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5150 Cruiser wrote:And this is not a completions. There's no need for comments of "man, thats blow my donation out of the water", Or "I dare you to do better"

I assume you mean competition - in which case I see no reason for it not to be. The source of the motivation should be irrelevant, so long as it spurs people on to do something useful.

Pride will do as well as altruism, and is in far greater abundance.

Once all my bills are paid and if i have some money left over, I'll gladly make a donation.

And that's all I'm asking. That's no more than I've done.

While you might feel that thoughts and prayers don't do anything, if people didn't care then they probably wouldn't have even bothered to post in this thread.

Oh, I'm sure they care; if they didn't care, they wouldn't feel the need to absolve themselves of guilt by telling us how much they care, and vociferously defending the power of prayer and positive thinking.

But please understand that your finacial situation, no matter how little, or much you make is not that of the next person who posts in this thread. spo please don't judge someone if they can't donate at this time.

The thing is, I could about guarantee you that 95% of the people over 18 who visit this site could cough up $10 for charity without sacrificing anything significant, but given the much cheaper alternative of just 'thinking' about it, they will not.

If the small handful of people who legitimately can't afford it are offended by what I'm saying - well, that's unfortunate, and I feel bad for them because we should probably be raising money for them, too - but I'm not exactly bothered by it if it motivates the larger number of people who know they can and should do something to follow through.

The other thing is - if I continue to kick up enough of a fuss, people will remember this conversation the next time they are at the store, pick up a $13 deluxe class Transformer, and head to the check out line. If they aren't convinced to do more than wish and pray right now, maybe they'll change their minds then.

And in fact, the intensity of the protestations so far would suggest that I'm not wasting my time. It's the funny thing about guilt - if you actually feel enough of it that you need to defend yourself or to run away from the situation, it's a pretty good sign that the guilt is warranted. If you really aren't in a position to help, you know what I'm saying doesn't apply to you, and that is that. If you feel you have to explain why you can't help, or don't need to help, it's probably a sign that you should.

Well, as some of you may know, I was serving a mission for my church in Idaho. As I watched the damage of Japan on the news, I started to wonder how the other missionaries in Japan are fairing. From the looks of it, lds.org has reported that almost everyone is safe. Still have a couple of questions here ad there, but those will be resolved.

http://newsroom.lds.org/article/church- ... s-in-japan

Please don't think I'm posting this because I'm only worried about a small group in Japan. I'm posting this to show that others that I can call my brothers are alright. Also, to show that my church is working on getting aid to the people of Japan.

Just like Katrina, the everyone will be banning together to help everyone get back on their feet. As a missionary in Idaho I never had to deal with disaster relief, but from what I understand the missionaries in Japan will be focusing on that for quite some time.

Just terrible. Why are all these horrible things happening around the globe right now. Is Mother Nature peed off at us in a major way or what. My thoughts are with the peoples of Japan at this awful time.

I agree with Caelus on this one. It's nice to know someone cares, but thoughts and prayers aren't food, clothing, shelter, medicine, etc. etc. etc. I'm not criticizing you if that's all you can do, I'm in no position to call anyone out for being unable to help, but prayers don't fix everything; people do.

Elita One wrote:Just terrible. Why are all these horrible things happening around the globe right now. Is Mother Nature peed off at us in a major way or what. My thoughts are with the peoples of Japan at this awful time.

Horrible things have been happening all around the globe since long before man was ever here. Just ask the Dinosaurs.

Caelus wrote:The thing is, I could about guarantee you that 95% of the people over 18 who visit this site could cough up $10 for charity without sacrificing anything significant, but given the much cheaper alternative of just 'thinking' about it, they will not.

If the small handful of people who legitimately can't afford it are offended by what I'm saying - well, that's unfortunate, and I feel bad for them because we should probably be raising money for them, too - but I'm not exactly bothered by it if it motivates the larger number of people who know they can and should do something to follow through.

