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Randomhero wrote:I never figured they'd have the same kind of spark type due to the fact that identical twins can have different blood types. Especially since forged sparks apparently "grow" I'd figure minimus was small like his name and Dominus was big like his name.
I'm just not convinced he's Roller. I feel that's a story that needs Optimus guest starring or even ratchet. Nobody else has a relationship with him. Skids was with Orion's team with roller but skids doesn't have memories of that time. He doesn't know who roller is and I don't think Rodimus's jump to past to say "hi" essentially counts as a relationship to roller.
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Randomhero wrote:I never figured they'd have the same kind of spark type due to the fact that identical twins can have different blood types. Especially since forged sparks apparently "grow" I'd figure minimus was small like his name and Dominus was big like his name.
I'm just not convinced he's Roller. I feel that's a story that needs Optimus guest starring or even ratchet. Nobody else has a relationship with him. Skids was with Orion's team with roller but skids doesn't have memories of that time. He doesn't know who roller is and I don't think Rodimus's jump to past to say "hi" essentially counts as a relationship to roller.
I can see the first part of your answer. I have been assuming that they both are the same load-bearers. they could possibly not be both load bearers.
now as for the second part: I agree. Roller is just too obvious. and yeah, Skids may be the only one who can be said to have a relationship with Roller, but the memory thing makes things tricky.
Randomhero wrote:D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Randomhero wrote:I never figured they'd have the same kind of spark type due to the fact that identical twins can have different blood types. Especially since forged sparks apparently "grow" I'd figure minimus was small like his name and Dominus was big like his name.
I'm just not convinced he's Roller. I feel that's a story that needs Optimus guest starring or even ratchet. Nobody else has a relationship with him. Skids was with Orion's team with roller but skids doesn't have memories of that time. He doesn't know who roller is and I don't think Rodimus's jump to past to say "hi" essentially counts as a relationship to roller.
I can see the first part of your answer. I have been assuming that they both are the same load-bearers. they could possibly not be both load bearers.
now as for the second part: I agree. Roller is just too obvious. and yeah, Skids may be the only one who can be said to have a relationship with Roller, but the memory thing makes things tricky.
It feels like Tarns reveal needs to not just be for fans. It needs to be for the audience in the book as well.
If it's Roller, whose that for? A bunch. Guys that shared one miner adventure with him and one character saying "Roller? Wasn't that Primes buddy from 4 ,ill ion years ago?!" Doesn't leave much of an impact with the groups. Fan? Yes, the characters in he book? No, not really.
Dominus Ambus. That does have repracusions for Rewind, Chromedome and Magnus.
Senator Proteus. That has repracusions for everyone. Everyone knew who he was, everyone kind of hated him because he was the physical empbidment of corrupted Cybertron. I can everyone in the book shocked about that since everyone thinks he's been dead since the war started.
I can see both Dominus and Proteus just because they both can leave an impact with the group.
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:I'm not gonna say that Proteus is not an option, but this is something can never be resolved until that mask comes off
LE0KING wrote:Randomhero wrote:D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Randomhero wrote:I never figured they'd have the same kind of spark type due to the fact that identical twins can have different blood types. Especially since forged sparks apparently "grow" I'd figure minimus was small like his name and Dominus was big like his name.
I'm just not convinced he's Roller. I feel that's a story that needs Optimus guest starring or even ratchet. Nobody else has a relationship with him. Skids was with Orion's team with roller but skids doesn't have memories of that time. He doesn't know who roller is and I don't think Rodimus's jump to past to say "hi" essentially counts as a relationship to roller.
I can see the first part of your answer. I have been assuming that they both are the same load-bearers. they could possibly not be both load bearers.
now as for the second part: I agree. Roller is just too obvious. and yeah, Skids may be the only one who can be said to have a relationship with Roller, but the memory thing makes things tricky.
It feels like Tarns reveal needs to not just be for fans. It needs to be for the audience in the book as well.
If it's Roller, whose that for? A bunch. Guys that shared one miner adventure with him and one character saying "Roller? Wasn't that Primes buddy from 4 ,ill ion years ago?!" Doesn't leave much of an impact with the groups. Fan? Yes, the characters in he book? No, not really.
Dominus Ambus. That does have repracusions for Rewind, Chromedome and Magnus.
Senator Proteus. That has repracusions for everyone. Everyone knew who he was, everyone kind of hated him because he was the physical empbidment of corrupted Cybertron. I can everyone in the book shocked about that since everyone thinks he's been dead since the war started.
