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Transformers the movie They were allways real to me

Postby Saber Prime » Mon Jan 19, 2009 2:15 am

Have you noticed the footage from the original movie doesn't even mate the Transformers Universe video. The only parts that fit are right at the begining and at the end.

Megatron: I would have waited an eternity for this. It's over Prime.

Optimus Prime: Never!

Anyway I made a comparison of the two. They allso edited out part of the animation before even going to the CGI.

http://www.youtube.com/rialvestro
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Re: Transformers the movie They were allways real to me

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Postby Dead Metal » Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:05 am

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I noticed that the first time I saw it.
but seriously it's no big deal the vid is still awesome.
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Re: Transformers the movie They were allways real to me

Postby Decepticon Spike » Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:57 pm

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It doesn't matter to me. I still think it's awesome to see "real" G1 TF's duking in out.
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Re: Transformers the movie They were allways real to me

Postby Saber Prime » Sat Jan 24, 2009 6:37 pm

It is a cool video but would of been nice if they'd use more of the original dialog at least. I kinda miss Megatron's "I'll rip out your optics!"
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Re: Transformers the movie They were allways real to me

Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Sat Jan 31, 2009 12:18 am

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Saber Prime wrote:Have you noticed the footage from the original movie doesn't even mate the Transformers Universe video. The only parts that fit are right at the begining and at the end.

Megatron: I would have waited an eternity for this. It's over Prime.

Optimus Prime: Never!

Anyway I made a comparison of the two. They allso edited out part of the animation before even going to the CGI.

http://www.youtube.com/rialvestro


Not to sound rude but....why would you expect them too match up????

Its not like they intended to do a frame by frame copy from cell animation to CGI.

The back grounds are all different too.
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Re: Transformers the movie They were allways real to me

Postby Saber Prime » Sat Jan 31, 2009 8:25 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Saber Prime wrote:Have you noticed the footage from the original movie doesn't even mate the Transformers Universe video. The only parts that fit are right at the begining and at the end.

Megatron: I would have waited an eternity for this. It's over Prime.

Optimus Prime: Never!

Anyway I made a comparison of the two. They allso edited out part of the animation before even going to the CGI.

http://www.youtube.com/rialvestro


Not to sound rude but....why would you expect them too match up????

Its not like they intended to do a frame by frame copy from cell animation to CGI.

The back grounds are all different too.


Because they used the original animation from the movie to start it and part of the original dialog. It just looked like a remake of that original scene with missing footage.
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Re: Transformers the movie They were allways real to me

Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Sat Jan 31, 2009 8:47 pm

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Saber Prime wrote:Because they used the original animation from the movie to start it and part of the original dialog. It just looked like a remake of that original scene with missing footage.


It just never looked like a "RE-MAKE" to me.

Yeah they used some dialog and some original animation at the begining but it seemed to be more of a "look at what could have been" or a "look at what we can do now" video with some fan nods.
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Re: Transformers the movie They were allways real to me

Postby Decepticon Spike » Sun Feb 01, 2009 12:58 pm

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Re: Transformers the movie They were allways real to me

Postby Saber Prime » Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:03 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Saber Prime wrote:Because they used the original animation from the movie to start it and part of the original dialog. It just looked like a remake of that original scene with missing footage.


It just never looked like a "RE-MAKE" to me.

Yeah they used some dialog and some original animation at the begining but it seemed to be more of a "look at what could have been" or a "look at what we can do now" video with some fan nods.


When I first saw the video it was after not seeing the original version for a while. I imediatly recognized the footage used and that something seemed out of place. I thought it was just that Hot Rod was missing from the scene. It wasn't till actully watching the movie again I realized Kup wasn't in it either and watching them both again back to back while editing was when I realized none of the fight scenes matched passed the first transition from original animation to CGI and the last blow at the end.

