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Yeah...nothing much to say now...but freakin' NASA! Think of the technology they could pump into it!

Awesome.

Pure Awesome.

That mmo would be the next best thing to actually being able to go into space.

It's..an interesting idea..to say the least.

What is a MMO?

Dead Metal wrote:What is a MMO?

Massively Multiplayer Online. WoW, Guild Wars, those are MMOs.

Shadowman wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:What is a MMO?

Massively Multiplayer Online. WoW, Guild Wars, those are MMOs.

Oh OK, so why would NASa be interested in making one? After all they do space stuff.

Dead Metal wrote:

Shadowman wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:What is a MMO?

Massively Multiplayer Online. WoW, Guild Wars, those are MMOs.

Oh OK, so why would NASa be interested in making one? After all they do space stuff.

It's to raise a few extra bucks in funding. According to the thing they sent Penny Arcade, they only get about $17 billion a year in funding, which, when you take into account that they're building gigantic machines to break Earth's gravitational pull (And let's face it, gas isn't cheap), and go into space, that isn't very much.

And when you take into account the machines they use to design and simulate space missions, they can make one damn fine MMO.

I mean, the Army made a game, and that went pretty good.

Not to mention, the MMO would generate a good amount of interest in NASA again. Along with education on different matters NASA deals with.

Interest in NASA = Increased demand for NASA

This means the government may actually give NASA more funding.


This also means, Mars.

and seeing as its NASA and to do with space, they should use aliens as the characters, for example, huge robotic aliens that transform HINT HINT lol............nah, it'll never happen

What will it be about? like will you explore our galaxy or will you be like out in star wars land in a galaxy far far away neeeh neeh neeh neeh nehh neeeeeeeh neh naah nah nah nah naaaah or will it be sort of like Mass effect

MASS Effect=Awesome

Well, considering this is NASA.

I doubt it will be Science-Fiction.


It will most likely be Science-Fact, and some Science-Theory.

I wouldn't expect seeing distant galaxies, or aliens.

More likely, our Solar System and what life in space would be like.

Iz gonna be a space bandit phzzzu

Saberspark model H. wrote:What will it be about? like will you explore our galaxy or will you be like out in star wars land in a galaxy far far away neeeh neeh neeh neeh nehh neeeeeeeh neh naah nah nah nah naaaah or will it be sort of like Mass effect

MASS Effect=Awesome

Please tell me Star Wars isn't the first thing you think of when you hear NASA? Space okay, but NASA?


It will be about being an astronaut. It will be about going into space realistically.

Like, no light speed or hyperspace, no gravity on board ships that don't rotate, no sound in space, and certainly no aliens or other planets.


For instance, did you know there's no up or down in space? There's no gravity so there's no direction of up or down. Up is whatever you see when you tilt your head in that direction, and down is whatever you see beyond your feet in that direction.

What do liquids do in space? They either collect into one big ball or lots of little balls.

You will not freeze when you go into space without a suit. You can, in fact, survive a brief period in vacuum. The human blood vessels are actually able to contain your boiling blood (which isn't actually boiling just moving as if it was because there's no pressure upon it). If you are in view of the sun when you go into space, you will get a horrible sunburn in a matter of moments. Only if you're in shadow away from it will you freeze.

And last but not least, NEVER hold your breath in space. Your lungs will either explode or all the air will rush out at once, destroying your throat. Anytime you see something where someone holds their breath in space (Cowboy Bebop and Hitchhiker's Guide spring readily to mind), it's wrong. Why? Because the human body is actually used to a hell of a lot of pressure. 1 atmosphere of solid air pressure to be exact. How many tons of air is that? How much pressure would that be? Imagine all that pressure in your fragile little human lungs, without the same amount of pressure outside them. POW!!!!

Instead, let all your breath out, and go out into vacuum with nothing in your lungs. You can survive only so long like that. Then, long before you die of other things, you will black out. Then, still long before you die, your brain will begin to lose oxygen and become more and more damaged. If they manage to retrieve your body before the radiation from the sun fries you, and they revive you, you'll be severely retarded from the brain damage.


Those are just a few things you might be able to expect in this game.

Well they estimate that a human may be able to survive in the vacuum in space for over 2-3 minutes. Probably closer to 5 for a human.

But thats good, gives you 5 minutes to have people save your ass in space.

Dark Zarak wrote:

Saberspark model H. wrote:What will it be about? like will you explore our galaxy or will you be like out in star wars land in a galaxy far far away neeeh neeh neeh neeh nehh neeeeeeeh neh naah nah nah nah naaaah or will it be sort of like Mass effect

MASS Effect=Awesome

Please tell me Star Wars isn't the first thing you think of when you hear NASA? Space okay, but NASA?


It will be about being an astronaut. It will be about going into space realistically.

