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Mkall wrote:...so apparently all of this was for nothing

Planet X wrote:Sorry that I think there are some misunderstanding. This is not a confirmation for us to produce all 6 dinobots, we just share this nice picture with everyone. But definitely we are discussing with our teams for each dinobots possibilities. Hope we can announce our next product soon.

Oh well, it was fun to imagine a world with Paddles.

That's one of the worst cop outs I've ever read.

Doctor McGrath wrote:

Mkall wrote:...so apparently all of this was for nothing

Planet X wrote:Sorry that I think there are some misunderstanding. This is not a confirmation for us to produce all 6 dinobots, we just share this nice picture with everyone. But definitely we are discussing with our teams for each dinobots possibilities. Hope we can announce our next product soon.

Oh well, it was fun to imagine a world with Paddles.

That's one of the worst cop outs I've ever read.

Hopefully its a cop out that gives us a WFC FOC Trypticon instead.

Is the P X facebook poll still open or did it end? if its over,who won? WFC FOC Trypticon was in the lead when I placed my vote.

With as well received as generations Metroplex was don't you think it would be financially risky for them to make a Trypticon? Because I'm willing to bet Burn's upcoming Metroplex winnings that Hasbro is making a Trypticon.

njb902 wrote:With as well received as generations Metroplex was don't you think it would be financially risky for them to make a Trypticon? Because I'm willing to bet Burn's upcoming Metroplex winnings that Hasbro is making a Trypticon.

I don't think Hasbro will make a Trypticon, and if they do, it will probably be a retooled FOC Grimlock. Hasbro likes their bad guys tiny, remember?

I would dread to think how much a Planet X Trypticon would cost, given it would have to be over twice the mass of their Omega Supreme.

njb902 wrote:With as well received as generations Metroplex was don't you think it would be financially risky for them to make a Trypticon? Because I'm willing to bet Burn's upcoming Metroplex winnings that Hasbro is making a Trypticon.

Maybe for the fans.....

Titan Metroplex sold poorly in stores in the USA. Due to most USA retail stores not stocking it on shelves. Because it was too exspensive & took up too much valuable retail shelf space.

Even though Titan Metroplex sold decent on most retail stores online sites. I don't think the sales numbers were that high to deem it a success. Most USA retail stores with online sites have much lower volume of there items on there sites.

I'd be curious to get Hasbro's opinion on,If online sales were high enough to deem Titan Metroplex a sales success. Hasbro probably will never share this info with fans.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:

njb902 wrote:With as well received as generations Metroplex was don't you think it would be financially risky for them to make a Trypticon? Because I'm willing to bet Burn's upcoming Metroplex winnings that Hasbro is making a Trypticon.

Maybe for the fans.....

Titan Metroplex sold poorly in stores in the USA. Due to most USA retail stores not stocking it on shelves. Because it was too exspensive & took up too much valuable retail shelf space.

Even though Titan Metroplex sold decent on most retail stores online sites. I don't think the sales numbers were that high to deem it a success. Most USA retail stores with online sites have much lower volume of there items on there sites.

I'd be curious to get Hasbro's opinion on,If online sales were high enough to deem Titan Metroplex a sales success. Hasbro probably will never share this info with fans.

How do you know it sold poorly in retail stores? You have no numbers to go by besides a few people saying it's shelf-warming or they never restock. Hasbro will never share sales info with us so lets wait until toyfair to see if they announce a Trypticon if they do than we can assume sales went well.

mooncake623 wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:

njb902 wrote:With as well received as generations Metroplex was don't you think it would be financially risky for them to make a Trypticon? Because I'm willing to bet Burn's upcoming Metroplex winnings that Hasbro is making a Trypticon.

Maybe for the fans.....

Titan Metroplex sold poorly in stores in the USA. Due to most USA retail stores not stocking it on shelves. Because it was too exspensive & took up too much valuable retail shelf space.

Even though Titan Metroplex sold decent on most retail stores online sites. I don't think the sales numbers were that high to deem it a success. Most USA retail stores with online sites have much lower volume of there items on there sites.

I'd be curious to get Hasbro's opinion on,If online sales were high enough to deem Titan Metroplex a sales success. Hasbro probably will never share this info with fans.

How do you know it sold poorly in retail stores? You have no numbers to go by besides a few people saying it's shelf-warming or they never restock. Hasbro will never share sales info with us so lets wait until toyfair to see if they announce a Trypticon if they do than we can assume sales went well.

Ditto - we have no actual numbers to go by. What we have is anecdotal evidence, which is never something you want to rely on. Empirical evidence might include:

-BBTS' initial and secondary shipments completely sold out (3rd shipment pending)
-TFsource is completely sold out
-CostCo completely sold out (1 region, of 8, saw clearance prices below 79.99, but that was isolated)

Given this, I don't think you can say Titan Metroplex did poorly.