The other thing is - if I continue to kick up enough of a fuss, people will remember this conversation the next time they are at the store, pick up a $13 deluxe class Transformer, and head to the check out line. If they aren't convinced to do more than wish and pray right now, maybe they'll change their minds then.

And in fact, the intensity of the protestations so far would suggest that I'm not wasting my time. It's the funny thing about guilt - if you actually feel enough of it that you need to defend yourself or to run away from the situation, it's a pretty good sign that the guilt is warranted. If you really aren't in a position to help, you know what I'm saying doesn't apply to you, and that is that. If you feel you have to explain why you can't help, or don't need to help, it's probably a sign that you should.

That's enough of this tone in this thread. We at Seibertron.com are doing what we can do. Please stop with the guilt tripping and the negative tone of talking down to people who decide not to donate and decide to pray. It is NOT for you to judge what level of contribution others should make. If you want to make a donation, that's your business. We're not going to have this thread here so you guys can belittle whether or not people are making contributions. I get your point, you're just going about it the wrong way. If you want to truly help, drop the negative tone and let's help spread the word about how people can help without talking down to others or telling them that their prayers are pointless without ponying up cash. That is not how we'll be handling this situation on this website.

On that note, we have made a donation news post, which you can find here, about how people can help by contribution to the American Red Cross. If you are able to make a donation, it would be greatly appreciated. If you can't, please consider doing so at a later date when or if you are able. We just want to help in whatever way we can by pointing people in this direction. Every little bit can help.

Caelus wrote:

5150 Cruiser wrote:And this is not a completions. There's no need for comments of "man, thats blow my donation out of the water", Or "I dare you to do better"

I assume you mean competition - in which case I see no reason for it not to be. The source of the motivation should be irrelevant, so long as it spurs people on to do something useful.

Pride will do as well as altruism, and is in far greater abundance.

Proverbs 16:18 wrote:Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall.

And just because you're jaded, like most of the world, doesn't mean you or they are right. Altruism is out there, and far more abundant than you know. People sometimes don't mention what good deeds they've done simply because they have no need for a pat on the back.

It's not about accolades, it's about what's doing right. Go ahead and rest on your pride, just don't be surprised when it collapses out from under you and fall flat on your face and bust it wide open.

And this is not a competition. This is about people's lives. It's not about who can give more, so they have bragging rights. You need a wake up call. Or, I should say, just grow up.

Caelus wrote:

5150 Cruiser wrote:Once all my bills are paid and if i have some money left over, I'll gladly make a donation.

And that's all I'm asking. That's no more than I've done.

No. That is not all that you're asking. You're pushing and prodding and being prickish about it, when you have no idea whether or not someone's already given a donation. You sit in judgment and point fingers and you make people want to just slap you across the face, so hard that spit comes flying out. You know those ones, they sting so bad a grown man will well up with tears? Yeah, that kind of slap and you deserve it.

All your posts serve to do is this: "I GAVE! LOOK AT ME! I'M A FRIGGIN' SUPERHERO! SURE, OTHERS GAVE MORE, BUT I GAVE AND THAT'S WHAT MATTERS! I'M GONNA PAT MYSELF ON THE BACK!" Don't pull that arm out of socket, you'll need to use it again.

But you ARE asking people to do more than you've done.

Caelus wrote:

5150 Cruiser wrote:While you might feel that thoughts and prayers don't do anything, if people didn't care then they probably wouldn't have even bothered to post in this thread.

Oh, I'm sure they care; if they didn't care, they wouldn't feel the need to absolve themselves of guilt by telling us how much they care, and vociferously defending the power of prayer and positive thinking.

Wow. There is a streak of evil and mean in you a mile wide. No one's absolving any guilt. They're speaking from the heart when they pray for these people. There's nothing wrong with praying to God. If you have issues with it, well then you might as well take it up with him, but be careful where you tread, he might just respond.