Like, no light speed or hyperspace, no gravity on board ships that don't rotate, no sound in space, and certainly no aliens or other planets.


For instance, did you know there's no up or down in space? There's no gravity so there's no direction of up or down. Up is whatever you see when you tilt your head in that direction, and down is whatever you see beyond your feet in that direction.

What do liquids do in space? They either collect into one big ball or lots of little balls.

You will not freeze when you go into space without a suit. You can, in fact, survive a brief period in vacuum. The human blood vessels are actually able to contain your boiling blood (which isn't actually boiling just moving as if it was because there's no pressure upon it). If you are in view of the sun when you go into space, you will get a horrible sunburn in a matter of moments. Only if you're in shadow away from it will you freeze.

And last but not least, NEVER hold your breath in space. Your lungs will either explode or all the air will rush out at once, destroying your throat. Anytime you see something where someone holds their breath in space (Cowboy Bebop and Hitchhiker's Guide spring readily to mind), it's wrong. Why? Because the human body is actually used to a hell of a lot of pressure. 1 atmosphere of solid air pressure to be exact. How many tons of air is that? How much pressure would that be? Imagine all that pressure in your fragile little human lungs, without the same amount of pressure outside them. POW!!!!

Instead, let all your breath out, and go out into vacuum with nothing in your lungs. You can survive only so long like that. Then, long before you die of other things, you will black out. Then, still long before you die, your brain will begin to lose oxygen and become more and more damaged. If they manage to retrieve your body before the radiation from the sun fries you, and they revive you, you'll be severely retarded from the brain damage.


Those are just a few things you might be able to expect in this game.

When you make a game, you don't want too much realism. How bored are people gonna get staying in just one place. Going into space in real life would be awesome, but in a game, it's boring now. You can't base an MMO on preparing to launch, then orbiting the planet for a while. Collecting data is for real life. Not for videogames. If you want a space MMO to sell, it needs aliens. It needs other planets. That's what games are for. Things you can't do for real.

Thyunda wrote:When you make a game, you don't want too much realism. How bored are people gonna get staying in just one place. Going into space in real life would be awesome, but in a game, it's boring now. You can't base an MMO on preparing to launch, then orbiting the planet for a while. Collecting data is for real life. Not for videogames. If you want a space MMO to sell, it needs aliens. It needs other planets. That's what games are for. Things you can't do for real.

Wrong. All of it. There's no such thing as too much realism. In America's Army, (Aka Recruitment Poster, the Game) when you get hit, you either bleed, or die, or both. You're gun can jam, leaving you vunerable to enemy fire while you try to fix it. One shot can easily take you out, because that's real life. And you only ever face human-player opponents, meaning they can rationalize, plan, and work together as good as you, and better than any NPC ever.

It's awesome. Not enough to make me want to join the Army, but a damn fine attempt.

Thyunda wrote:Things you can't do for real.

For a civilian to go into space, you need a shitload of cash, and if you don't have a 100% perfect bill of health, they scrap the whole thing. That makes it something you can't do for real.

AA is different. It's a gun game. Different every time. A shooter is always best realistic. And when I say realistic, I'm not referring to realistic reactions or problems, if you know what I mean. It'd be cool as a free space simulator, but it just wouldn't work as an MMO.

Plus, just 'cause it's NASA making it doesn't mean it has to be space. Unless that news post that I can't read says it is. Could be a clone of WoW. You could really be assuming a lot from it.

Thyunda wrote:Plus, just 'cause it's NASA making it doesn't mean it has to be space. Unless that news post that I can't read says it is. Could be a clone of WoW. You could really be assuming a lot from it.

You're assuming even more, given that yo said you didn't read the news post.

Here it is from Wired.

NASA's Request for Information (RFI) on how to create a NASA-based massively multiplayer online game that is educational and cool is due soon.

Thyunda wrote:When you make a game, you don't want too much realism. How bored are people gonna get staying in just one place. Going into space in real life would be awesome, but in a game, it's boring now. You can't base an MMO on preparing to launch, then orbiting the planet for a while. Collecting data is for real life. Not for videogames. If you want a space MMO to sell, it needs aliens. It needs other planets. That's what games are for. Things you can't do for real.

No. That's stupid.

Haven't you ever heard of Microsoft Flight Simulator? Haven't you ever heard of Sim City?

I'm sorry, but you must be very sheltered or very young. People will not be bored "staying in one place" because they are busy adjusting millions of controls in their suits at all times, not just a few buttons and joysticks.

Some people also want to think in video games. Not everything has to be a cartoon.

I for one would love a real-life NASA Simulator. Why? Because I'm an aspiring science fiction writer. And since I think Star Wars is for children, I guess the only option open to me is real life. There's Star Trek, but it's not realistic either.

