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News Credits: 3 · by **DedicatedGhostArt** » Wed Apr 27, 2016 7:25 pm

william-james88 wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:Hmm I am actually kinda now thinking that Predaking may not be as good of an option as I thought. I like him, but I only recently have kinda wanted to get him. I think it would be a better option to get the guy I have been wanting for a year now. That being: Platinum Supreme Starscream. I like Predaking, but he seems to be hard to keep together and such. He is more of a shelf piece, whereas SSS is more playable. Also, SS is for about 80 USD on BBTS currently. Best deal on him I could find for a while.

When it comes to opportunity cost, I feel that the one I want more is the one I should get, rather than the one everyone likes more. Also, the original version of Supreme Starscream came out about the time I first learned about Transformers, which was around 2004 to 2006. Cybertron toys are really nostalgic to me, even though I hate the show.

I hear you. However I want to dispell some things you may have read:

1. Pedaking sticks well together.
2. Supreme Starscream is not more playable. He does not pose well. Both have abut the same amount of articulation. Supreme Starscream has the worst articulation among all Supreme TF toys. If you want that toy, you are better off finding a complete original second hand, they do not sell for a lot.
3. Both are as much shelfpieces. However you can pose predaking combined, all robot modes or beast modes, or a mix.

I know SS' not very posable, but out of nostalgia's sake, I like it better. I might get a Masterpiece instead though or something. I do also really want Hasbro's MP Starscream, but I want to get something for under 100 USD.

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Wed Apr 27, 2016 8:01 pm

SillySpringer wrote:I know SS' not very posable, but out of nostalgia's sake, I like it better. I might get a Masterpiece instead though or something. I do also really want Hasbro's MP Starscream, but I want to get something for under 100 USD.

You couldnt get him last year when he came out for 60$. I dont remember but there arent any trus in your area right?

Kurona wrote:If the only way to complete the trio of Prowl, Smokescreen and Bluestreak in CW was by getting a Platinum set when the other two were retail, that'd be insane and ridiculous.

I hear you but I dont find it any more ridiculous than a platinum set being the only way to get a voyager grimlock in the RID line, a line that is made for kids and parents who wouldnt think to buy a platinum set :BANG_HEAD:

News Credits: 191 · by **Kurona** » Wed Apr 27, 2016 8:09 pm

william-james88 wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:I know SS' not very posable, but out of nostalgia's sake, I like it better. I might get a Masterpiece instead though or something. I do also really want Hasbro's MP Starscream, but I want to get something for under 100 USD.

You couldnt get him last year when he came out for 60$. I dont remember but there arent any trus in your area right?

Kurona wrote:If the only way to complete the trio of Prowl, Smokescreen and Bluestreak in CW was by getting a Platinum set when the other two were retail, that'd be insane and ridiculous.

I hear you but I dont find it any more ridiculous than a platinum set being the only way to get a voyager grimlock in the RID line, a line that is made for kids and parents who wouldnt think to buy a platinum set

I mean, Generations is also made for kids. All series have their adult fans and while it seems odd to have a RiD set aimed directly at adult collectors, it's not too farfetched beyond the initial kneejerk reaction.

News Credits: 3 · by **DedicatedGhostArt** » Wed Apr 27, 2016 8:52 pm

william-james88 wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:I know SS' not very posable, but out of nostalgia's sake, I like it better. I might get a Masterpiece instead though or something. I do also really want Hasbro's MP Starscream, but I want to get something for under 100 USD.

You couldnt get him last year when he came out for 60$. I dont remember but there arent any trus in your area right?

Yes. I'll probably go over there around July just to see if they have anything amazing. I am mostly planning to get something online right now though. If I don't see anything there that I like a lot then I'll just order whatever online.

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Thu Apr 28, 2016 3:38 pm

Cybertron Starscream isn't exactly a Figma, but he's not a G1 brick either. Saying his posability is the same as Predaking is not the case. In fact, the only thing I found limiting on CSS was the arms. And even then he still has shoulder and elbow movement.

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Thu Apr 28, 2016 3:42 pm

shajaki wrote:Cybertron Starscream isn't exactly a Figma, but he's not a G1 brick either. Saying his posability is the same as Predaking is not the case. In fact, the only thing I found limiting on CSS was the arms. And even then he still has shoulder and elbow movement.

Arms, waist and head, no? And I am pretty sure Tantrum has more articulated arms. However when it comes to his legs, yeah he has better articulation. However, I do not think he has greater playability based on this higher integer in articulation. That was my main point.