Matthew 4:7 wrote:Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God

And there is proof that prayer has helped, especially during medical procedures. You can Google it for yourself. Oh wait...is your mouse hand the "I'ma pat myself on the back" hand? I'll bet it's all worn out. Here...

http://www.healthsearches.org/Categorie ... e/1335.php

And here...

http://www.guideposts.org/prayer/power- ... ounce-back

And you mentioned in another post that you're up on your high horse. You have no reason to be. None.

Isaiah 64:6 wrote:But we are all as an unclean [thing], and all our righteousnesses [are] as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

You're self righteous, you have no reason to be and it's disgusting. Ryan/Seibertron gave more than you did, you admit it, and he's not strutting around, patting himself on his back.

This is not a game, this is not a contest, this is about people's lives, and if anyone's trying to make themselves feel better, IT'S YOU.

Now, do us all a favor and get down off of that high horse, before you get a nosebleed. Because we want to be the ones who give it to you.

Caelus wrote:

5150 Cruiser wrote:But please understand that your finacial situation, no matter how little, or much you make is not that of the next person who posts in this thread. spo please don't judge someone if they can't donate at this time.

The thing is, I could about guarantee you that 95% of the people over 18 who visit this site could cough up $10 for charity without sacrificing anything significant, but given the much cheaper alternative of just 'thinking' about it, they will not.

How dare you. You don't know what people are capable of. I'd love it if you'd just shut up. You're being a troll, and in one of the worst threads to do it in.

Caelus wrote:If the small handful of people who legitimately can't afford it are offended by what I'm saying - well, that's unfortunate, and I feel bad for them because we should probably be raising money for them, too - but I'm not exactly bothered by it if it motivates the larger number of people who know they can and should do something to follow through.

You don't feel bad for anyone. And you're not bothered at all. You're enjoying this. You have been from the beginning. What is WRONG with you?

Caelus wrote:The other thing is - if I continue to kick up enough of a fuss, people will remember this conversation the next time they are at the store, pick up a $13 deluxe class Transformer, and head to the check out line. If they aren't convinced to do more than wish and pray right now, maybe they'll change their minds then.

You don't have the right to "kick up enough of a fuss". Last I checked, you were a HMW Moderator, yet I don't see that tag anymore. I see now that you clearly didn't deserve it. If this is how you act, then you have no right to be in a position of power telling people how to do things. You just think you do. And you're wrong.

And they most certainly don't need you to change their minds. And just to piss you off, I wouldn't be surprised if some do exactly what you don't want them to do, just to get back at you. Sure, it sucks, but I know that deep down it would drive you nuts. And that's enjoyable.

Caelus wrote:And in fact, the intensity of the protestations so far would suggest that I'm not wasting my time. It's the funny thing about guilt - if you actually feel enough of it that you need to defend yourself or to run away from the situation, it's a pretty good sign that the guilt is warranted. If you really aren't in a position to help, you know what I'm saying doesn't apply to you, and that is that. If you feel you have to explain why you can't help, or don't need to help, it's probably a sign that you should.

Shut. Up. Please. We're all just a little bit sick of this by this point.

Alright guys, let's roll things back a bit here.

It's a persons individual decision whether they donate or not. No one needs to know, nor does anyone have a right to judge another on whether they donated or not.

Let's remember what this thread is about, a great tragedy that has affected thousands of people. Seriously guys, these people are suffering and you bicker over this?

Enough of it. That's not what this thread was about. Spare us the bickering and let's get back to the topic of this thread.

Could the effects of a nuclear meltdown in Japan go across the Pacific to the U.S. West Coast? Are you west coast folks keeping an eye on this? This is scary stuff, not to mention the effects on Japan.



Good god this is an f'ed up past 27 hours or so for Japan.

First-Aid wrote:If I may interject...