Allthough even that last scene at the end wasn't perfectly matched because Megatron didn't have his fusion cannon in the original. Allthough that I figured was done just so Megatron could look complete in the CGI.
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Re: Transformers the movie They were allways real to me

Postby Decepticon Spike » Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:17 pm

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So, it basicly comes down to it's not a frame by frame remake, so you don't like it?
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Re: Transformers the movie They were allways real to me

Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:35 pm

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Saber Prime wrote:When I first saw the video it was after not seeing the original version for a while. I imediatly recognized the footage used and that something seemed out of place. I thought it was just that Hot Rod was missing from the scene. It wasn't till actully watching the movie again I realized Kup wasn't in it either and watching them both again back to back while editing was when I realized none of the fight scenes matched passed the first transition from original animation to CGI and the last blow at the end.

Allthough even that last scene at the end wasn't perfectly matched because Megatron didn't have his fusion cannon in the original. Allthough that I figured was done just so Megatron could look complete in the CGI.


I guess I never tried to look at that video as a "re-make".
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Re: Transformers the movie They were allways real to me

Postby Saber Prime » Mon Feb 02, 2009 5:18 pm

Decepticon Spike wrote:So, it basicly comes down to it's not a frame by frame remake, so you don't like it?


Where did you get that from? I never said I didn't like it. I just said I wanted to mix in a bit more of the original footage and couldn't because there's not enouge footage that matches.

I was trying to make an exstended video and it turned into a comparison is all.
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Re: Transformers the movie They were allways real to me

Postby Decepticon Spike » Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:15 pm

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I took it as you not liking it becasue they didn't have Hot Rod, Kup, ect...
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Re: Transformers the movie They were allways real to me

Postby Saber Prime » Wed Feb 04, 2009 3:18 pm

Decepticon Spike wrote:I took it as you not liking it becasue they didn't have Hot Rod, Kup, ect...


Nope, no where have I ever said that. I've only been talking about a video I was trying to edit togeather useing footage from both versions.

I've only stated my opinion of what I thought of the video once in here and I said.

Saber Prime wrote:It is a cool video but would of been nice if they'd use more of the original dialog at least. I kinda miss Megatron's "I'll rip out your optics!"


So apperently I guess you thought "cool" means "it sucks".
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Re: Transformers the movie They were allways real to me

Postby Decepticon Spike » Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:43 pm

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When I first saw the video it was after not seeing the original version for a while. I imediatly recognized the footage used and that something seemed out of place. I thought it was just that Hot Rod was missing from the scene. It wasn't till actully watching the movie again I realized Kup wasn't in it either and watching them both again back to back while editing was when I realized none of the fight scenes matched passed the first transition from original animation to CGI and the last blow at the end.

Allthough even that last scene at the end wasn't perfectly matched because Megatron didn't have his fusion cannon in the original. Allthough that I figured was done just so Megatron could look complete in the CGI.


Sounds like you're complaining about the footage not matching up to me.
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Re: Transformers the movie They were allways real to me

Postby Saber Prime » Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:02 pm

Decepticon Spike wrote:
When I first saw the video it was after not seeing the original version for a while. I imediatly recognized the footage used and that something seemed out of place. I thought it was just that Hot Rod was missing from the scene. It wasn't till actully watching the movie again I realized Kup wasn't in it either and watching them both again back to back while editing was when I realized none of the fight scenes matched passed the first transition from original animation to CGI and the last blow at the end.

Allthough even that last scene at the end wasn't perfectly matched because Megatron didn't have his fusion cannon in the original. Allthough that I figured was done just so Megatron could look complete in the CGI.


Sounds like you're complaining about the footage not matching up to me.


I am complaining about the footage not matching up but not because I don't like the CGI video. I was complaining about it because (and I've said this like 8 times now) I wanted to make an exstended version useing more of the original footage.

It's the simple fact that I couldn't make a video I wanted to work on not because I didn't like the new version.

It's still a cool video, I love it ALOT better than Micheal Bay's piece of **** movie. I just can't use any of with the original stuff to make 1 long video.
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Re: Transformers the movie They were allways real to me

Postby Decepticon Spike » Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:05 am

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Maybe you can get some TF fans who can do CGI together and make a fan film?
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Postby Blackstreak » Sun Feb 08, 2009 2:01 pm

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I noticed this any die hard fan of the animated movie could tell. It was probably changed for timing purposes and copyright. I've never seen a movie that accurately portrayed events from a book, comic, or other source. It's still awesome. Wish they do the whole anime movie like that.
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