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UNSC Marine wrote:Stryker and Jax have guns,that any MK ninja can take a couple blasts of, something not included in Naruto. If Sonya was just a normal person she would not have been in the first MK tournament, or be part the OIA (Outer World Investigation Agency) and have Secial Forces Training. MK ninjas don't need portals to oblivion they can fight hand-to-hand.

The gun argument would ALMOST be effective, if The Joker didn't already disprove it.

Yes, they are normal humans. You don't need to be Superhuman to be in Special Forces. You don't need to be superhuman to fight in Mortal Kombat because the requirements aren't exactly high. Perhaps they don't need something like Kakashi's Kamui, or maybe they're just to weak to use it?

Ah, yes but that is a Fatality, and if that applies Noob can kill anyone with a Shuriken Barrage.

UNSC Marine wrote:Ah, yes but that is a Fatality, and if that applies Noob can kill anyone with a Shuriken Barrage.

No, he can't. Shurikens have been useless against Naruto characters for a good long while now.

Ok, but I was just disproving your gun thing.

Since when does waring bright colors and shouting (what you're about to do before you do it, no less) count as being a ninja? A ninja by deffinition is a silent assasin, being hired out and stabbing dignitaries in their sleep, if they were all truly ninja, whoever would sleep first would lose, and besides, who did the protagonists of that naruto thing ever kill anyway? Mortal Kombat characters kill eachother all the time.

tobiax wrote:Since when does waring bright colors and shouting (what you're about to do before you do it, no less) count as being a ninja? A ninja by deffinition is a silent assasin, being hired out and stabbing dignitaries in their sleep, if they were all truly ninja, whoever would sleep first would lose

By that definition, no one involved in this fight is a ninja. Unless "GET OVER HERE" counts as being silent?

tobiax wrote:and besides, who did the protagonists of that naruto thing ever kill anyway? Mortal Kombat characters kill eachother all the time.

Naruto is a Shonen Jump series. People die. Off the top of my head, Zabuza, Haku, the five members of Akatsuki, any antogonist in the movies, Orochimaru, and hordes and hordes of filler villains. I think so far the only person to die and come back was Kakashi.

That said, who has died and stayed dead in Mortal Kombat?

Sure is weeaboo in this thread.

Scorpion is a former Champion of the Elder Gods. He is also been the ruler of the Underworld which is MK's version of Hell and is a fire elemental. Sub-zero is the latest in a long line of Cryomancers. Specifically being their prodigy. Rain is a prince of his world and one of the fiercest fighters of his people. He can control the **** weather after all. Reptile is the last living male of his race. He's not a human, but a lizard man that is faster and more agile then most humans. He also secretes an acidic poison that can dissolve flesh and bone. Noob is a shadow wraith (meaning he's only solid when he feels like it), a darkness elemental, and the original Sub-Zero. Ermac was a weapon of mass destruction created by Shao Khan from a collective of souls that he's taken. It was deemed so powerful that it was sealed away. Chameleon? He's able to use all of their various skills and abilities at once.

They also have one major advantage over all of the other Naruto fighters other than one. They're all Ninja Masters, and not Ninja in training. Only Guy/Might Gai is a full Ninja Master. And he will only kill as a last resort. All of the other Naruto ninja also will only kill as a last resort. And they're up against an army of ninja who behave like real ninja, are vastly more powerful, and more importantly are pefectly willing to slaughter the entire other team. It's not a last resort move either. It's a 'drop your guard or I see an opening' move.

Mortal Kombat's Ninja's win. Flawless Victory. Fatality.

So like a whole buncha ninja masters with brutal powers and no compuction about killing the **** out of babies (BABALITY!), versus, what, children training to be ninjas? Am I right here? See also, Thomas Watt Hamilton versus small Scottish town.

Jeep? wrote:So like a whole buncha ninja masters with brutal powers and no compuction about killing the **** out of babies (BABALITY!), versus, what, children training to be ninjas? Am I right here? See also, Thomas Watt Hamilton versus small Scottish town.

That is an apt summary yes.

Loki God Of Mischief wrote:Sub-zero is the latest in a long line of Cryomancers. Specifically being their prodigy.

Yet he still can't hold a candle to Haku. And they killed Haku on their first mission.