JAzz-1982 is obviously in Japan right now. I don't know how many other of our forums members are over there, but can I suggest that- if he is willing- he be a liaison for those of us who may want to donate/help in other ways? I would assume that he could tell us more about who really needs help and where we could direct our resources. I also suggest that Ryan or another staffer contact the HLJ folks and see if they can give us some information. Perhaps we as a fandom can "adopt" a family and help them to the best of our ability...

Just some ideas i had in my head suddenly...maybe it's the whiskey I've been drinking or the healthcare provider in me that yearns to help in more "hands on" ways than simply donating to the Red Cross. This really is a disaster on the equivalent with Katrina and 9/11 (please, i know this is different than 9/11, but the devastation really is an equivalent) and it would be great to put our collective fingerprints into this moment in history and really leave our marks in a very personal and definitive way.

At this stage what I would recommend is the same as Ryan what has already been suggested; if you want to donate some money to help the people in Japan then I think a donation to the Red Cross via the link that Ryan has kindly set up would be the best thing. if you donate to the Red Cross that will be a big help. There will probably be various special funds set up to send aid to Japan by international websites/organizations/charities so you could send money to them instead once they have been set up.

The idea to sponsor a family is a good one but as Japan is a developed country with a strong economy I don't think it will be an option. I don't mean to be disrespectful in any way to developing countries where this kind of thing is common or to criticize your idea but the Japanese government (hopefully) will be able to take care of the homeless people if Prime Minister Kan's emergency budget receives approval in the Diet.

If Seibertron members send help in whatever way they feel is best then we can all make a contribution whether it be prayers, donations of money or in other ways then that will give them support they need.

Currently all 12 regular TV channels are broadcasting continuous updates from the affected areas. The list numbers of those who have died is sadly continuing to rise. At present I think there is around 1,000 confirmed dead but who knows how many people are missing and unaccounted for. If the tsunami had hit Tokyo then the numbers of dead would be in the hundreds of thousands due to the population density.

The potentially catastrophic radiation leak from Fukushima nuclear power plant is dominating the news here. The disastrous outcome of the earthquake and tsunami has already left Japan in a state of total crisis but if they have to cope with a massive radiation leak as well the people of Japan will need the entire world to pray for them.

Jazz-1982 wrote:

First-Aid wrote:If I may interject...

JAzz-1982 is obviously in Japan right now. I don't know how many other of our forums members are over there, but can I suggest that- if he is willing- he be a liaison for those of us who may want to donate/help in other ways? I would assume that he could tell us more about who really needs help and where we could direct our resources. I also suggest that Ryan or another staffer contact the HLJ folks and see if they can give us some information. Perhaps we as a fandom can "adopt" a family and help them to the best of our ability...

Just some ideas i had in my head suddenly...maybe it's the whiskey I've been drinking or the healthcare provider in me that yearns to help in more "hands on" ways than simply donating to the Red Cross. This really is a disaster on the equivalent with Katrina and 9/11 (please, i know this is different than 9/11, but the devastation really is an equivalent) and it would be great to put our collective fingerprints into this moment in history and really leave our marks in a very personal and definitive way.

At this stage what I would recommend is the same as Ryan what has already been suggested; if you want to donate some money to help the people in Japan then I think a donation to the Red Cross via the link that Ryan has kindly set up would be the best thing. if you donate to the Red Cross that will be a big help. There will probably be various special funds set up to send aid to Japan by international websites/organizations/charities so you could send money to them instead once they have been set up.

The idea to sponsor a family is a good one but as Japan is a developed country with a strong economy I don't think it will be an option. I don't mean to be disrespectful in any way to developing countries where this kind of thing is common or to criticize your idea but the Japanese government (hopefully) will be able to take care of the homeless people if Prime Minister Kan's emergency budget receives approval in the Diet.

If Seibertron members send help in whatever way they feel is best then we can all make a contribution whether it be prayers, donations of money or in other ways then that will give them support they need.

