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3. KOs
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Autobot032 wrote:I realize LC's post seems negative, but this is the internet and tone isn't always conveyed easily. He might've meant it in a different light and you might be reading into it too much. It works both ways.

Maybe you're right.

Also didn't mean to come off as ripping the site...was just making a point.

So I have received my KO versions of Battle Tanker and decided to post some pictures to help people make their decision on whether to buy these or wait for the upgraded versions from Maketoys at almost triple the price. At Chimungmung.com these cost $50 each plus $15 shipping if you don’t need the box which is the same as the original, no new colors or graphics. They almost match the quality of the original Maketoys version, (which I own) except a few flaws. Some nitpickers might not like the flaws, but for me personally, they aren’t worth stressing or shelling out another $90 bucks for the upcoming official versions.

• The leg/boots take extreme force to slide into the bottom of the trailer and are almost impossible to get out without loosing the screws on the legs to unlatch from the slots. With that being said, if you don’t plan on using the tanker mode often, its no big issue.
• The KO comes with the old head without the screw. The one Maketoys told us to boil in hot water to make it fit. I know a lot of necks were broken forcing these heads on. With a small hand file, I shaved a little bit of the hole bigger and made the heads fit on with a nice easy fit. Not too tight, not too loose, and easy to remove without damaging the neck of your figure.
• No problems at all with the armor on the robot mode. Snaps on tight like the official version. L.E.D. lights worked fine but only came with one battery to keep it from turning on during shipping. Maybe if you buy the boxed versions it might have the 2nd battery. Beautiful yellow and clear glow on the large swords in the dark. Also included was the KO drift swords. The one with the Ultra Magnus set was especially nice with a blue handle, and goes great with Botcon Gigatron.
• There will be no pictures of the Ultra Magnus set on Botcon Ultra Magnus in robot mode. I found out the hard way that attaching the wrist clips will chip the paint on this expensive figure. DONT DO IT…You will screw up your figure !!! So instead I used RTS Laser Prime until I get my G2 Combat Hero Prime from BBTS. All other versions of this mold don’t have paint on the part where the clips attach so no damage will be done.
• While the upcoming Maketoys version has red wrists, the KO sports blue wrists and is much more accurate to the original image of G2 Laser Prime. You can even paint the face plate red since it’s just a KO without fear of devaluing your set. I never understood why people would want to use this mold as SG Ultra Magnus anyways. Isn’t that what D.I.A. Commander is for ?
• While the upgraded shoulders on the upcoming Maketoys version are cool, chances are they will probally be KOed too. We have seen KO black missile launchers for Shadow Commander, red KO Scythes for Protector, so in my opinion, these extra parts will probably fall victim to KOs too in a nice $20 set. And who attaches an RPG to a chain and starts swinging it around anyways ?
• These guys did a great job of adding extra details that go perfect with the Botcon figures. The blue and purple plastic were matched perfectly. Especially the faded silver on both looks great. And like it or not, the credit goes to the KO guys for coming up with these paint schemes. The official Maketoys versions was just a knee-jerk response to these KO’s.
• My Recommendation: Save $90 bucks and get the KOs. And don’t use it on Botcon SG Ultra Magnus unless you don’t care about chipped paint. That goes for the official versions too. The clips are just as tight.

Here are some pictures I took, as well as an image of G2 Combat Hero Prime which is what I think the Ultra Magnus version works best for. Enjoy…

Thanks for the pictures!

but I think I'm going to spend the extra money on the official upgraded SG magnus version. judging from your pics your KO SG Magnus when put with a regular prime looks kind of the same as a regular tanker with a laser prime.

mooncake623 wrote:Thanks for the pictures!

but I think I'm going to spend the extra money on the official upgraded SG magnus version. judging from your pics your KO SG Magnus when put with a regular prime looks kind of the same as a regular tanker with a laser prime.

That is correct. The Botcon Shattered Glass Ultra magnus is the only version of the mold with the forearms painted. (in red) All other versions of the mold have the forearms unpainted and are safe. You will chip and ruin the paint on your Botcon figure if you try to clip on the armor to these painted forearms. And that's with either the official Battle Tanker or the KO version. The clips are both equally tight. So the next best thing is to display this set on the Combat Hero Prime version of the mold. There is no paint to chip on the arms. But if you go that route, remember combat hero Prime has blue arms like the KO, not red like the Maketoys version will have. I have no intrest in pretending this figure is Ulltra Magnus. I have D.I.A. Commander for that.

yea i remember the hands being painted red.. that is in issue.. but we don't know how the new version of the mold is.. whos to say its just as tight? will just have to wait and see on that. and you don't like him as Ultra Magnus? that new head is a 1000 times better UM head then anything I've seen FP city commander included. but that's just my opinion.

mooncake623 wrote:yea i remember the hands being painted red.. that is in issue.. but we don't know how the new version of the mold is.. whos to say its just as tight? will just have to wait and see on that. and you don't like him as Ultra Magnus? that new head is a 1000 times better UM head then anything I've seen FP city commander included. but that's just my opinion.