At any rate, I'd much rather see Planet X give the FOC Dinobots a whirl. Trypticon was WFC. By the time Planet X figures out how to even deal with a figure that big, we'll be on to the next thing. I think playing off of FOC designs, especially when you have the potential to get fans hooked on an entire team, is a smart move.

Metroplex sold out in the TRUs in my area.
So there is my personal anecdotal evidence.

As far as a trypticon, I'd want one to match Metroplex in size, so I think it would be pretty cost prohibitive for a 3rd party to make one.

I'm all in for a set of Dinobots though. Caelus is in my POL and ready to ship, so I'm excited. But it is smart to put out the team while the reference material of the game is still relevant.

megatronus wrote:

mooncake623 wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:

njb902 wrote:With as well received as generations Metroplex was don't you think it would be financially risky for them to make a Trypticon? Because I'm willing to bet Burn's upcoming Metroplex winnings that Hasbro is making a Trypticon.

Maybe for the fans.....

Titan Metroplex sold poorly in stores in the USA. Due to most USA retail stores not stocking it on shelves. Because it was too exspensive & took up too much valuable retail shelf space.

Even though Titan Metroplex sold decent on most retail stores online sites. I don't think the sales numbers were that high to deem it a success. Most USA retail stores with online sites have much lower volume of there items on there sites.

I'd be curious to get Hasbro's opinion on,If online sales were high enough to deem Titan Metroplex a sales success. Hasbro probably will never share this info with fans.

How do you know it sold poorly in retail stores? You have no numbers to go by besides a few people saying it's shelf-warming or they never restock. Hasbro will never share sales info with us so lets wait until toyfair to see if they announce a Trypticon if they do than we can assume sales went well.

Ditto - we have no actual numbers to go by. What we have is anecdotal evidence, which is never something you want to rely on. Empirical evidence might include:

-BBTS' initial and secondary shipments completely sold out (3rd shipment pending)
-TFsource is completely sold out
-CostCo completely sold out (1 region, of 8, saw clearance prices below 79.99, but that was isolated)

Given this, I don't think you can say Titan Metroplex did poorly.



At any rate, I'd much rather see Planet X give the FOC Dinobots a whirl. Trypticon was WFC. By the time Planet X figures out how to even deal with a figure that big, we'll be on to the next thing. I think playing off of FOC designs, especially when you have the potential to get fans hooked on an entire team, is a smart move.

What?

What we do know is most USA major retail stores never stocked the Titan Metroplex on store shelves. USA Stores like Target,Walmart,Kmart never stocked this item on store shelves. Toys R Us stores barely stocked this item on store shelves for a month or Two last year with barely one or Two on the shelves. Cosco had limited supply. So going by all this info,Yes,Titan Metroplex did sell poorly in stores. As most stores refused to stock the item on shelves due to the high price tag & the huge shelf space it needed.

We all know most USA Retail stores that have internet sites like target,walmart,kmart,TRU. Barely stock there on-line sites with toys,most have skeleton toys stocks. once stuff sells out,it takes forever to restock. So even if Titan Metroplex did sell out on-line. the online ordering volume was so low that it wasn't enough to make titan metroplex a success in sales in America.

The USA TRU.com site didn't list Titan Metroplex in the Transformers section. Visitors on the TRU.com site had to type in the word Metroplex to see the listing. So basically parents,kids,buyers,had to know about metroplex before hand,as the listing was almost invisble on the site. TRU.com did a poor job of listing Metroplex on there site,This no doubt hurt sales of this item.

Man! I was so looking forward to a full set of Dinobots!!!
Planet X is a big bot-tease...

I'd like a Trypticon one day but I'd much rather have the Dinobots now, especially if Paddles is involved.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:What?

What we do know is most USA major retail stores never stocked the Titan Metroplex on store shelves. USA Stores like Target,Walmart,Kmart never stocked this item on store shelves. Toys R Us stores barely stocked this item on store shelves for a month or Two last year with barely one or Two on the shelves. Cosco had limited supply. So going by all this info,Yes,Titan Metroplex did sell poorly in stores. As most stores refused to stock the item on shelves due to the high price tag & the huge shelf space it needed.

Limited/Exclusive distribution is not uncommon (see: Masterpieces), and I don't think you would say that the TRU Masterpieces sold poorly. Would you?

Tsutsukakushi wrote:We all know most USA Retail stores that have internet sites like target,walmart,kmart,TRU. Barely stock there on-line sites with toys,most have skeleton toys stocks. once stuff sells out,it takes forever to restock. So even if Titan Metroplex did sell out on-line. the online ordering volume was so low that it wasn't enough to make titan metroplex a success in sales in America.

"We all know" is the universal way of saying you've got ZERO proof. Do you have delivery manifests that verify how much stock was received? I didn't think so. When you have proof, feel free to share. Until then, stop presenting your conjecture as fact. It's embarrassing.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:The USA TRU.com site didn't list Titan Metroplex in the Transformers section. Visitors on the TRU.com site had to type in the word Metroplex to see the listing. So basically parents,kids,buyers,had to know about metroplex before hand,as the listing was almost invisble on the site. TRU.com did a poor job of listing Metroplex on there site,This no doubt hurt sales of this item.