Currently all 12 regular TV channels are broadcasting continuous updates from the affected areas. The list numbers of those who have died is sadly continuing to rise. At present I think there is around 1,000 confirmed dead but who knows how many people are missing and unaccounted for. If the tsunami had hit Tokyo then the numbers of dead would be in the hundreds of thousands due to the population density.

The potentially catastrophic radiation leak from Fukushima nuclear power plant is dominating the news here. The disastrous outcome of the earthquake and tsunami has already left Japan in a state of total crisis but if they have to cope with a massive radiation leak as well the people of Japan will need the entire world to pray for them.

Update; they are saying that if there is a leak it will only affect people within a 6 mile radius but I think this is the most optimistic estimate.

Seibertron wrote:Could the effects of a nuclear meltdown in Japan go across the Pacific to the U.S. West Coast? Are you west coast folks keeping an eye on this? This is scary stuff, not to mention the effects on Japan.



Good god this is an f'ed up past 27 hours or so for Japan.

I don't know if it would affect the West Coast, though it's possible. It was stated once that Chernobyl's meltdown did add to the numbers of cancers worldwide.

I'd be more worried about the Koreas and the surrounding area at the moment. Though, I do think Hawaii could be in danger if the situation gets out of hand that bad.

I hope they recover well. Lord help us all for the comming disasters. Giant moon is approaching in a few days 18/19 of march. Everyone prep well. a single person needs a little over a half a gallon of water a day to susatin themselves. stock up well folks. God bless

im ruined wrote:I hope they recover well. Lord help us all for the comming disasters. Giant moon is approaching in a few days 18/19 of march. Everyone prep well. a single person needs a little over a half a gallon of water a day to susatin themselves. stock up well folks. God bless

What is Giant Moon? I've never heard of it.

Autobot032 wrote:

im ruined wrote:I hope they recover well. Lord help us all for the comming disasters. Giant moon is approaching in a few days 18/19 of march. Everyone prep well. a single person needs a little over a half a gallon of water a day to susatin themselves. stock up well folks. God bless

What is Giant Moon? I've never heard of it.

It's when the moon appears to be larger and is apparently physically closer to Earth, though I'm unsure of the validity of this (I haven't done any research regarding this matter and it contradicts something I thought was true that the size of the moon in the sky never changes, it's an urban myth I thought I had read).

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthre ... p=71067804

In theory, "Giant Moon" would have an affect on the Earth. There was a Giant Moon last month as well which some people have theorized caused the Earthquakes last month. If anyone else can shed some light on this "Giant Moon" subject, it'd be interesting to talk about those theories.

Seibertron wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:

im ruined wrote:I hope they recover well. Lord help us all for the comming disasters. Giant moon is approaching in a few days 18/19 of march. Everyone prep well. a single person needs a little over a half a gallon of water a day to susatin themselves. stock up well folks. God bless

What is Giant Moon? I've never heard of it.

It's when the moon appears to be larger and is apparently physically closer to Earth, though I'm unsure of the validity of this (I haven't done any research regarding this matter and it contradicts something I thought was true that the size of the moon in the sky never changes, it's an urban myth I thought I had read).

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthre ... p=71067804

In theory, "Giant Moon" would have an affect on the Earth. There was a Giant Moon last month as well which some people have theorized caused the Earthquakes last month. If anyone else can shed some light on this "Giant Moon" subject, it'd be interesting to talk about those theories.

O_o if that's true, science wise, then that could make for a pretty hellacious couple of days. I'm hoping it's just a bunch of bunk.

How much more can these people take?

EDIT: Read the link. *shudders* That's some scary crap.

Seibertron wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:

im ruined wrote:I hope they recover well. Lord help us all for the comming disasters. Giant moon is approaching in a few days 18/19 of march. Everyone prep well. a single person needs a little over a half a gallon of water a day to susatin themselves. stock up well folks. God bless

What is Giant Moon? I've never heard of it.