Loki God Of Mischief wrote:Rain is a prince of his world and one of the fiercest fighters of his people. He can control the **** weather after all.

Oh, that would be interesting if there weren't a million and one of those in Naruto.

Loki God Of Mischief wrote:Reptile is the last living male of his race. He's not a human, but a lizard man that is faster and more agile then most humans.

Faster than most humans really applies to Rock Lee more than it does Reptile.

Loki God Of Mischief wrote:He also secretes an acidic poison that can dissolve flesh and bone.

Again, nothing out of the ordinary in Naruto.

Loki God Of Mischief wrote:Ermac was a weapon of mass destruction created by Shao Khan from a collective of souls that he's taken. It was deemed so powerful that it was sealed away.

Sounds a lot like the Tailed Beasts. Except so much less powerful. (The Nine Tails was considered a natural disaster)

Loki God Of Mischief wrote:And they're up against an army of ninja who behave like real ninja

Please, define "Ninja" because no one seems to have a definition that isn't totally contradictory to their own argument.

Loki God Of Mischief wrote:are vastly more powerful

No they aren't, we've established that.

Loki God Of Mischief wrote:Mortal Kombat's Ninja's win. Flawless Victory. Fatality.

No they don't.

Shadowman wrote:

Loki God Of Mischief wrote:Sub-zero is the latest in a long line of Cryomancers. Specifically being their prodigy.

1.Yet he still can't hold a candle to Haku. And they killed Haku on their first mission.

Loki God Of Mischief wrote:Rain is a prince of his world and one of the fiercest fighters of his people. He can control the **** weather after all.

2.Oh, that would be interesting if there weren't a million and one of those in Naruto.

Loki God Of Mischief wrote:Reptile is the last living male of his race. He's not a human, but a lizard man that is faster and more agile then most humans.

3.Faster than most humans really applies to Rock Lee more than it does Reptile.

Loki God Of Mischief wrote:He also secretes an acidic poison that can dissolve flesh and bone.

4.Again, nothing out of the ordinary in Naruto.

Loki God Of Mischief wrote:Ermac was a weapon of mass destruction created by Shao Khan from a collective of souls that he's taken. It was deemed so powerful that it was sealed away.

5.Sounds a lot like the Tailed Beasts. Except so much less powerful. (The Nine Tails was considered a natural disaster)

Loki God Of Mischief wrote:And they're up against an army of ninja who behave like real ninja

6.Please, define "Ninja" because no one seems to have a definition that isn't totally contradictory to their own argument.

Loki God Of Mischief wrote:are vastly more powerful

7.No they aren't, we've established that.

Loki God Of Mischief wrote:Mortal Kombat's Ninja's win. Flawless Victory. Fatality.

8.No they don't.

1.Haku was unintentionally killed, and no Sub-Zero wouldn't hold a candle to Haku he would be to busy ripping out Haku's spine.

2.Rain controls weather not water no one in naruto, since I last checked, contolled air, lightning, and water all at once and could beat you down and chop you up.

3.Keep telling yourself that pal.

4.You really didn't have a comeback so you made something up, right?

5.If Naruto dies before he uses the nine tails then...

6.Well neither really are ninjas, Noob maybe because he can go invisible and stuff.

7.Yes they are.

8.Yes they do.

P.S. I ended this at the gun thing remember(see top of page 3)

UNSC Marine wrote:

Shadowman wrote:

Loki God Of Mischief wrote:Sub-zero is the latest in a long line of Cryomancers. Specifically being their prodigy.

1.Yet he still can't hold a candle to Haku. And they killed Haku on their first mission.

Loki God Of Mischief wrote:Rain is a prince of his world and one of the fiercest fighters of his people. He can control the **** weather after all.

2.Oh, that would be interesting if there weren't a million and one of those in Naruto.

Loki God Of Mischief wrote:Reptile is the last living male of his race. He's not a human, but a lizard man that is faster and more agile then most humans.

3.Faster than most humans really applies to Rock Lee more than it does Reptile.

Loki God Of Mischief wrote:He also secretes an acidic poison that can dissolve flesh and bone.

4.Again, nothing out of the ordinary in Naruto.

Loki God Of Mischief wrote:Ermac was a weapon of mass destruction created by Shao Khan from a collective of souls that he's taken. It was deemed so powerful that it was sealed away.

