WFC Siege Optimus Prime Review!
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We also cannot understate how unusual this truly is, as not only has there been no reported sightings of this figure yet, but there has also never been an official statement directly from the mouths of anyone at either Hasbro or Takara even confirming this figures existence, let alone visage. This seems to suggest that some retailer may have accidentally released the figure early, in which case the hunt is most certainly on for Siege fans everywhere, or that TonTon is a HasTak employee. If you happen to be as lucky as TonTon and find this bewildering figure, be sure to let us know in your area’s sightings forum.
Special thanks to Riley Hoffman, Survivefan23, and Powermaster Ultra Prime for all sending this review our way!
Seeing as this is our first in-depth look at the figure, be sure to discuss your thoughts on the figure (as well as how TonTon may have acquired the figure) in the forums below, and stay tuned to Seibertron.com for more Transformers news and reviews!
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Posted by ZeroWolf on February 2nd, 2019 @ 2:07pm CST
Posted by Agent 53 on February 2nd, 2019 @ 2:19pm CST
I mean I know they'll have planned some big Toyfair reveal for these figures, and I'm sure there will be some surprises (Siege Omega being properly revealed fingers crossed) but they have to know by now that the gig is up. These figures exist and anyone who cares knows it.
Posted by TAAO on February 2nd, 2019 @ 2:29pm CST

Posted by Nemesis Maximo on February 2nd, 2019 @ 3:03pm CST
But man, that thing looks good.
Posted by X3ROhour on February 2nd, 2019 @ 3:29pm CST
Nemesis Maximo wrote:william-james88 wrote:Z3ROhour wrote:HAS ANYONE NOTICED
Optimus Prime
smoke stacks & rifle
a bit too... underwhelming?
OIIJM?
I rh8nk his rifle is the perfect size to satisfy any fan.

Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 2nd, 2019 @ 4:06pm CST
The smaller robot has to be the weaker of the modes, like Ultra Magnus, a bit chunkier (tho not Energon bad) than I would have liked and the G1 style vs. Cybertron... It makes me wanna yell:
"Armor Time! <insert Galaxy Force/Cybertron theme> Galaxy Force!"

Posted by -Kanrabat- on February 2nd, 2019 @ 4:18pm CST
Still, look like a solid toy for those who don't have the Cybertron original and/or don't plan to get Siege Magnus.
Posted by Skritz on February 2nd, 2019 @ 4:40pm CST
If only his smaller robot head was that of the mouthed Cybertron Optimus. Then he'd actually shoot up a couple point up for me but as he is right now, it somewhat stink of compromise to appease TEH GEEWUN. I'm really tempted to get one for custom fodder, however.
Edit: Beside people saying it could work as Nova Prime, I want to turn mine into neo-G1/Aligned Prima by painting him white, light blue and silver.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on February 2nd, 2019 @ 4:53pm CST
Skritz wrote: I'm really tempted to get one for custom fodder, however.
That's a good idea. And the fact that the super mode is 100% partforming open an infinity of possibilities.
Posted by Vic Zanzibar on February 2nd, 2019 @ 5:18pm CST
Posted by Survivefan23 on February 2nd, 2019 @ 5:28pm CST
Posted by Skritz on February 2nd, 2019 @ 5:40pm CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:Skritz wrote: I'm really tempted to get one for custom fodder, however.
That's a good idea. And the fact that the super mode is 100% partforming open an infinity of possibilities.
Like I said, one idea I'm legit thinking of doing is a G1-ish version of Aligned Prima. You see, Marvel Comics Prima was this yellow and blue kibble-less Silverbolt lookalike. However his Aligned design (which also got used in IDW), or 'neo-G1' as I call it depict him as primarily a heavenly white and blue. This design also depict his helmet with side wing-like protrusions.
My idea is to use this mold because it look suitably Optimus Prime (I mean, it is an Optimus toy!) in its Super Mode without having a headsculpt that is identical to G1 Prime. That helmet and the big wings make him look suitably angelic, hence my Prima idea.
Then I'd get a Star Saber (the sword, not the dude) off Shapeways and insert the matrix part that come with Optimal Optimus in the hilt.