Im comparing the tightness of the KO clips to that of the official version. Same tightness on both. Plus the edges arent rounded. Trying to press it on is how I scratched mine. Big mistake. If you really want to gamble $140 hoping they addressed this problem in regards to the Botcon painted arms, good luck. I wouldnt bet on it personally.

Also, whether you prefer the SG universe or the Diaclone Uuniverse (like me) I dont see Ultra Magnus for the upcoming Maketoys version. I see a G2 Laser Prime body with an Ultra Magnus head. I do however see Combat Hero Prime with this mold, with the KO being slightly more accurate in colors. Just my opinion. I dont collect SG as a continuity. I just collect classic molds of evil Primes and Diaclone repaints for my oddities shelves.

I'm not going to gamble at all. I will wait for reviews. I will throw a preorder on BBTS to secure it first though. show us a pic of the combat hero prime when you get it if possible.

Thanks

mooncake623 wrote:I'm not going to gamble at all. I will wait for reviews. I will throw a preorder on BBTS to secure it first though. show us a pic of the combat hero prime when you get it if possible.

Thanks

The only people who have combat hero Prime are those who ordered them directly fro Hasbro Toy Shop. BBTS gets them later this month, but Im not shipping my loot until assualter comes in.

Only thing is, if you pre-order with BBTS, your credit card will get charged way before anybody gets it in their hands and puts up a review. I just got charged for Asia exclusives Bruticus Maximus today from BBTS. No video reviews out on that yet to my knowledge. Just "In the box images"

yea I actually have combat hero prime in hand. had it for over a week actually. BBTS puts a charge on your CC but that's just to get your info ready. no charge ever goes through until item is in stock and I plan to cancel it before they ever get it in stock. for now i want to lock it in just in case they sell out.

mooncake623 wrote:yea I actually have combat hero prime in hand. had it for over a week actually. BBTS puts a charge on your CC but that's just to get your info ready. no charge ever goes through until item is in stock and I plan to cancel it before they ever get it in stock. for now i want to lock it in just in case they sell out.

Seeing any reviews on youtube before your card gets charged is not likely. Unless some Asian collector who buys it from Robotkingdom gets it first and does a review.

It's entirely possible the MT people or the KO people will make a trailer specifically for that version of Prime. You may want to wait for that since it doesn't look like the blues match exactly.

Seeing any reviews on youtube before your card gets charged is not likely. Unless some Asian collector who buys it from Robotkingdom gets it first and does a review.

no I will cancel before they come in stock. only placing preorder just in-case it will be a hard to come by item.

Hey, remember that KO of Maketoys Battle Tanker which was later revisioned and released by Maketoys at a later date, well I have just been browsing old pictures of both the KO version and the official version which got me to thinking.

With either version, wouldnt it be rather nice and possibly believable as a character homage, if someone like Hasbro or more likely CHMS got to making a WHITE version of the G2 Optimus Prime mold, making a rather cool Ultra Magnus, you know, like what usually happens?

Seeing a white version of that mold popped into the blue version of the Battle Tanker armour would be pretty sweet I think!

Someone get me CHMS on the phone, NOW!!

robotmel wrote::-?
Hey, remember that KO of Maketoys Battle Tanker which was later revisioned and released by Maketoys at a later date, well I have just been browsing old pictures of both the KO version and the official version which got me to thinking.

With either version, wouldnt it be rather nice and possibly believable as a character homage, if someone like Hasbro or more likely CHMS got to making a WHITE version of the G2 Optimus Prime mold, making a rather cool Ultra Magnus, you know, like what usually happens?

Seeing a white version of that mold popped into the blue version of the Battle Tanker armour would be pretty sweet I think!

Someone get me CHMS on the phone, NOW!!

Would love to see that... for a reasonable price.

this is cool actually, i broke a part on my legit maketoys battletanker now maybe i can replace it with a ko without having to pay a shitload for a new battletanker!