5.Sounds a lot like the Tailed Beasts. Except so much less powerful. (The Nine Tails was considered a natural disaster)

Loki God Of Mischief wrote:And they're up against an army of ninja who behave like real ninja

6.Please, define "Ninja" because no one seems to have a definition that isn't totally contradictory to their own argument.

Loki God Of Mischief wrote:are vastly more powerful

7.No they aren't, we've established that.

Loki God Of Mischief wrote:Mortal Kombat's Ninja's win. Flawless Victory. Fatality.

8.No they don't.

1.Haku was unintentionally killed, and no Sub-Zero wouldn't hold a candle to Haku he would be to busy ripping out Haku's spine.

2.Rain controls weather not water no one in naruto, since I last checked, contolled air, lightning, and water all at once and could beat you down and chop you up.

3.Keep telling yourself that pal.

4.You really didn't have a comeback so you made something up, right?

5.If Naruto dies before he uses the nine tails then...

6.Well neither really are ninjas, Noob maybe because he can go invisible and stuff.

7.Yes they are.

8.Yes they do.

P.S. I ended this at the gun thing remember(see top of page 3)

1. Haku's abilitias are in his blood, you know? A keke genkai, Sub-zero would die before he can't even know what hit him

2. The sage of the six paths was able to control all the elements, and madara knows teletransportation and is inmortal

3. Rock is faster than Reptile, this is when he was a child: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfqljIxuFQ8 watch from 1:10 to the end. That's an example of Gaara's perfect defense and rock lee's speed

4. Gaara have the perfect defense

5. He now can summon the nine tales at will

6. Agreed, except for the fact that naruto's ninjas doesn't need stealth

7. No they are not

8. No they do not

9. Before sage mode: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuoxJZYM ... re=related

UNSC Marine wrote:1.Haku was unintentionally killed, and no Sub-Zero wouldn't hold a candle to Haku he would be to busy ripping out Haku's spine.

Yes and no. he used himself as a human shield to defend Zabuza against Kakashi's Lightning Cutter, but they were going to kill Haku anyway.

UNSC Marine wrote:2.Rain controls weather not water no one in naruto, since I last checked, contolled air, lightning, and water all at once and could beat you down and chop you up.

This makes perfect sense because it's painfully obvious you don't check. Nagato/Pain, the Sage of the Six Paths, anyone born with a Rinnengan (Which is pretty much just the last two at this point), and Kakuzu. It's also said most people have learned to control at least two elements by the time they hit Jonin Rank.

UNSC Marine wrote:3.Keep telling yourself that pal.

Okay, this is your argument? The kid (And he IS a kid) can practically flash-step, move faster than the human eye can process, and all you have is a sarcastic reply?

UNSC Marine wrote:4.You really didn't have a comeback so you made something up, right?

Katsuyu's acid slime and Utakata's Acid Permeation.

UNSC Marine wrote:5.If Naruto dies before he uses the nine tails then...

Then the Nine-Tails will release itself and kill everyone around it, unless someone around it knows how to seal Tailed beasts which is very unlikely. The Tailed beasts wouldn't even be a problem if all you needed to do was kill the host.

UNSC Marine wrote:6.Well neither really are ninjas, Noob maybe because he can go invisible and stuff.

Naruto has that one covered too.

UNSC Marine wrote:P.S. I ended this at the gun thing remember(see top of page 3)

No you didn't. You said MK characters are impervious to bullets, so I showed you the Joker's fatality, you said it didn't count and brought up a shuriken barrage, and I pointed out that most ranged weapons like shuriken and throwing daggers are useless in Naruto. So how did you end this?

And back to my last question, who has killed in Mortal Kombat? Follow up, who among the victims stayed dead?

Oh hell where to begin. Reptile isn't a human. He's Saurian. He moves much faster than any human could hope to. He can also turn invisible and blend into his surrounding. And depending on how "feral" he is he can also use techniques learned from simply watching other Ninja. It doesn't matter how fast Rock Lee can move, because Reptile is stated to move faster than any human in any of the realms and he can become invisible and move at the same rate. Rock Lee is retarded when it comes to any other form of ninjitsu other than hand to hand combat. Reptile would be considered to be the strongest of his race if he wasn't currently one of only 1-3 left alive.