It's when the moon appears to be larger and is apparently physically closer to Earth, though I'm unsure of the validity of this (I haven't done any research regarding this matter and it contradicts something I thought was true that the size of the moon in the sky never changes, it's an urban myth I thought I had read).

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthre ... p=71067804

In theory, "Giant Moon" would have an affect on the Earth. There was a Giant Moon last month as well which some people have theorized caused the Earthquakes last month. If anyone else can shed some light on this "Giant Moon" subject, it'd be interesting to talk about those theories.

http://humanrestore.com/interesting-art ... tastrophe/

http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20110310/ ... ldisasters

Astronomical event called ‘monthly perigee “and means that we will see a moon bigger than usual. It will switch to “only” 356,578 miles from Earth.

That given that the average distance of the Moon from our planet is about 384,400 km

In the last 60 years, these super months influential weather events, whenever they occurred: in 1955, 1974, 1992 and 2005.

Journalists at the Daily Mail and give concrete examples: the tsunami in Indonesia, that killed hundreds of thousands of people took place just two weeks before perigeul month, in January 2005.

On Christmas day in 1974, Cyclone Tracy devastated a huge area on the Australian continent.

Could the bolded part above be the culprit for this sudden disaster in Japan?
And who knows what is next for the rest of the planet..

The two two reported threads have been handled.
Keep it civil please that is all I am asking.

This is horrible. I don't even know what to say. I can't help but wonder what else will happen this year. Only a quarter in and there's already been a lot of crap happening, with at least two huge natural disasters and all the political problems in Africa and the Middle East. My prayers are with Japan.

Jazz-1982, thanks for the updates from over there. I suspected that the potential radiation leak would be confined to a small area. SOmeone else also worried about the Koreas, but you shouldn't. Even if this were a huge leak, the winds move from west to east, which means that most of the fallout would end up in the Pacific, with zero effects on the West Coast of the US.

The hypothesis that the moon has certain effects on the Earth is sound- just look at "tides". Why would the moons gravitational field not affect things like the tectonic plates and weather? It's a logical conclusion, but at this point lacks concrete scientific proof.

Cyber Bishop wrote:

Seibertron wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:

im ruined wrote:I hope they recover well. Lord help us all for the comming disasters. Giant moon is approaching in a few days 18/19 of march. Everyone prep well. a single person needs a little over a half a gallon of water a day to susatin themselves. stock up well folks. God bless

What is Giant Moon? I've never heard of it.

It's when the moon appears to be larger and is apparently physically closer to Earth, though I'm unsure of the validity of this (I haven't done any research regarding this matter and it contradicts something I thought was true that the size of the moon in the sky never changes, it's an urban myth I thought I had read).

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthre ... p=71067804

In theory, "Giant Moon" would have an affect on the Earth. There was a Giant Moon last month as well which some people have theorized caused the Earthquakes last month. If anyone else can shed some light on this "Giant Moon" subject, it'd be interesting to talk about those theories.

http://humanrestore.com/interesting-art ... tastrophe/

http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20110310/ ... ldisasters

Astronomical event called ‘monthly perigee “and means that we will see a moon bigger than usual. It will switch to “only” 356,578 miles from Earth.

That given that the average distance of the Moon from our planet is about 384,400 km

In the last 60 years, these super months influential weather events, whenever they occurred: in 1955, 1974, 1992 and 2005.

Journalists at the Daily Mail and give concrete examples: the tsunami in Indonesia, that killed hundreds of thousands of people took place just two weeks before perigeul month, in January 2005.

On Christmas day in 1974, Cyclone Tracy devastated a huge area on the Australian continent.

Could the bolded part above be the culprit for this sudden disaster in Japan?
And who knows what is next for the rest of the planet..

The two two reported threads have been handled.
Keep it civil please that is all I am asking.

So, the Moon issue is pretty serious, from what I've read. Danged creepy and disturbing to know, all things considered.

