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Ironhidensh wrote:Megatron needs to stop being a coward.
SW's SilverHammer wrote:I know the cover don't necessarily relate to the events of the story (though in this instance it most likely does) i'm willing to guess the flower's Velocity. Also on a separate note, aesthetically and historically, I would've found red poppies more poignant than blue lilies. However that might've been on the nose
Dr Va'al wrote:SW's SilverHammer wrote:I know the cover don't necessarily relate to the events of the story (though in this instance it most likely does) i'm willing to guess the flower's Velocity. Also on a separate note, aesthetically and historically, I would've found red poppies more poignant than blue lilies. However that might've been on the nose
Red poppies can sod right off.
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:So now the whole story begins to fall into place.
The Galactic Counsel hates Megatron since he is now doing their job of protecting organics whereas he used to hate them. The council fears being replaced, so they rebuild Overlord to kill Megatron, teaming up with Getaway, who puts the mutiny into action. He removes Rodimus and company with the thought that the council only promised to kill Megatron and the others would live. So he's not the total slimeball he's come off as, but he still is slime. Then Tarn shows up somehow (Beginning to wonder about that, coincidence or not. Getaway should know the DJD wouldn't spare the Autobots) but the council is ok with this since they want him dead too. But the council has no intent of letting the other Autobots live. Maybe they arranged for the DJD to attack and summon Megatron there then unleash Overlord, but weren't expecting Deathsaurus' group? I'm not sure about that.
And then, Megatron has Trailcutter's forcefields, enabling him to use the panic bubble to save himself. And of course, Deathsaurus is about to have a conscience attack courtesy of Rewind and Swerve, spurring him into Defending Megatron.
Kurona wrote:So now it makes sense! It feels a bit easier now knowing that Perceptor and everyone else thought it'd just be the Galactic Council sending agents to kill Megatron. The DJD just happened to be there too.
Now I can rest easy knowing Blaster and Perceptor aren't that dickish.
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Kurona wrote:So now it makes sense! It feels a bit easier now knowing that Perceptor and everyone else thought it'd just be the Galactic Council sending agents to kill Megatron. The DJD just happened to be there too.
Now I can rest easy knowing Blaster and Perceptor aren't that dickish.
That is true.
But that is also what leads to my confusion. Why are the DJD there then, if they weren't Getaway's plan to begin with, especially since they provided the way to get Megatron off the ship? That whole part is not clicking for me yet
Kurona wrote:D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Kurona wrote:So now it makes sense! It feels a bit easier now knowing that Perceptor and everyone else thought it'd just be the Galactic Council sending agents to kill Megatron. The DJD just happened to be there too.
Now I can rest easy knowing Blaster and Perceptor aren't that dickish.
That is true.
But that is also what leads to my confusion. Why are the DJD there then, if they weren't Getaway's plan to begin with, especially since they provided the way to get Megatron off the ship? That whole part is not clicking for me yet
Yeah, that is the one little thing; especially since they had a base set up and everything. Mystery abounds...
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Kurona wrote:D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Kurona wrote:So now it makes sense! It feels a bit easier now knowing that Perceptor and everyone else thought it'd just be the Galactic Council sending agents to kill Megatron. The DJD just happened to be there too.
Now I can rest easy knowing Blaster and Perceptor aren't that dickish.
That is true.
But that is also what leads to my confusion. Why are the DJD there then, if they weren't Getaway's plan to begin with, especially since they provided the way to get Megatron off the ship? That whole part is not clicking for me yet
Yeah, that is the one little thing; especially since they had a base set up and everything. Mystery abounds...
Actually, a thought: They have been tracking down the ship right? They even said that they couldn't catch the Lost Light. So they attacked Necroworld by themselves, and when Rodimus and Megatron decided to investigate, Getaway used that as the opportunity to mutiny. The mutiny was set, they just needed the chance for the captains to leave, and they did, so the trap was sprung, without anyone realizing that the DJD were there.