Dude that posted in response to me and back me was 100% right about Rain. He doesn't just make it rain. That's his name. He literally controls the weather itself. One of his special moves is hitting you with a lightning bolt from the sky. And being able to control the elements is a lot different than being a master user of an element. Rain's weather manipulation is on par with Storm and Thor. That's before you take into consideration that he's a Prince of a society that's essentially a warrior caste. He's considered especially ruthless and underhanded for a ninja as well.

Gaara is a sand elemental right? His "perfect offense and defense"? Isn't going to do **** against a Hellfire elemental like Scorpion. Except get himself turned into glass and shattered. Scorpion can teleport between this world and the Underworld and come out where ever he feels like. The spear he throws isn't simply a spear on a rope. It's either an enchanted artifact or a biologically produced weapon that is demonic in nature. The Elder Gods in the Mortal Kombat Universe are incredibly powerful but barred from combat. Raiden the God of Thunder? Not an Elder God. Scorpion was chosen above Raiden as their champion and Guardian of Earthrealm. What do you think that speaks of the man's fighting abilities? Oh and there's the fact that he can't be killed because he's undead. There's also the fact that had he not been assassinated by the original Sub-Zero (Noob now) he was well on his way to becoming the Grandmaster of his clan. (Think Kage's in Naruto.)

Haku's power is genetic? Wow that's an edge. Or it would be if the same wasn't true for Sub-zero's direct bloodline or you know in the fight. He's technically a mutant too even among Cryomancers. The current one (not Noob as he's the original) is currently the Grandmaster of the Lin Kuei. That's the level of his fighting ability and ice manipulation. The way Haku used his powers would be considered parlor tricks by a Lin Kuei who was also a Cryomancer. Let alone the Grandmaster of the Lin Kuei and the most powerful Cryomancer to have lived at that point.

You know those Elder Gods that I already talked about? Shao Khan is related by blood to one. And is one of the single most powerful warlords in the Mortal Kombat Universe. He created Ermac as a doomsday weapon. A true weapon of mass destruction originally intended to wage war against the Elder Gods. But it had free will and was far too powerful to not be sealed away. Shao Khan, one of the most ruthless, powerful, and blood thirsty warlords in Mortal Kombat was afraid of what Ermac would do on his own with his power.

Noob Saibot has all of the training of the current Sub-Zero and was his elder brother. So he's potentially a Grandmaster level fighter of the Lin Kuei. He's also a high member of the Brotherhood of Shadow. Which is another clan. But this one takes residence in the Netherrealm. Which is Mortal Kombat's version of Hell. He's a Wraith. The same species as Scorpion. So that means that this man who is a Darkness/Shadow Elemental and has the training of two separate ninja clans with a very very high level of skill also can't be permanently killed. Also with his powers he can become intangible until he needs to attack someone.

And then there's Chameleon. A creature who even MK fans don't know much about. What's speculated (but hasn't been confirmed) is that Chameleon is of the same race as Reptile and the female Khameleon. Which if it's true means he can move as fast as Reptile but chooses not to. What is known is that Chameleon is far better at invisibility than any other character. He can remain silent and undetected by even Gods. Not even his breathing is loud enough to detect when he's invisible. In addition to this fact for an unknown reason (ability, trait, mutation, etc.) he is able to use all of the fighting styles and abilities of the male ninja in Mortal Kombat. This would suggest that simply from observing ninja fighting he can master their fighting styles. So really, that's terrible news for Team Naruto.

Stop bringing up other characters that aren't in this fight. MK fans aren't bringing up any of the female ninja or other characters in the MK universe other than citing examples of why the ninja in this fight are powerful. It doesn't matter what someone who isn't in this fight can do, unless someone in this fight beat them.

In the end this comes down to another thing as well. All of the ninja in this fight on Team Mortal Kombat bar Chameleon are Grandmaster or Grandmaster level fighters in at least one fighting style. Team Naruto? A bunch of kids in training and one of their teachers. Who incidentally could never be Hokage for the fact that he can't use 2/3rds of Ninja technique properly/at all. There's also the fact that Team Mortal Kombat are comprised by dyed in the wool killers. They have no qualms about killing a bunch of kids and a mouthy teacher. At all. But Team Naruto? They're the good guys and have morals. They'll only kill as a last resort. Meaning when they're desperate and scared. Aside from Gaara. Who as previously stated couldn't do a thing to hardly anyone on Team MK and is neutralized (if not outright beaten) by Scorpion.