I really hope all of this goes away soon, am just glad my friends who live in fukuoka are ok. I was so in shock when i hear about this, been watching the news non stop. Its so crazy.

Shadowman wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:The same thing with Katrina. 2 totally different places with equally devastating natural occurrences is way beyond coincidence.

It's not a coincidence. A coincidence would imply there is a relation between the two events. There isn't. It's two devastating natural disasters occurring at two completely different locations at two completely different times. It happens all the time. (Sorry if that last part seems insensitive, it's not meant to be)

Back on track here:

If I weren't flat broke, I'd be donating whatever I could to the Red Cross right now like others are doing. I'm of the belief that thoughts and prayers don't fix problems like this. No offense to those of you who do.

If I wasn't flat-out broke, I would contribute some of my TF fund to them as well. All I can do right now is keep them in my prayers and try to donate as much as I can (even though I can't, but that doesn't mean if I find a buck on the ground I won't donate it )As for me saying that only 1% of the Japanese population are Christian, I'm sorry if that offended anyone. Someone had told me earlier that day, and they were pretty smart about these things, so I guess that's what I get for assuming.

Cliff Jumper wrote:My prayers go out to all those affected in Japan, and I pray:

O God, who hast established the earth upon firm foundations, graciously receive the prayers of Thy people: and, having utterly removed the dangers of the shaken earth, turn the terrors of Thy divine wrath into the means of the salvation of mankind; that they who are of the earth, and unto earth shall return, may rejoice to find themselves citizens of heaven by means of a holy life. Through Christ our Lord. Amen.

Eternal rest grant unto them O Lord,
And let perpetual Light shine upon them.
May their souls
And the souls of all the faithful departed
Through the mercy of God
Rest in peace.
Amen.

Our Father Who art in heaven hallowed by thy Name. Thy Kingdom come, thy Will be done on earth as it is in Heaven, and give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.
Amen

Amen.

Seibertron wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

Red 50 wrote:It's Horrible!

Volcanoes erupting, floods, hurricanes, fires, earthquakes, tsunamis...
Is Earth really getting revenge on us for what humankind has done to it?

Exactly.

Just take this crap to another thread. We don't need conspiracy theories and end times stuff here.

This is serious.

I am serious. Why else would it happen?

Stop. It.

SlyTF1 wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:Quick fact; Did you know that only 1% of the Japanese population is Christian?

ZOMG! I'm sorry, but I think that this is why. The same thing with Katrina. 2 totally different places with equally devastating natural occurrences is way beyond coincidence.

I don't know what your personal beliefs are, but I'm a Christian and I'm not thinking this way. Some might, but not all. In fact, right now, most of us are flat out worried for their safety, and pray they'll be taken care of. It's between them and God what happens next. Not our place to judge.

Thanks for making us look bad.

One person sharing their thoughts doesn't make us look bad.

And yes, let's please keep end of days conspiracy theories out of this topic folks. If you want to post a separate topic, you are more than welcome to as long as it fits within the rules that we have on this site. In this topic, however, let's be respectful to everyone and stay focused on the events that happened.

Also, as for only 1% of Japan being Christian, I'm not sure what the point of that comment is, but it doesn't mean they don't believe in God or that they are lesser than another group of people. Or that prayers, regardless of your beliefs, are pointless. It's about just being a decent person and letting others know you care, however it is that you express that.

All right, all right!

Sorry!
I know it was stupid what I said. I guess I'm just nervous like most of us here.

Heck, I even heard that a Nuclear plant there blew up. Guess there's really a reason to be nervous about.

And no, I am not a Conspiracy-theorist. It was just one of the first things that hopped in my mind. With all the recent Nature disasters and all...

I'm just a stupid kid, so what do I know about it?

I updated the site's header to help direct people to the news post about ways you can donate to the Red Cross to help with the Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami.

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... ami/21039/