I can see both Dominus and Proteus just because they both can leave an impact with the group.
Proteus is essentially a nobody. If the mask comes off and it's him the vast majority of the fandom will go "who?" He's a background character who's name doesn't carry enough weight for Tarn's big reveal.
Randomhero wrote: oh I disagree. fans of IDW and mostly MTMTE know exactly who Proteus is. Hes one of the main reasons Megtron is who is and what he became and he is the reason Shockwave became what he was. He was the main villain in Chaos Theory's flashbacks and Shadow Play. Proteus holds plenty of weight because he is one main people who was responsible for the war starting.
He's like the emperor in Star Wars. He is not required to show up in panel all the time, his presence is felt.
Leonardo wrote:Take your lips off my pipe!
Ironhidensh wrote:Well, that was an increasingly disapointing issue.![]()
1984forever wrote:If I had to spend money to read MTMTE #51 I would feel ripped off right now. A good portion of the story was wasted debating on what to do with the Necrobot's meat locker. The most disturbing part of the book was not Milne's decision to continue drawing Rodimus as a fembot, but Roberts putting in a letters page so people could heap praises upon his fanfic and talk about how it saved their life
Dr Va'al wrote:Ironhidensh wrote:Well, that was an increasingly disapointing issue.![]()
How so? I'm intrigued.
Leonardo wrote:Take your lips off my pipe!
Ironhidensh wrote:Dr Va'al wrote:Ironhidensh wrote:Well, that was an increasingly disapointing issue.![]()
How so? I'm intrigued.
I'll give you a good post, worthy of you, later. I'll need free time when I'm off of work, plus we need to let the foul taste of 1984s post Leave our mouths.
Randomhero wrote:Ironhidensh wrote:Dr Va'al wrote:Ironhidensh wrote:Well, that was an increasingly disapointing issue.![]()
How so? I'm intrigued.
I'll give you a good post, worthy of you, later. I'll need free time when I'm off of work, plus we need to let the foul taste of 1984s post Leave our mouths.
I think it's a strong 4. It's not perfect and personally I can see where some people would be a little disappointed with it. It's very 'standing around with a mcguffin that can get us all out of here but we're staying and going to die. Why? Because'
Reason I say that is because Megatrons speech about organics is a little bit contradictory to how the Cybertronians have been portrayed in IDW. At the beginning with the -ation series it very much stated that organic life is not important to the autobots or Decepticons. The infiltration protocol for the autobots was "try and stop the decepticons" TRY. Optimus during escalation even says they may not be able to save earth. Their duty is to stop the decepticons but if they can't, then they bail out and try another time on another planet. We saw the wreckers even bail out and consider a planet a lost cause. One of Optimus most memorable and controversial lines in Simons run was "earth will have to fend for itself" it wasn't till the end of all hail megatron for Optimus to realize they need to change their outlook and we saw that in costas run, not everyone shared his feelings about working with and helping organics. We still are seeing that in johns book.
Personally I wasn't comvinced that everyone would share that idea of saving 60 organics because right now they still think they're all going to die when they decide to stay. By that point they're not saving anyone. Honestly the DJD were already in the nectobots home and didn't find that room, they could just lock it up and hope they don't find it and leave, it was buried pretty deep.
Randomhero wrote:And I totally respect yours and Scottys thoughts. As I said I did enjoy this book. And I think for past couple reviews you guys can tell that if I have a problem, unlike some people, I will explain very thoroughly why I have a problem and am totally willing to hear anyone defense on it.
Great review by the way as always. Sorry I didn't say that early
Dr Va'al wrote:Randomhero wrote:And I totally respect yours and Scottys thoughts. As I said I did enjoy this book. And I think for past couple reviews you guys can tell that if I have a problem, unlike some people, I will explain very thoroughly why I have a problem and am totally willing to hear anyone defense on it.
Great review by the way as always. Sorry I didn't say that early
I never look for the compliments, no need to apologise! I enjoy the chats we're allowed to have in these forums once comics come out. Sitting on the review copy since the previous Friday is hard, as it's usually me, ScottyP and one other person's thoughts we keep bouncing around.
So thank you for taking the time to type out thoughts longform, it is much appreciated, and makes the comics work on the site all the more worth it.
I had three moments, at least, on my third read, that still made me feel things. That has not happened in a while with this book (last time was Pipes, Chromedome, Rewind, Overlord issues, or maybe Ratchet's goodbyes), and I think it fully deserved me recognising those moments.
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