I want to know what it's like to go in space, because to me that is way more exciting than a bunch stupid pew! pew! pew! Pretend laser battles!!!!!111

Dark Zarak wrote:

Thyunda wrote:When you make a game, you don't want too much realism. How bored are people gonna get staying in just one place. Going into space in real life would be awesome, but in a game, it's boring now. You can't base an MMO on preparing to launch, then orbiting the planet for a while. Collecting data is for real life. Not for videogames. If you want a space MMO to sell, it needs aliens. It needs other planets. That's what games are for. Things you can't do for real.

No. That's stupid.

Haven't you ever heard of Microsoft Flight Simulator? Haven't you ever heard of Sim City?

I'm sorry, but you must be very sheltered or very young. People will not be bored "staying in one place" because they are busy adjusting millions of controls in their suits at all times, not just a few buttons and joysticks.

Some people also want to think in video games. Not everything has to be a cartoon.

I for one would love a real-life NASA Simulator. Why? Because I'm an aspiring science fiction writer. And since I think Star Wars is for children, I guess the only option open to me is real life. There's Star Trek, but it's not realistic either.

I want to know what it's like to go in space, because to me that is way more exciting than a bunch stupid pew! pew! pew! Pretend laser battles!!!!!111

Laser battles suck. I have written one or two sci-fi's. They're not very good. But, I try. I don't understand why people like Star Wars. Just looks to me like a bunch of idiots firing lights at each other, then pulling out lightbars and whacking each other with them. I like the universe of Star Wars, because there is so much there. I like variety. I get bored easily in games if there's say, three characters to play as, or if there is only about four cities to visit in an RPG, or only twelve cars in a racing game. I hate a lack of variety.

Thyunda wrote:

Dark Zarak wrote:

Thyunda wrote:When you make a game, you don't want too much realism. How bored are people gonna get staying in just one place. Going into space in real life would be awesome, but in a game, it's boring now. You can't base an MMO on preparing to launch, then orbiting the planet for a while. Collecting data is for real life. Not for videogames. If you want a space MMO to sell, it needs aliens. It needs other planets. That's what games are for. Things you can't do for real.

No. That's stupid.

Haven't you ever heard of Microsoft Flight Simulator? Haven't you ever heard of Sim City?

I'm sorry, but you must be very sheltered or very young. People will not be bored "staying in one place" because they are busy adjusting millions of controls in their suits at all times, not just a few buttons and joysticks.

Some people also want to think in video games. Not everything has to be a cartoon.

I for one would love a real-life NASA Simulator. Why? Because I'm an aspiring science fiction writer. And since I think Star Wars is for children, I guess the only option open to me is real life. There's Star Trek, but it's not realistic either.

I want to know what it's like to go in space, because to me that is way more exciting than a bunch stupid pew! pew! pew! Pretend laser battles!!!!!111

Laser battles suck. I have written one or two sci-fi's. They're not very good. But, I try. I don't understand why people like Star Wars. Just looks to me like a bunch of idiots firing lights at each other, then pulling out lightbars and whacking each other with them. I like the universe of Star Wars, because there is so much there. I like variety. I get bored easily in games if there's say, three characters to play as, or if there is only about four cities to visit in an RPG, or only twelve cars in a racing game. I hate a lack of variety.

Well I'm glad to see you say that. Star Wars has its place, but for the most part it's kind of stupid I think.

You shouldn't give up writing. If you think your work sucks that means you recognize a problem with it, and you could do better if you keep trying.

As for the NASA game, think of it more like a real life simulator than a "game".

I'd have no problem with it being an offline game, just the MMO part doesn't really make sense to me.

Thyunda wrote:I'd have no problem with it being an offline game, just the MMO part doesn't really make sense to me.

They have a lot of people working for NASA. A lot of people.

Shadowman wrote:

Thyunda wrote:I'd have no problem with it being an offline game, just the MMO part doesn't really make sense to me.

They have a lot of people working for NASA. A lot of people.

Yes. They also have cleaners. How annoyed would you be if your character ended up as a cleaner?

Thyunda wrote:

Shadowman wrote:

Thyunda wrote:I'd have no problem with it being an offline game, just the MMO part doesn't really make sense to me.

They have a lot of people working for NASA. A lot of people.

Yes. They also have cleaners. How annoyed would you be if your character ended up as a cleaner?

You're still looking at it all wrong.

It's an MMO because it's all about different people acting together in an astronaut setting. It's a brilliant idea for people who are into astronomy.

You can't be a cleaner. You know that's pointless.

It's going to be an astronaut simulator where you cooperate with other people to do things that real astronauts do. Work a few bugs out and you'll have a dream come true for a lot of people who are not able to go into space.


Just admit it. It's not your bag. That's perfectly all right.