Loki, rather than pick your tl;dr post apart piece by piece because it's late and I'm tired of having to explain that no one in MK has ever been shown doing anything on the scale of Naruto characters for the millionth time, I need to ask you this: how much of Naruto have you actually looked into when constructing your text wall?

Shadowman wrote:Loki, rather than pick your tl;dr post apart piece by piece because it's late and I'm tired of having to explain that no one in MK has ever been shown doing anything on the scale of Naruto characters for the millionth time, I need to ask you this: how much of Naruto have you actually looked into when constructing your text wall?

I have about 6-8 boxed sets of the anime before I got bored with it. I googled and wikied (the Naruto one, not Wikipedia) what was brought up that I didn't know about it. How much Mortal Kombat have you played? Cause I've played all of them but Gold and beaten them with every character. I was also looking **** up on the Mortal Kombat wiki to support my claims. How much research did you put into it?

Senor Hugo wrote:This makes Rock Lee, Batman with a Bowl Cut.

single funniest thing I have seen today

StarThunderWarp wrote:Sub-Zero, Scorpion, Rain, Chameleon, Ermac, Noob Saibot, and Reptile

VS

Naruto, Kakashi, Rock Lee, Sasuke, Neji, Might Gai, Kiba.


In a giant forest.

Just a reminder

P.S. MK WINS
FLAWLESS VICTORY
FATALITY

CONTINUE? INSERT 2 CREDITS

UNSC Marine wrote:

StarThunderWarp wrote:Sub-Zero, Scorpion, Rain, Chameleon, Ermac, Noob Saibot, and Reptile

VS

Naruto, Kakashi, Rock Lee, Sasuke, Neji, Might Gai, Kiba.


In a giant forest.

Just a reminder

P.S. MK WINS
FLAWLESS VICTORY
FATALITY

CONTINUE? INSERT 2 CREDITS

Just a reminder, we've already explained that no, MK doesn't win, they've never been shown performing anything on any level even remotely close to Naruto.

Shadowman wrote:
Just a reminder, we've already explained that no, MK doesn't win, they've never been shown performing anything on any level even remotely close to Naruto.

??? Did you read any of the posts on this page?

Loki God Of Mischief wrote:Oh hell where to begin. Reptile isn't a human. He's Saurian. He moves much faster than any human could hope to. He can also turn invisible and blend into his surrounding. And depending on how "feral" he is he can also use techniques learned from simply watching other Ninja. It doesn't matter how fast Rock Lee can move, because Reptile is stated to move faster than any human in any of the realms and he can become invisible and move at the same rate. Rock Lee is retarded when it comes to any other form of ninjitsu other than hand to hand combat. Reptile would be considered to be the strongest of his race if he wasn't currently one of only 1-3 left alive.

Dude that posted in response to me and back me was 100% right about Rain. He doesn't just make it rain. That's his name. He literally controls the weather itself. One of his special moves is hitting you with a lightning bolt from the sky. And being able to control the elements is a lot different than being a master user of an element. Rain's weather manipulation is on par with Storm and Thor. That's before you take into consideration that he's a Prince of a society that's essentially a warrior caste. He's considered especially ruthless and underhanded for a ninja as well.

Gaara is a sand elemental right? His "perfect offense and defense"? Isn't going to do **** against a Hellfire elemental like Scorpion. Except get himself turned into glass and shattered. Scorpion can teleport between this world and the Underworld and come out where ever he feels like. The spear he throws isn't simply a spear on a rope. It's either an enchanted artifact or a biologically produced weapon that is demonic in nature. The Elder Gods in the Mortal Kombat Universe are incredibly powerful but barred from combat. Raiden the God of Thunder? Not an Elder God. Scorpion was chosen above Raiden as their champion and Guardian of Earthrealm. What do you think that speaks of the man's fighting abilities? Oh and there's the fact that he can't be killed because he's undead. There's also the fact that had he not been assassinated by the original Sub-Zero (Noob now) he was well on his way to becoming the Grandmaster of his clan. (Think Kage's in Naruto.)