That helps me make some sense of things
Kurona wrote:D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Kurona wrote:D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Kurona wrote:So now it makes sense! It feels a bit easier now knowing that Perceptor and everyone else thought it'd just be the Galactic Council sending agents to kill Megatron. The DJD just happened to be there too.
Now I can rest easy knowing Blaster and Perceptor aren't that dickish.
That is true.
But that is also what leads to my confusion. Why are the DJD there then, if they weren't Getaway's plan to begin with, especially since they provided the way to get Megatron off the ship? That whole part is not clicking for me yet
Yeah, that is the one little thing; especially since they had a base set up and everything. Mystery abounds...
Actually, a thought: They have been tracking down the ship right? They even said that they couldn't catch the Lost Light. So they attacked Necroworld by themselves, and when Rodimus and Megatron decided to investigate, Getaway used that as the opportunity to mutiny. The mutiny was set, they just needed the chance for the captains to leave, and they did, so the trap was sprung, without anyone realizing that the DJD were there.
That helps me make some sense of things
Yeah; that, and reading on TFWiki reminds me that Tarn broadcast the signal as a lure. And maybe there wasn't an arranged place for Getaway to drop them off, it just happened to be the Necroplanet - and that's why it took so long for Overlord to get there!
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Kurona wrote:D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Kurona wrote:So now it makes sense! It feels a bit easier now knowing that Perceptor and everyone else thought it'd just be the Galactic Council sending agents to kill Megatron. The DJD just happened to be there too.
Now I can rest easy knowing Blaster and Perceptor aren't that dickish.
That is true.
But that is also what leads to my confusion. Why are the DJD there then, if they weren't Getaway's plan to begin with, especially since they provided the way to get Megatron off the ship? That whole part is not clicking for me yet
Yeah, that is the one little thing; especially since they had a base set up and everything. Mystery abounds...
Actually, a thought: They have been tracking down the ship right? They even said that they couldn't catch the Lost Light. So they attacked Necroworld by themselves, and when Rodimus and Megatron decided to investigate, Getaway used that as the opportunity to mutiny. The mutiny was set, they just needed the chance for the captains to leave, and they did, so the trap was sprung, without anyone realizing that the DJD were there.
That helps me make some sense of things
MrBlack wrote:My guess would be that Overlord was the one who killed the Necrobot and set up the distress call to lure the Autobots to him. It makes the original plan fit together: The Galactic Council agrees to take care of Megatron; they send their agent, Overlord, to send a distress signal that they know the Lost Light will respond to; the Necrobot modifies the distress signal to warn them away (which doesn't work); the crew makes sure that Megatron and his supporters are the ones to go on the mission; Overlord kills Megatron. There was no reason for the DJD to kill the Necrobot because he was a pre-war neutral (which is why they did not bother him when they first found him). The method of the Necrobot's death also points to Overlord, him being a sadist and all.
As to why the DJD showed up, that is a mystery. The Galactic Council certainly isn't happy about it, and neither is Getaway if his concern for the rest of the crew is sincere.
Off-hand, I wonder if Getaway knew that the Galactic Council would send Overlord. I would guess the answer is "no" if he expected the rest of the crew to survive the encounter.
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Sorry, just really thinking, and a bit confused
Kurona wrote:MrBlack wrote:My guess would be that Overlord was the one who killed the Necrobot and set up the distress call to lure the Autobots to him. It makes the original plan fit together: The Galactic Council agrees to take care of Megatron; they send their agent, Overlord, to send a distress signal that they know the Lost Light will respond to; the Necrobot modifies the distress signal to warn them away (which doesn't work); the crew makes sure that Megatron and his supporters are the ones to go on the mission; Overlord kills Megatron. There was no reason for the DJD to kill the Necrobot because he was a pre-war neutral (which is why they did not bother him when they first found him). The method of the Necrobot's death also points to Overlord, him being a sadist and all.
As to why the DJD showed up, that is a mystery. The Galactic Council certainly isn't happy about it, and neither is Getaway if his concern for the rest of the crew is sincere.
