1, 2013
Yeah, but he appeared in the IDW comics well before his own spotlight issue, making on and off recurring appearances before his death at the end of in his spotlight.Wolfman Jake wrote:Although, we are getting Double Dealer very soon, who died in his very own spotlight issue.
Cliffjumper also starred in the four-issue Prime graphic novel that came out more than a month before the cartoon's first episode premiered.Wolfman Jake wrote:How many toys did Prime Cliffjumper get AFTER he died 5 minutes into the series premiere?
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Comment by Supreme Convoy
Sep 1, 2013
Oh man. I would love a new version of Nightbeat!
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Here's the differences:
Doubledealer is an established oldschool character
Doubledealer was a major character before his death
Grindcore was only in that one issue to get killed off, he wasn't even a minor character, that's like making a toy based off of the guy Megatron killed in that one flashback of the movie (07).
Comment by Dead Metal
Sep 1, 2013
Wolfman Jake wrote:Dead Metal wrote:Mindmaster wrote:Dead Metal wrote:There's is one problem, Grimdcore is like super dead right now, as in he died shortly after his debut in 2008.
Eh, hasn't stopped Hasbro in the past.
It would still be weird for them to make a toy based on a character that showed up for a few pannels in one comic, and hasn't shown up for 5 years due to being dead.
Although, we are getting Double Dealer very soon, who died in his very own spotlight issue. Admittedly, he's not being produced with his IDW body, as he's a repaint of Generations Blitzwing. Still, being dead doesn't stop a toy from being made. How many toys did Prime Cliffjumper get AFTER he died 5 minutes into the series premiere?
Here's the differences:
Doubledealer is an established oldschool character
Doubledealer was a major character before his death
Grindcore was only in that one issue to get killed off, he wasn't even a minor character, that's like making a toy based off of the guy Megatron killed in that one flashback of the movie (07).
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Comment by Jelze Bunnycat
Sep 1, 2013
And silly me, we have a full 18 Deluxes this year. I forgot about the Mini-Con 3-pack. 
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Same here. So let me correct myself: 46 Generations toys.
Comment by Mindmaster
Sep 1, 2013
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:And silly me, we have a full 18 Deluxes this year. I forgot about the Mini-Con 3-pack.
Same here. So let me correct myself: 46 Generations toys.