News Credits: 3 · by **DedicatedGhostArt** » Thu Apr 28, 2016 4:06 pm

william-james88 wrote:
shajaki wrote:Cybertron Starscream isn't exactly a Figma, but he's not a G1 brick either. Saying his posability is the same as Predaking is not the case. In fact, the only thing I found limiting on CSS was the arms. And even then he still has shoulder and elbow movement.

Arms, waist and head, no? And I am pretty sure Tantrum has more articulated arms. However when it comes to his legs, yeah he has better articulation. However, I do not think he has greater playability based on this higher integer in articulation. That was my main point.

Yeah but he still is nostalgic to me.

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Thu Apr 28, 2016 4:51 pm

william-james88 wrote:
shajaki wrote:Cybertron Starscream isn't exactly a Figma, but he's not a G1 brick either. Saying his posability is the same as Predaking is not the case. In fact, the only thing I found limiting on CSS was the arms. And even then he still has shoulder and elbow movement.
Arms, waist and head, no? And I am pretty sure Tantrum has more articulated arms. However when it comes to his legs, yeah he has better articulation. However, I do not think he has greater playability based on this higher integer in articulation. That was my main point.

Playability is in the hands of the beholder

News Credits: 3 · by **DedicatedGhostArt** » Thu Apr 28, 2016 4:54 pm

shajaki wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
shajaki wrote:Cybertron Starscream isn't exactly a Figma, but he's not a G1 brick either. Saying his posability is the same as Predaking is not the case. In fact, the only thing I found limiting on CSS was the arms. And even then he still has shoulder and elbow movement.
Arms, waist and head, no? And I am pretty sure Tantrum has more articulated arms. However when it comes to his legs, yeah he has better articulation. However, I do not think he has greater playability based on this higher integer in articulation. That was my main point.
Playability is in the hands of the beholder

When "you've got the touch, you've got the power..."

:-P

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Thu Apr 28, 2016 4:56 pm

SillySpringer wrote:
shajaki wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
shajaki wrote:Cybertron Starscream isn't exactly a Figma, but he's not a G1 brick either. Saying his posability is the same as Predaking is not the case. In fact, the only thing I found limiting on CSS was the arms. And even then he still has shoulder and elbow movement.
Arms, waist and head, no? And I am pretty sure Tantrum has more articulated arms. However when it comes to his legs, yeah he has better articulation. However, I do not think he has greater playability based on this higher integer in articulation. That was my main point.
Playability is in the hands of the beholder

When "you've got the touch, you've got the power..."

That was a horrible pun but I love it so I will give you that one :lol:

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Fri Apr 29, 2016 10:06 am

The first listing of the Platinum Cyclonus, Scourge and Sweep set is up at Amazon Spain, which will be the exclusive retailer for that region. It is said to come out in two weeks and it is priced at around 100 Euros, which is equivalent to $115 USD. For those wondering who Cyclonus' armada was, this set's title seems to clarify it to simply be the sweeps since it's called Armada of Cyclonus.

You can see a ton of images in this set as part of our 2016 Toy Fair gallery

by **Robogeek1973** » Fri Apr 29, 2016 10:15 am

Wow, that's pricy.

At this point it's to be expected, but I can't believe that they actually sell enough of these at retail price to be able to keep churning them out.

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Fri Apr 29, 2016 10:20 am

Robogeek1973 wrote:Wow, that's pricy.

At this point it's to be expected, but I can't believe that they actually sell enough of these at retail price to be able to keep churning them out.

I dont think it matters. There is 0 r&d cost for these and none have die cast. Also the prices in europe are usually inflatedcso this will be the same price as the junkion rodimus pack in the states.

News Credits: 13 · by **kurthy** » Fri Apr 29, 2016 11:17 am

I have a feeling that Cyclonus will stay in the box for me, I just want more Sweeps.

by **YoungPrime** » Fri Apr 29, 2016 11:27 am

If I buy this set it'll be for the 2 Sweeps. That Cyclonus would be sold immediately.

by **StarFireMk4** » Fri Apr 29, 2016 12:04 pm

Yeesh, that is expensive....

...I'll buy it. =P~

by **Katarn84** » Fri Apr 29, 2016 12:37 pm

Well, I don't have those molds... might get them this summer.

News Credits: 41 · by **Cobotron** » Fri Apr 29, 2016 2:32 pm

You know what? I feel like I've never seen a Platinum set never go on sale.
The first thing I think when I see these come out, I like it, I'll wait for a sale.
Can anybody think of a Platy that sold out at full price?