Off-hand, I wonder if Getaway knew that the Galactic Council would send Overlord. I would guess the answer is "no" if he expected the rest of the crew to survive the encounter.
Only problem with that theory is that it was stated the DJD attacked the Necrobot and sent out the fake distress signal to lure the Lost Lighters.
MrBlack wrote:Kurona wrote:MrBlack wrote:My guess would be that Overlord was the one who killed the Necrobot and set up the distress call to lure the Autobots to him. It makes the original plan fit together: The Galactic Council agrees to take care of Megatron; they send their agent, Overlord, to send a distress signal that they know the Lost Light will respond to; the Necrobot modifies the distress signal to warn them away (which doesn't work); the crew makes sure that Megatron and his supporters are the ones to go on the mission; Overlord kills Megatron. There was no reason for the DJD to kill the Necrobot because he was a pre-war neutral (which is why they did not bother him when they first found him). The method of the Necrobot's death also points to Overlord, him being a sadist and all.
As to why the DJD showed up, that is a mystery. The Galactic Council certainly isn't happy about it, and neither is Getaway if his concern for the rest of the crew is sincere.
Off-hand, I wonder if Getaway knew that the Galactic Council would send Overlord. I would guess the answer is "no" if he expected the rest of the crew to survive the encounter.
Only problem with that theory is that it was stated the DJD attacked the Necrobot and sent out the fake distress signal to lure the Lost Lighters.
Well, there is that conjecture on the wiki, but I'm not sure it has been made clear in the book itself who attacked the Necrobot. I am inclined to think it was the DJD at this point, but the full circumstances have not been made clear yet.
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:MrBlack wrote:Kurona wrote:MrBlack wrote:My guess would be that Overlord was the one who killed the Necrobot and set up the distress call to lure the Autobots to him. It makes the original plan fit together: The Galactic Council agrees to take care of Megatron; they send their agent, Overlord, to send a distress signal that they know the Lost Light will respond to; the Necrobot modifies the distress signal to warn them away (which doesn't work); the crew makes sure that Megatron and his supporters are the ones to go on the mission; Overlord kills Megatron. There was no reason for the DJD to kill the Necrobot because he was a pre-war neutral (which is why they did not bother him when they first found him). The method of the Necrobot's death also points to Overlord, him being a sadist and all.
As to why the DJD showed up, that is a mystery. The Galactic Council certainly isn't happy about it, and neither is Getaway if his concern for the rest of the crew is sincere.
Off-hand, I wonder if Getaway knew that the Galactic Council would send Overlord. I would guess the answer is "no" if he expected the rest of the crew to survive the encounter.
Only problem with that theory is that it was stated the DJD attacked the Necrobot and sent out the fake distress signal to lure the Lost Lighters.
Well, there is that conjecture on the wiki, but I'm not sure it has been made clear in the book itself who attacked the Necrobot. I am inclined to think it was the DJD at this point, but the full circumstances have not been made clear yet.
But consider this: If it was Overlord who set the trap, wouldn't he have arrived sooner or actually been at the fortress to greet Megatron and kill him there?
MrBlack wrote:D-Maximus_Primal wrote:MrBlack wrote:Kurona wrote:Only problem with that theory is that it was stated the DJD attacked the Necrobot and sent out the fake distress signal to lure the Lost Lighters.
Well, there is that conjecture on the wiki, but I'm not sure it has been made clear in the book itself who attacked the Necrobot. I am inclined to think it was the DJD at this point, but the full circumstances have not been made clear yet.
But consider this: If it was Overlord who set the trap, wouldn't he have arrived sooner or actually been at the fortress to greet Megatron and kill him there?
Read my post.
I am just pointing out that the solution isn't quite clear yet, as I do not recall Tarn or anyone else taking responsibility for killing the Necrobot or sending the distress signal in the comic, even though I think that theory is likely correct.
MrBlack wrote:On another topic: What's in the box???
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