Haku's power is genetic? Wow that's an edge. Or it would be if the same wasn't true for Sub-zero's direct bloodline or you know in the fight. He's technically a mutant too even among Cryomancers. The current one (not Noob as he's the original) is currently the Grandmaster of the Lin Kuei. That's the level of his fighting ability and ice manipulation. The way Haku used his powers would be considered parlor tricks by a Lin Kuei who was also a Cryomancer. Let alone the Grandmaster of the Lin Kuei and the most powerful Cryomancer to have lived at that point.

You know those Elder Gods that I already talked about? Shao Khan is related by blood to one. And is one of the single most powerful warlords in the Mortal Kombat Universe. He created Ermac as a doomsday weapon. A true weapon of mass destruction originally intended to wage war against the Elder Gods. But it had free will and was far too powerful to not be sealed away. Shao Khan, one of the most ruthless, powerful, and blood thirsty warlords in Mortal Kombat was afraid of what Ermac would do on his own with his power.

Noob Saibot has all of the training of the current Sub-Zero and was his elder brother. So he's potentially a Grandmaster level fighter of the Lin Kuei. He's also a high member of the Brotherhood of Shadow. Which is another clan. But this one takes residence in the Netherrealm. Which is Mortal Kombat's version of Hell. He's a Wraith. The same species as Scorpion. So that means that this man who is a Darkness/Shadow Elemental and has the training of two separate ninja clans with a very very high level of skill also can't be permanently killed. Also with his powers he can become intangible until he needs to attack someone.

And then there's Chameleon. A creature who even MK fans don't know much about. What's speculated (but hasn't been confirmed) is that Chameleon is of the same race as Reptile and the female Khameleon. Which if it's true means he can move as fast as Reptile but chooses not to. What is known is that Chameleon is far better at invisibility than any other character. He can remain silent and undetected by even Gods. Not even his breathing is loud enough to detect when he's invisible. In addition to this fact for an unknown reason (ability, trait, mutation, etc.) he is able to use all of the fighting styles and abilities of the male ninja in Mortal Kombat. This would suggest that simply from observing ninja fighting he can master their fighting styles. So really, that's terrible news for Team Naruto.

Stop bringing up other characters that aren't in this fight. MK fans aren't bringing up any of the female ninja or other characters in the MK universe other than citing examples of why the ninja in this fight are powerful. It doesn't matter what someone who isn't in this fight can do, unless someone in this fight beat them.

In the end this comes down to another thing as well. All of the ninja in this fight on Team Mortal Kombat bar Chameleon are Grandmaster or Grandmaster level fighters in at least one fighting style. Team Naruto? A bunch of kids in training and one of their teachers. Who incidentally could never be Hokage for the fact that he can't use 2/3rds of Ninja technique properly/at all. There's also the fact that Team Mortal Kombat are comprised by dyed in the wool killers. They have no qualms about killing a bunch of kids and a mouthy teacher. At all. But Team Naruto? They're the good guys and have morals. They'll only kill as a last resort. Meaning when they're desperate and scared. Aside from Gaara. Who as previously stated couldn't do a thing to hardly anyone on Team MK and is neutralized (if not outright beaten) by Scorpion.

I rest my case

If you can show me like a YouTube video of that occurring, that would be fantastic. Otherwise, it's just informed ability, something they say the character can do, but it's never actually shown.

Still, the cast of Naruto is more powerful. Nothing you can possibly say can argue that, this isn't a matter of opinion, you are just wrong.

Loki God Of Mischief wrote:And he will only kill as a last resort.

Mizuki, look it up. he's the guy Naruto killed in the first episode of the series.

Loki God Of Mischief wrote:Oh hell where to begin. Reptile isn't a human. He's Saurian. He moves much faster than any human could hope to.

Really? I checked the MK wiki like you claimed to, but it didn't say anything regarding enhanced speed.

Loki God Of Mischief wrote:And depending on how "feral" he is he can also use techniques learned from simply watching other Ninja.

Again, a detail missing from the MK wiki.

Loki God Of Mischief wrote:One of his special moves is hitting you with a lightning bolt from the sky.

That's a common move in Final Fantasy, too, but we don't go around calling Black Mages Gods.

Loki God Of Mischief wrote:And being able to control the elements is a lot different than being a master user of an element.