Posted by Lunatic Prime on February 2nd, 2019 @ 5:54pm CST
Vic Zanzibar wrote:I like that this figure exists, but I already have the black-ish repaint version wearing the '07 movie Wingblade as a backpack and that is more than good enough for me. Actually, that figure was the first Prime I ever got and is among the first Transformers I ever got at all. Feels kind of weird that it is old enough now to be remade.
I have the regular version of OP with the '07 Wingblade attached to him and it's just an awesome combination. I have to say the new looks better in the review than in the pictures that leaked first. But I only like his powered up robot mode. All other modes are kind of ugly. And he's missing too many cool gimmick of the original. The only reason I would get him is if they'll give him a good partner to combine with and make an awesome combination.
As speaking of that: since Combiner Wars I want a Leader class Tidal Wave to combine with CW or a new Armada Megatron. And retool of this SIEGE Leader class UM/OP mold into Thunderclash would be amazing

Posted by Skritz on February 2nd, 2019 @ 5:56pm CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on February 2nd, 2019 @ 6:24pm CST
Lunatic Prime wrote:Vic Zanzibar wrote:I like that this figure exists, but I already have the black-ish repaint version wearing the '07 movie Wingblade as a backpack and that is more than good enough for me. Actually, that figure was the first Prime I ever got and is among the first Transformers I ever got at all. Feels kind of weird that it is old enough now to be remade.
I have the regular version of OP with the '07 Wingblade attached to him and it's just an awesome combination. I have to say the new looks better in the review than in the pictures that leaked first. But I only like his powered up robot mode. All other modes are kind of ugly. And he's missing too many cool gimmick of the original. The only reason I would get him is if they'll give him a good partner to combine with and make an awesome combination.
As speaking of that: since Combiner Wars I want a Leader class Tidal Wave to combine with CW or a new Armada Megatron. And retool of this SIEGE Leader class UM/OP mold into Thunderclash would be amazing
I think we are overdue a thubderclash

Posted by Skritz on February 2nd, 2019 @ 6:27pm CST

Posted by Lunatic Prime on February 2nd, 2019 @ 6:51pm CST
But this one would definitely be perfectSkritz wrote:Thunderlcash is one of these guys a lot of older fans beg for whenever there is a chunky Optimus mold.

And I still want my super mode ThunderwingThe same way people beg for a Thunderwing whenever there is a chunky jet mold. The curse of the 'Thunder'.


Posted by Skritz on February 2nd, 2019 @ 7:04pm CST
Lunatic Prime wrote:But this one would definitely be perfectSkritz wrote:Thunderlcash is one of these guys a lot of older fans beg for whenever there is a chunky Optimus mold.
And I still want my super mode ThunderwingThe same way people beg for a Thunderwing whenever there is a chunky jet mold. The curse of the 'Thunder'.![]()
What annoy me is that Titans Return gave us Sky Shadow, whose jet part is basically 100% Thunderdwing on the basis that Black Shadow was a retool of G1 Thunderwing. All he would have needed is a new helmet, a new head a tiny bit of chest remolding and BAM! Leader class Thunderwing.
But nope. All we got is a small diecast head.