"No doubt" is also a universal sign of ZERO proof. Show me the sales numbers.

megatronus wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:A bunch of unsubstantiated stuff.

A very nice rebuttal of which I agree.

I like what Megatronus said. Plus, I'm pretty sure the Target I regularly frequent had this on the shelf. It sold almost right away. (I only remember seeing the one.)

[Edit] And some real data?
[Edit2] However, I do not find any in stock near me. But it has been some time since this was released...

Just to be clear I never said they sold well, like various people have said there are no figures. I only said it was well received.

I bought my Metroplexi online, with the exception of the SDCC variant.

Agamemnon wrote:

megatronus wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:A bunch of unsubstantiated stuff.

A very nice rebuttal of which I agree.

I like what Megatronus said.

Thanks!

njb902 wrote:Just to be clear I never said they sold well, like various people have said there are no figures. I only said it was well received.

I bought my Metroplexi online, with the exception of the SDCC variant.

Metroplexi

craggy wrote:

megatronus wrote:

Sodan-1 wrote:I really wish Planet X would clarify in plain English exactly how many of the Dinobots they're making. I got a refund on Caelus because I just couldn't deal with that lump of a tail on Hasbro's Grimlock.

What does Grimlock's tail have to do with getting a refund on Caelus?

I think Sodan thought Planet X weren't making Grimlock. I think, that as a result of this, and his displeasure with Hasbro's version, he decided against collecting the set of FOC Dinobots. I think he's voicing his wish that PX would have made clear their intent to make their own Grimlock, that he could have kept Caelus and waited to collect the whole set. I think.

Bingo.

I really like Caelus, but I'm an all-or-nothing sort of collector these days.

Banjo-Tron wrote:I guess if that no-one else was going to come up with a better FOC Grimlock, it was a deal-breaker to getting any others. I can just about live with the tail, the huge gap in the belly, on the other hand...

Also yes.

So I finally brought Caelus to get free shipping at toy arena cause they have SH figuarts Goku in stock! =D Really hope I'm going to like this guy. Guess I'll be on board with the rest of the planet X Dinobots too now.

mooncake623 wrote:Guess I'll be on board with the rest of the planet X Dinobots too now.

mooncake623 wrote:So I finally brought Caelus to get free shipping at toy arena cause they have SH figuarts Goku in stock! =D Really hope I'm going to like this guy. Guess I'll be on board with the rest of the planet X Dinobots too now.

Thanks for sharing this information mooncake . I just ordered Goku i also bought Frieza today as well

Autobot Genocide wrote:

mooncake623 wrote:So I finally brought Caelus to get free shipping at toy arena cause they have SH figuarts Goku in stock! =D Really hope I'm going to like this guy. Guess I'll be on board with the rest of the planet X Dinobots too now.

Thanks for sharing this information mooncake . I just ordered Goku i also bought Frieza today as well

Ha!!! Awesome! Glad your getting into the line! Heheh can't wait to see your pictures!

This guy looks amazing. I hope they do Slag, Snarl and Sludge- if they ddo I'll be getting them all + FOC Grimlock + the Iron Factory add-on (that's the one with the "wings" that allow a perfect transformation, right?).


Anyone know where would be the best place to buy Caelus from (I live in the UK)? He's out of stock on TFSource, and whilst I've seen him on Robotokingdom I don't know if they ship to the UK...

Delta Magnus wrote:This guy looks amazing. I hope they do Slag, Snarl and Sludge- if they ddo I'll be getting them all + FOC Grimlock + the Iron Factory add-on (that's the one with the "wings" that allow a perfect transformation, right?).


Anyone know where would be the best place to buy Caelus from (I live in the UK)? He's out of stock on TFSource, and whilst I've seen him on Robotokingdom I don't know if they ship to the UK...

Robotkingdom does ship to the UK, I've bought several things and never had a problem.

Think all of these needed to get released last year when the FOC hype was at it highest. Think sales would have been higher last year.

Don't think sales or demand for these FOC Dinobots will be that high this year. Due to so many buying the TF4 Dinobots and the 3rd party MP G-1 Dinobots toys.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Think all of these needed to get released last year when the FOC hype was at it highest. Think sales would have been higher last year.

Don't think sales or demand for these FOC Dinobots will be that high this year. Due to so many buying the TF4 Dinobots and the 3rd party MP G-1 Dinobots toys.

I just brought swoop and I never played the game.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Don't think sales or demand for these FOC Dinobots will be that high this year. Due to so many buying the TF4 Dinobots and the 3rd party MP G-1 Dinobots toys.

I think they will be. G1 MP Dinobots are nice, and the Movie Dinobots are a good side-collection, but collectors have never had the opportunity to get all 5 G1 Dinobots in the Classics scale. These represent the first set of them.

Sure they're not as G1 as some people would like, but they're pretty damned good for a lot of people.