I'd say it's the exact same thing. "Master" is synonymous with "Control" after all.

Loki God Of Mischief wrote:Gaara is a sand elemental right? His "perfect offense and defense"? Isn't going to do **** against a Hellfire elemental like Scorpion. Except get himself turned into glass and shattered.

Much like hitting him with water, it's not an effective strategy because he can just summon more sand.

Loki God Of Mischief wrote:Scorpion was chosen above Raiden as their champion and Guardian of Earthrealm. What do you think that speaks of the man's fighting abilities?

I dunno, what does it say about the old man who beat Scorpion's ass during this "Champion of the Gods" state?

Loki God Of Mischief wrote:He created Ermac as a doomsday weapon. A true weapon of mass destruction originally intended to wage war against the Elder Gods. But it had free will and was far too powerful to not be sealed away.

Again, a detail missing on the MK wiki.

Loki God Of Mischief wrote:This would suggest that simply from observing ninja fighting he can master their fighting styles. So really, that's terrible news for Team Naruto.

It would be if it wasn't a special ability of Sharingan users like Sasuke and Kakashi.

Shadowman wrote:If you can show me like a YouTube video of that occurring, that would be fantastic. Otherwise, it's just informed ability, something they say the character can do, but it's never actually shown.

What do you want to see?

Shadowman wrote:I dunno, what does it say about the old man who beat Scorpion's ass during this "Champion of the Gods" state?

No old man ever beat Scorpion in his Champion of the gods state. Shujinko did when he was, eh 20-30 something in there. But Shujinko learned from Master Bo Rai Cho, along with Liu Kang and Kung Lao, and he learned the styles of Ermac, Havik, and others whom I can't remember and I don't feel like looking up.

Shadowman wrote:Mizuki, look it up. he's the guy Naruto killed in the first episode of the series.

I didn't find that, sorry.

Shadowman wrote:Really? I checked the MK wiki like you claimed to, but it didn't say anything regarding enhanced speed

See: http://mortalkombat.wikia.com/wiki/Rept ... ture_moves under Running serpent

Shadowman wrote:Much like hitting him with water, it's not an effective strategy because he can just summon more sand.

Hellfire + Sand = Glass. Glass + the ability to summon sand = Scorpion killing you!

I love/hate math!

UNSC Marine wrote:

Shadowman wrote:If you can show me like a YouTube video of that occurring, that would be fantastic. Otherwise, it's just informed ability, something they say the character can do, but it's never actually shown.

What do you want to see?

All of it. Every claim you make, I want to actually see it happen.

UNSC Marine wrote:

Shadowman wrote:Mizuki, look it up. he's the guy Naruto killed in the first episode of the series.

I didn't find that, sorry.

That's because you never look anything up. (Yes, he came back in the anime filler, but he stayed dead in the manga)

UNSC Marine wrote:

Shadowman wrote:Much like hitting him with water, it's not an effective strategy because he can just summon more sand.

Hellfire + Sand = Glass. Glass + the ability to summon sand = Scorpion killing you!

I love/hate math!

The first part you got right, but do you care to explain the second? How does the ability to constantly replenish and repair his barrier somehow lead to Scorpion killing him?

Shadowman wrote:The first part you got right, but do you care to explain the second? How does the ability to constantly replenish and repair his barrier somehow lead to Scorpion killing him?

Because if Fire + Sand =Glass. More Fire + More Sand = More Glass. And Gaara is probably going to run out of sand, or die from the fire itself, before Scorpion runs out of fire.

Shadowman wrote:That's because you never look anything up. (Yes, he came back in the anime filler, but he stayed dead in the manga)

I did look it up and I didn't find that, but I will admit I was wrong.

Although if semi-powerful ninja can be beaten to death that quickly Naruto dosen't have a chance.

And while I'm here, Chameleon can use attacks from: Sub-zero, Scorpion, Ermac, Rain, and Reptile.

Shadowman wrote:If you can show me like a YouTube video of that occurring, that would be fantastic. Otherwise, it's just informed ability, something they say the character can do, but it's never actually shown.

You need a video to know that Sub-Zero manipulates ice? A video to see rain using lightning, wind, and water attacks? You don't really sound like you know too much about MK so I shouldn't be so surprised.