Posted by Lunatic Prime on February 2nd, 2019 @ 7:33pm CST
Skritz wrote:Lunatic Prime wrote:But this one would definitely be perfectSkritz wrote:Thunderlcash is one of these guys a lot of older fans beg for whenever there is a chunky Optimus mold.
And I still want my super mode ThunderwingThe same way people beg for a Thunderwing whenever there is a chunky jet mold. The curse of the 'Thunder'.![]()
What annoy me is that Titans Return gave us Sky Shadow, whose jet part is basically 100% Thunderdwing on the basis that Black Shadow was a retool of G1 Thunderwing. All he would have needed is a new helmet, a new head a tiny bit of chest remolding and BAM! Leader class Thunderwing.
But nope. All we got is a small diecast head.
Absolutely my words. I guess they wanted to save him in case PotP Evolution Thunderwing would be a thing especially as the chest is completely hollow and no transformation going in this part but as he didn't... I hope they'll still give us a WfC trilogy Leader class Thunderwing with upgrade armor.
Posted by Skritz on February 2nd, 2019 @ 7:50pm CST
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on February 2nd, 2019 @ 8:45pm CST
Posted by Albatross250 on February 2nd, 2019 @ 9:31pm CST



How many weeks till toyfair?
Posted by Albatross250 on February 2nd, 2019 @ 9:38pm CST
Skritz wrote:I'm one of those people hoping that the contender for the Prime votes all get toys some day, at least those who were characters in need of a good Voyager/Leader update. So, you know, Star Saber, Deathsaurus, Thunderwing and Shockwave. Of course we did get Shockwave and while Ultra Magnus had the CW toy, he also got a Siege toy nonetheless.
Id be really rolling myself if Star Saber is a leader class and also a brainmaster of him included. Dezaras either too.

we might get Thunderwing, Arcee on the other hand.

Posted by Rodimus Prime on February 2nd, 2019 @ 10:58pm CST

Posted by Barricade.it on February 3rd, 2019 @ 7:11am CST
Posted by Emerje on February 3rd, 2019 @ 7:12am CST
Survivefan23 wrote:Honestly, I think TonTon got him from a overseas seller or off of a Ebay seller. Remember with lines like ROTF & Animated? Back in the day, some well known YouTube reviewers like Peaugh got figures early before their release. That, I think, is how TonTon got him.
If you go to TonTon's Google+ page the one person in his circle (Minh Huy Le) appears to be from Vietnam. Vietnam is where the Transformers factory is located, you do the math.

Emerje
Posted by Lunatic Prime on February 3rd, 2019 @ 7:44am CST
I am pretty sure we'll get Star Saber. It'd be foolish of HASBRO to not give us a new Generations version of him And I'd be down for a retool in Thunderwing.Sentinel_Primal wrote:I feel like perhaps in the second installment we may get a leader Star Saber, and a retool could be Thunderwing. It's not the best solution, but it's one I feel works well enough that Hasbro might do it. They see a demand for both, and they can save money by just retooling them into each other, if we do get them at all
Albatross250 wrote:How many weeks till toyfair?
Almost 2
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on February 3rd, 2019 @ 8:05am CST
Emerje wrote:Survivefan23 wrote:Honestly, I think TonTon got him from a overseas seller or off of a Ebay seller. Remember with lines like ROTF & Animated? Back in the day, some well known YouTube reviewers like Peaugh got figures early before their release. That, I think, is how TonTon got him.
If you go to TonTon's Google+ page the one person in his circle (Minh Huy Le) appears to be from Vietnam. Vietnam is where the Transformers factory is located, you do the math.
Emerje
Wow, sucks to be this Minh Huy Le, what with Google+ going away in April.

Posted by ZeroWolf on February 3rd, 2019 @ 9:41am CST
Lunatic Prime wrote:I am pretty sure we'll get Star Saber. It'd be foolish of HASBRO to not give us a new Generations version of him And I'd be down for a retool in Thunderwing.Sentinel_Primal wrote:I feel like perhaps in the second installment we may get a leader Star Saber, and a retool could be Thunderwing. It's not the best solution, but it's one I feel works well enough that Hasbro might do it. They see a demand for both, and they can save money by just retooling them into each other, if we do get them at allAlbatross250 wrote:How many weeks till toyfair?
Almost 2
Would you be down for Star Saber if they modeled him on his IDW version?