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Fri Apr 29, 2016 2:38 pm

Cobotron wrote:You know what? I feel like I've never seen a Platinum set never go on sale.
The first thing I think when I see these come out, I like it, I'll wait for a sale.
Can anybody think of a Platy that sold out at full price?

Yes, in Canada the Platinum Dinobots sold out at full price. I did buy them on sale (of course!) but they still had some in stock after the black firday sale and sold out at full price.

Also, Target does boost the prices of their platinum editions when they go on sale, making the sale useless. That happened last year with one of the set (I forget which one, probably the coneheads).

News Credits: 10 · by **Agamemnon** » Fri Apr 29, 2016 3:36 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Cobotron wrote:You know what? I feel like I've never seen a Platinum set never go on sale.
The first thing I think when I see these come out, I like it, I'll wait for a sale.
Can anybody think of a Platy that sold out at full price?

Yes, in Canada the Platinum Dinobots sold out at full price. I did buy them on sale (of course!) but they still had some in stock after the black firday sale and sold out at full price.

Also, Target does boost the prices of their platinum editions when they go on sale, making the sale useless. That happened last year with one of the set (I forget which one, probably the coneheads).

Yeah, the Coneheads was the set I ws going to bring up. I don't remember them going on clearance...

News Credits: 650 · by **ScottyP** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 11:52 am

Cobotron wrote:You know what? I feel like I've never seen a Platinum set never go on sale.
The first thing I think when I see these come out, I like it, I'll wait for a sale.
Can anybody think of a Platy that sold out at full price?

YotS Omega, at least temporarily. YotH OP, Bruticus/Grimlock FoC set, Platinum Blaster/Perceptor (very temporarily, but it was shown as "Sold Out" through its official distribution channel for a time), I think that's all. This doesn't account for localized/one-off/storewide sales. I could also be wrong about this, but it really isn't important.

I bet that Platinum Unicron will sell quickly, if that rumor is true. The Amazon exclusive one a few years back sure did.

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 6:28 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Cobotron wrote:You know what? I feel like I've never seen a Platinum set never go on sale.
The first thing I think when I see these come out, I like it, I'll wait for a sale.
Can anybody think of a Platy that sold out at full price?
Yes, in Canada the Platinum Dinobots sold out at full price. I did buy them on sale (of course!) but they still had some in stock after the black firday sale and sold out at full price.

Also, Target does boost the prices of their platinum editions when they go on sale, making the sale useless. That happened last year with one of the set (I forget which one, probably the coneheads).

I think all the AOE sets sold out. In my town "Breakout Battle", "Autobots United", and "Dinobots Unleashed" all disappeared fast.

News Credits: 650 · by **ScottyP** » Sun May 01, 2016 12:07 pm

shajaki wrote:In my town "Breakout Battle", "Autobots United", and "Dinobots Unleashed" all disappeared fast.

You know, these were online only here in the US, but I think Breakout Battle was the only one that moved at regular price. Autobots United sold out quick, but only after HTS put it on clearance then had a 20% off coupon hit a couple weeks later. Dinobots Unleashed got clearanced hard by BBTS, one of its official channels for distribution.

News Credits: 41 · by **Cobotron** » Sun May 01, 2016 12:23 pm

ScottyP wrote:
shajaki wrote:In my town "Breakout Battle", "Autobots United", and "Dinobots Unleashed" all disappeared fast.
You know, these were online only here in the US, but I think Breakout Battle was the only one that moved at regular price. Autobots United sold out quick, but only after HTS put it on clearance then had a 20% off coupon hit a couple weeks later. Dinobots Unleashed got clearanced hard by BBTS, one of its official channels for distribution.

Ya, I scooped the Dinos Unleashed for 50% off from BBTS around Xmas time last year.

I guess my perspective on the Platinums is skewed because all the set's I've bought have been at a discount.

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Sun May 01, 2016 1:03 pm

Cobotron wrote:
ScottyP wrote:
shajaki wrote:In my town "Breakout Battle", "Autobots United", and "Dinobots Unleashed" all disappeared fast.
You know, these were online only here in the US, but I think Breakout Battle was the only one that moved at regular price. Autobots United sold out quick, but only after HTS put it on clearance then had a 20% off coupon hit a couple weeks later. Dinobots Unleashed got clearanced hard by BBTS, one of its official channels for distribution.
Ya, I scooped the Dinos Unleashed for 50% off from BBTS around Xmas time last year.

I guess my perspective on the Platinums is skewed because all the set's I've bought have been at a discount.

What I find funny is that the only ones that actually sold well are the ones supposedly hated (generally speaking) by the fandom :lol: