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Yeah, cause I give a rats ass about post count.


All I'm doing is clarifying that it was not a closed set like you so adamantly stated it was. I dunno whats so difficult to understand about that.


But I guess that since you typed "closed set" in all caps then you must be right and theres no other way around it.

TCWJoe wrote:

OptiMagnus10 wrote:Wow this is pretty scary. Prayers for the drivers of the vehicles involved. As for the Camaro, Gm can whip up another.

Why wait, I can drive to the Chevy dealer up he road and get Bumblebees twin brother right now. Hell I can get a red one too and call it Cliffjumper too.

You do realize General Motors custom builds these cars specifically for the movie don't you? This is not a standard stock Camaro. They use a more powerful engine in this one I believe. Also, the front fascia, hood, rear fascia, rear quarter panels, exhaust, wheels, and the rear spoiler are all custom modifications from GM. So it is NOT THE SAME CAR as the one at your local dealer.

OptiMagnus10 wrote:

TCWJoe wrote:

OptiMagnus10 wrote:Wow this is pretty scary. Prayers for the drivers of the vehicles involved. As for the Camaro, Gm can whip up another.

Why wait, I can drive to the Chevy dealer up he road and get Bumblebees twin brother right now. Hell I can get a red one too and call it Cliffjumper too.

You do realize General Motors custom builds these cars specifically for the movie don't you? This is not a standard stock Camaro. They use a more powerful engine in this one I believe. Also, the front fascia, hood, rear fascia, rear quarter panels, exhaust, wheels, and the rear spoiler are all custom modifications from GM. So it is NOT THE SAME CAR as the one at your local dealer.

Most likely GM provides the base body for the vehicle and any paint and body work is done either in house by paramount or by another company such as George Barris (used to build mny custom vehicles for movies and tv shows. Much like how the original concept camaro car for bumblebee in the first movie was built by Saleen.

Things like the stamped autobot symbol on ironhide wouldnt be gone at gm.

Robinson wrote:Yeah, cause I give a rats ass about post count.


All I'm doing is clarifying that it was not a closed set like you so adamantly stated it was. I dunno whats so difficult to understand about that.


But I guess that since you typed "closed set" in all caps then you must be right and theres no other way around it.

It takes just a minimal amount of Common Sense to see that it is a closed set with a Semi Truck, Emergency Rescue Vehicle, Pickup Truck, Camaro, and Ferrari racing down the street. Otherwise there would have been much much more than 1 accident on the set. Then you come in a start to peel apart what I said and put in "well it cant be a closed set because people were walking around". Come on man I was so far away from talking about people on the set that it wasn't funny. Seriously. We aren't talking about people running into each other on the street we are talking about Cars. If it wasn't a Closed set then what by your definition was it then. If cars are not allowed to drive on the set then it is a Closed Set.

No its a closed road.


Like it was stated earlier, the cop chose the most direct route to its destination, movie set or not he was allowed to do that.


Theres differences between closed set, open set, limited access and things like that. All I was doing is clarifying that it was not a fully closed set. If that was the case there would be no fan footage of this crash at the distance it was.

Some of the other video that was shot shows that the prime truck had just started moving down the street within about 30 seconds of the crash. From the officers view there was no ferrari and camaro racing down the street, he saw the big rig approaching, veered out of the way of it and in turn ended up hitting the camaro.

Robinson is right. A closed set wouldn't have anyone but cast and crew on it. Yes, roads were closed down, but if there's still people there who aren't working on the movie, it's not a closed set.

While we're at it,

kenm2474 wrote:It takes just a minimal amount of Common Sense to see that it is a closed set with a Semi Truck, Emergency Rescue Vehicle, Pickup Truck, Camaro, and Ferrari racing down the street.

I don't know where you live, but where I'm from, if you see a bunch of cars driving down the street, you do not immediately think "This is a closed set and I'm not supposed to drive here!"

Shadowman wrote:Robinson is right. A closed set wouldn't have anyone but cast and crew on it. Yes, roads were closed down, but if there's still people there who aren't working on the movie, it's not a closed set.

While we're at it,

kenm2474 wrote:It takes just a minimal amount of Common Sense to see that it is a closed set with a Semi Truck, Emergency Rescue Vehicle, Pickup Truck, Camaro, and Ferrari racing down the street.

I don't know where you live, but where I'm from, if you see a bunch of cars driving down the street, you do not immediately think "This is a closed set and I'm not supposed to drive here!"

As D.C. has stated in numerous radio and television shows. They are filming a movie in their city. I am quite positive that they have said where as well. So you with your "but where I'm from, if you see a bunch of cars driving down the street, you do not immediately think "This is a closed set and I'm not supposed to drive here!" probably be one of the accidents on the Closed Set.

Was Shia driving?

kenm2474 wrote:As D.C. has stated in numerous radio and television shows. They are filming a movie in their city. I am quite positive that they have said where as well. So you with your "but where I'm from, if you see a bunch of cars driving down the street, you do not immediately think "This is a closed set and I'm not supposed to drive here!" probably be one of the accidents on the Closed Set.

A few problems with that:

1. It assumes the cop listens to entertainment news.

2. It assumes this was actually a closed set, which we have confirmed it was not. (Which is why the cop was able to drive in, and why there were people who aren't in the cast or crew there)

3. It assumes the news stories detailed that exact street and times each vehicle would be there.

4. It assumes the cop was not in a rush to investigate a bomb threat.

Okay and all anyone notice in one of the videos optimus is pulling a trailer

Shadowman wrote:A few problems with that:

1. It assumes the cop listens to entertainment news.

2. It assumes this was actually a closed set, which we have confirmed it was not. (Which is why the cop was able to drive in, and why there were people who aren't in the cast or crew there)

3. It assumes the news stories detailed that exact street and times each vehicle would be there.

4. It assumes the cop was not in a rush to investigate a bomb threat.

While all this is true, and it was not a fully closed set as evident by random people around the sets, there were police present to close the streets to civilian traffic. Thats the only way the production crew could film any vehicle scenes. In the news interview, it was said that there were Police to provide traffic control as well as crowd control but there were on a different radio channel. This makes sense since you don't want the main dispatch channel fluttered with traffic control for the movie.
Not sure how DC police work, but when large events like this take place, the local police force is usually always briefed so to be aware of roads/streets that might be closed, or subject to heavier traffic flow than normal due to those road closures. In this case, either..

1.- The officer was never briefed..

2.- The perimeter for where they were shooting the movie was never clearly marked off...

3.- He saw an opening and figured he take a chance.

As i said before, running with lights and siren does not automatically give the officer right of way. It is still his responsibility to make sure an intersection is clear before entering against a red light (which they said he had).

Either way local law enforcement was notified and present for the filming. This allows the the film crew to operate for the most part without interference. unfortunately, things slip and accidents happen. Luckily, no one was hurt.

man that sux, Glad that everyone is ok but dude what the heck someone obviously didn't see barricades, police, ambulence i think the officer needs to go back to training

WhateverIsNeccesary wrote:Okay and all anyone notice in one of the videos optimus is pulling a trailer

lol welcome to 6 months ago.

I think that Camaro will be worth 3 times the amount of a loaded Camaro SS at an auction to a true Transformers fan as is. plus all the news footage of that car.

UnBeetleBle wrote:I think that Camaro will be worth 3 times the amount of a loaded Camaro SS at an auction to a true Transformers fan as is. plus all the news footage of that car.

Haha. You would think so, but one of the Sector 7 desert buggies (aka Landmine) from the first movie was sold on ebay about seven or eight months ago and only went for like $1000. I didn't have the cash to spare at the time or it would have been mine. The dude wanted like $8000 for each of the other two he had for some crazy reason. The '70s BB Camero went for around $3500 a couple years ago on there.

Just visit your local junkyards in a couple weeks, DC people, anything is possible!

The cop should have avoided the set like a minefield. I don't know what the city will let them do, but there's a good chance there are pyrotechnics, debris, and other vehicles there. It may have been the most direct, but it's the riskiest route also.

plot from a bad movie? i wish it was IN the script. i mean whatever happened to Barricade? unless that part of the movie was a glitch...

anybody thought yet that this mad max style truck could be something from the past and comes into the future, like jetfire from rotf, seeings as this film is gonna be set in two time zones

Good thing that police SUV is hella strong with the nerf bar on the grill. Speedy recovery to him.

As for Bee...tsk tsk...Plastic Fantastic strikes again.

Earthshine wrote:Good thing that police SUV is hella strong with the nerf bar on the grill. Speedy recovery to him.

As for Bee...tsk tsk...Plastic Fantastic strikes again.

Except it didn't hit the nerf bar. And plastic has nothing to do with it, the front of the camaro is steel, other than the lower bumper, exactly the same as every car on the market for the past 30 years. The suv also has plastic in places, it also happens to be a chevy too.

Don't judge cars unless you turn wrenches.

Liftgate wrote:

Earthshine wrote:Good thing that police SUV is hella strong with the nerf bar on the grill. Speedy recovery to him.

As for Bee...tsk tsk...Plastic Fantastic strikes again.

Except it didn't hit the nerf bar. And plastic has nothing to do with it, the front of the camaro is steel, other than the lower bumper, exactly the same as every car on the market for the past 30 years. The suv also has plastic in places, it also happens to be a chevy too.

Don't judge cars unless you turn wrenches.

And, as I said, police vehicles are much more durable than civilian vehicles.

I just had a thought. Is it kind of odd to make a bomb threat on a Michael Bay movie? I mean, is anyone going to notice? "Keep making this movie and I'll set off a bomb." "This is a Michael Bay movie. We set off fifteen bombs daily. You're going to need to be more specific."

Shadowman wrote:

Liftgate wrote:

Earthshine wrote:Good thing that police SUV is hella strong with the nerf bar on the grill. Speedy recovery to him.

As for Bee...tsk tsk...Plastic Fantastic strikes again.

Except it didn't hit the nerf bar. And plastic has nothing to do with it, the front of the camaro is steel, other than the lower bumper, exactly the same as every car on the market for the past 30 years. The suv also has plastic in places, it also happens to be a chevy too.

Don't judge cars unless you turn wrenches.

And, as I said, police vehicles are much more durable than civilian vehicles.

I just had a thought. Is it kind of odd to make a bomb threat on a Michael Bay movie? I mean, is anyone going to notice? "Keep making this movie and I'll set off a bomb." "This is a Michael Bay movie. We set off fifteen bombs daily. You're going to need to be more specific."

From what I understand the bomd threat wasnt on set. The cop just chose to drive thru the set to get to the threat.

Robinson wrote:From what I understand the bomd threat wasnt on set. The cop just chose to drive thru the set to get to the threat.

See, I was working on the assumption that the bomb threat was on set. Now that I know it wasn't, I think the cop is more of an idiot.

Shadowman wrote:

Robinson wrote:From what I understand the bomd threat wasnt on set. The cop just chose to drive thru the set to get to the threat.

See, I was working on the assumption that the bomb threat was on set. Now that I know it wasn't, I think the cop is more of an idiot.

Its just a case of the cop trying to take the fastest route possible to get to the destination. I read something that allows DC police to do that.

This is mainly just a case of multiple miscommunications between the Police on set and the field officers.

Looks like barricade finally came back from the dead, and enacted revenge upon bee

No, seriously though I hope the cop is okay.