Posted by Lunatic Prime on February 3rd, 2019 @ 9:57am CST
Even MOREZeroWolf wrote:Lunatic Prime wrote:I am pretty sure we'll get Star Saber. It'd be foolish of HASBRO to not give us a new Generations version of him And I'd be down for a retool in Thunderwing.Sentinel_Primal wrote:I feel like perhaps in the second installment we may get a leader Star Saber, and a retool could be Thunderwing. It's not the best solution, but it's one I feel works well enough that Hasbro might do it. They see a demand for both, and they can save money by just retooling them into each other, if we do get them at all
Would you be down for Star Saber if they modeled him on his IDW version?



That would be awesome.ZeroWolf wrote:As for Thunderwing... A crazy idea... An exclusive set, called Battle of Thunder (or thunderdome) where we get two leader Class retools, one for Thunderwing...One for Thunderclash!
Posted by Skritz on February 3rd, 2019 @ 11:11am CST
No the reason why Star Saber seem so inevitable is the precedent laid out by Overlord: a Leader class almost 1:1 remake of a big, pricy Japanese-exclusive figure and character released as a mass retail Leader-class figure. Outside of some places in Europe, Overlord had never been released in the west at mass retail and yet Titans Return saw him get the biggest price point at mass retail because, let's face it, Overlord would not have worked at anything smaller.
This is why I think Star Saber has to happen some day: there aren't a lot of Autobots left for the Leader price point unless Hasbro decide to fill every single line with Optimus/Magnus/Rodimus/Jetfire every single time. Right now we are down to only two big (big as in size and chunk)

I mean there's Dai Atlas, but it seem like Takara has this one covered this time around with Legends EX.
Posted by Epsilon Delta on February 3rd, 2019 @ 11:23am CST
Posted by Skritz on February 3rd, 2019 @ 11:38am CST
Epsilon Delta wrote:It's funny how Ultra Magnus used to always start off as Optimus, and now we have Ultra Magni becoming Primes. I still hope someone at Hasbro goes crazy and says "You know what, let's finally give Epsilon Delta what he has always wanted and make an Ultra Magnus out of the Galaxy Force/Cybertron Optimus Prime."
They'll retool an Optimus into an Ultra Magnus and then retool that Magnus back into Optimus only to later use parts of that Optimus to make another Magnus which...

Posted by Epsilon Delta on February 3rd, 2019 @ 11:42am CST
Skritz wrote:Epsilon Delta wrote:It's funny how Ultra Magnus used to always start off as Optimus, and now we have Ultra Magni becoming Primes. I still hope someone at Hasbro goes crazy and says "You know what, let's finally give Epsilon Delta what he has always wanted and make an Ultra Magnus out of the Galaxy Force/Cybertron Optimus Prime."
They'll retool an Optimus into an Ultra Magnus and then retool that Magnus back into Optimus only to later use parts of that Optimus to make another Magnus which...
I meant the original GF/C Prime. I have dreams. Don't crush them

Posted by -Kanrabat- on February 3rd, 2019 @ 1:05pm CST
Skritz wrote:Optimus only to later use parts of that Optimus to make another Magnus which...
One could easily buy both Siege leaders. Them mix-n-match the parts for some creative super modes.
Posted by Wireless_Phantom on February 3rd, 2019 @ 1:12pm CST
Posted by Nemesis Primal on February 3rd, 2019 @ 2:06pm CST
Wireless_Phantom wrote:I can't say I'm certain, but I'm pretty sure this Prime still has the panels from Magnus' trailers on his legs, so we might be able to do some fan-moding for a different truck mode.
They don't look to be the exact same panels, given how Magnus's folded up for the transformation, but I agree that those side panels on his super mode boots definitely still appear to be on hinges for a yet unknown reason.
This review has absolutely solidified for me that I am no longer interested in paying full price for Magnus and am instead much more interested in waiting for the superior version of the mold, Prime looks amazing and I cannot wait. I might still snag Magnus if I find him on sale somewhere/discounted on the new Hasbro store, but I'm not nearly as invested as I am in Prime. Plus I'm trying to limit myself to only buying myself 2 Leader figures a year unless they're not full price, and I already grabbed an SS Blackout last month.
Also, of the PotP vote characters we have yet to get, I would be the most excited for Deathsaurus, followed by Thunderwing. I still want an updated Energon Wing Saber more than I do a Star Saber, IDW-inspired or otherwise. Thunderclash would also be amazing though.
Posted by Lunatic Prime on February 3rd, 2019 @ 5:12pm CST
BEFORE:
AFTER:
Posted by Jeddostotle7 on February 3rd, 2019 @ 6:33pm CST
Posted by Hellscream9999 on February 3rd, 2019 @ 6:55pm CST
Jeddostotle7 wrote:I recently finally got Voyager Prime, and I'm loving him. While I don't really have a problem with the truck mode like I know some people do, I did notice that the parts of the truck face/cab that people don't like (grill, roof lights, translucent bits, weird turbine bits on the bottoms of the sides, etc.) are all formed either by Prime's backpack or extraneous parts on the forearms, all of which are fairly easily and safely removable, which leads me to question - why hasn't anyone designed an upgrade kit which replaces those bits with parts that make the truck mode more resemble a classic Optimus Earth semi?
Well for one thing the mushroom peg keeping the backpack on is pinned in making it permanently blocked; in general though, now that a lot of people are getting him in hand, I think the enjoyment they're getting out of him is kinda cooling down their dislike of the vehicle mode
Posted by -Kanrabat- on February 3rd, 2019 @ 6:56pm CST
Jeddostotle7 wrote:why hasn't anyone designed an upgrade kit which replaces those bits with parts that make the truck mode more resemble a classic Optimus Earth semi?
This make me want to get a Siege voyager Optimus so that I can mod the **** out of it.

Posted by Hellscream9999 on February 3rd, 2019 @ 6:59pm CST

He's so good now that his roof lets me transform him into a vehicle; just so awesome on every level, I really kinda need a nemesis version of this mold with trans-red plastic all over his truck mode face, it would be so sick

Posted by Nemesis Maximo on February 3rd, 2019 @ 7:01pm CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:Jeddostotle7 wrote:I recently finally got Voyager Prime, and I'm loving him. While I don't really have a problem with the truck mode like I know some people do, I did notice that the parts of the truck face/cab that people don't like (grill, roof lights, translucent bits, weird turbine bits on the bottoms of the sides, etc.) are all formed either by Prime's backpack or extraneous parts on the forearms, all of which are fairly easily and safely removable, which leads me to question - why hasn't anyone designed an upgrade kit which replaces those bits with parts that make the truck mode more resemble a classic Optimus Earth semi?
Well for one thing the mushroom peg keeping the backpack on is pinned in making it permanently blocked; in general though, now that a lot of people are getting him in hand, I think the enjoyment they're getting out of him is kinda cooling down their dislike of the vehicle mode
Not to mention, he’s only been out for so long. Design process and turnaround time isn’t overnight.
Posted by Jeddostotle7 on February 3rd, 2019 @ 7:02pm CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:Jeddostotle7 wrote:I recently finally got Voyager Prime, and I'm loving him. While I don't really have a problem with the truck mode like I know some people do, I did notice that the parts of the truck face/cab that people don't like (grill, roof lights, translucent bits, weird turbine bits on the bottoms of the sides, etc.) are all formed either by Prime's backpack or extraneous parts on the forearms, all of which are fairly easily and safely removable, which leads me to question - why hasn't anyone designed an upgrade kit which replaces those bits with parts that make the truck mode more resemble a classic Optimus Earth semi?
Well for one thing the mushroom peg keeping the backpack on is pinned in making it permanently blocked; in general though, now that a lot of people are getting him in hand, I think the enjoyment they're getting out of him is kinda cooling down their dislike of the vehicle mode
Actually, not quite - it doesn't have complete clearance, so it is ever so slightly dodgy, but you definitely can get the mushroom peg past the hinge keeping the peg slot on to remove it without damaging anything. The hinge on the torso has to be angled up as far as possible, and you have to pull the mushroom peg up and out to do it.
EDIT: images for reference, showing it's possible to do it without damaging any part involved:
the position needed to do it:

after-shots of both the hinge on the torso and its peg slot and the mushroom peg on the backpack:


EDIT 2: higher-angle shot, further showing no damage to the peg slot:

Posted by -Kanrabat- on February 3rd, 2019 @ 7:20pm CST

Posted by Hellscream9999 on February 3rd, 2019 @ 7:25pm CST
Jeddostotle7 wrote:Actually, not quite - it doesn't have complete clearance, so it is ever so slightly dodgy, but you definitely can get the mushroom peg past the hinge keeping the peg slot on to remove it without damaging anything. The hinge on the torso has to be angled up as far as possible, and you have to pull the mushroom peg up and out to do it.
Fair enough, I did know that it was sorta close at that angle, but I didn't want to make it seem like that was a sure-fire option
Posted by Jeddostotle7 on February 3rd, 2019 @ 7:34pm CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:Jeddostotle7 wrote:Actually, not quite - it doesn't have complete clearance, so it is ever so slightly dodgy, but you definitely can get the mushroom peg past the hinge keeping the peg slot on to remove it without damaging anything. The hinge on the torso has to be angled up as far as possible, and you have to pull the mushroom peg up and out to do it.
Fair enough, I did know that it was sorta close at that angle, but I didn't want to make it seem like that was a sure-fire option
Ah, that's understandable.
Also, here's some shots of him with both the backpack and the forearm kibble removed (Do note that removing the forearm kibble does seem to be stressing the plastic a little bit; for the window panels on the outsides of the forearms it's stressing it on the actual panel, which can seemingly be avoided by pulling it straight out of its hinge instead of one side then the other, but for the turbine thingys on the undersides of the forearms it's stressing the plastic inside the actual forearm, and I'm not sure how to avoid it, perhaps by making sure you pull the mushroom peg for it out first on the side of the hole that is bordered by part of the inner half piece of the forearm, which doesn't actually form any part of the peg slot and just closes up the hole, so that you're just pushing a separate piece out of the way slightly and not really stressing anything, or if you really wanna be careful, take a screwdriver to the forearm, open it up, and pull the mushroom peg for the turbine thingy out horizontally just to make sure it doesn't stress anything):



Posted by william-james88 on February 3rd, 2019 @ 10:16pm CST
Skritz wrote:Epsilon Delta wrote:It's funny how Ultra Magnus used to always start off as Optimus, and now we have Ultra Magni becoming Primes. I still hope someone at Hasbro goes crazy and says "You know what, let's finally give Epsilon Delta what he has always wanted and make an Ultra Magnus out of the Galaxy Force/Cybertron Optimus Prime."
They'll retool an Optimus into an Ultra Magnus and then retool that Magnus back into Optimus only to later use parts of that Optimus to make another Magnus which...
In the previous trilogy, we had a leader ultra magnus that was retooled into Optimus Prime which was further retooled into a toy released by Hasbro called Magnus Prime

Also, if you want more clumsy robotic poetry, the previous homage to Galaxy Convoy was in a botshot toy called... Ultra Magnus

Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 3rd, 2019 @ 10:54pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Also, if you want more clumsy robotic poetry, the previous homage to Galaxy Convoy was in a botshot toy called... Ultra Magnus
Not quite, he was actually redecoed from an Optimus Prime (which I have):

He can be found in the Armada Optimus Prime toy list, not the G1 one like Ultra Magnus was.
However the fact remains the Cybertron design was still favored more among the non-G1 series next to Beast Wars. My guess is that unlike the Armada and Energon ones he's a single unit and not that different between Standard and Super Modes.
Posted by Lunatic Prime on February 4th, 2019 @ 2:59am CST
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