The Energon Pub

This was inspired by the last preds vs preds fight that had the usual g1 beats BW responses. But this time I add a twist to what the guy who did the last fight had,

Picture an alternate universe almost like the ones you know except that Scorponok and Terrorsoar survived the Vok death machine. This swells the BW predacons ranks to Megatron, Terrorsoar, Scorponok, Waspinator, Tarantulas, Black Arachnia, Inferno, Quickstrike, Rampage, and the dinobot clone.

Now picture theG1 predacons being sent through time to stop them.

now add this twist. BW megatron has a weeks warning and time to plot,plan, and prepare. Tarantulas, Scorponok, and Arachnia are already making predaking countermeasures, etc.

Now who wins?

Predaking was HUGE even with G1 measures, he was 1.5 times bigger than the average gestalts, and we saw in Beast Wars that the biggest predacon (Megatron) is about the size of Optimus' head.
So the BW predacons would be like insects compared to Predaking. But with time, the BW cons could maybe develop technology to counter his size (but I don't think so)

To quote his tech spec:

"Predaking has no known weaknesses."

Predaprince wrote:To quote his tech spec:

"Predaking has no known weaknesses."

Sure, but one thing. With time to plan ahead of time I doubt the G1 predacons even have time to form predaking. Remember the BW ones in this fight have time to plan for the battle and the G1 predacons (cartoon version at least, which is the one I was exposed to) are dumb as a post. How do I think the battle will happen?

Easy, first megatron picks a location, though the Vok super weapon did wipe out most of earths energon their are a few caves, valleys, and such sheltered enough to have levels that would put a metallic transformer into stasis lock. If needed he could have the scattered energon gathered and stockpiled in a keylocation to overload levels by his troops. megatron fights their. He remakes his transformation lock weapon with tarantulas help, while scorpinok whips up a nasty virus.

The G1 predacons whose only saving intellectual trait was they are just slightly smarter than the terrorcons do as they always do and attack besially. Megatron uses the form lock device on one of them, scorpinok uses a virus (which of course backfires but still messes them up) on another. That leads to two G1 cons more or less out of the fight when it comes to the predaking issue. From their on megatron sends his units on a hit and run fight, sacrificing his predacons to the bigger stronger G1 cons until only he remains. But before the G1 predacons can do anything energon overload puts them in stasis lock so megatron can now take and reprogram him to his wishes. What if the predaconsactually *gasp* use weapons and not resort to bestial rage? unlikely, but in that case megatron would try and use his expendables... err... troops to keep them by the energon and setit to explode destroying them.

But remember the G1 Predacons were more or less master hunters. Even if the BW Preds devised one or two strategies that could outwit the G1s, it's basically only a matter of time before the real Predacons figure it all out. The G1 Predacons can't be that stupid becuase en masse as Predaking, they are pretty bright, as Predaking is smarter than the average gestalt form. And, as Predaprince points out, "Predaking has no known weaknesses." The toughest part of this fight will be Predakings' aim in stepping on the much smaller Preds. Size and strenght ain't everything, but they're enough.

BW Megatron could beat them with preptime. He only needs to outlast them since gestalts use pretty high amounts of energon.

So some kind of elaborate trap should be in order


Although, Razorclaw isn't exactly stupid either:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/ ... orclaw.jpg

That depends on if Megs is his Transmetal 2 body, really. If so, he'd be much more powerful, and could always use the fact that he houses Megatron's spark as a bargaining chip to distract the G1s, while Rampage set up to unload on them. I mean, come on...its freaking Rampage! A giant transmetal Crab-tank with an immortal spark!

'Nuff said.

Apex Convoy wrote:That depends on if Megs is his Transmetal 2 body, really. If so, he'd be much more powerful, and could always use the fact that he houses Megatron's spark as a bargaining chip to distract the G1s, while Rampage set up to unload on them. I mean, come on...its freaking Rampage! A giant transmetal Crab-tank with an immortal spark!

'Nuff said.

Hmmmm... Yes, I didn't think of this modifier. Tm2 Megs has good chances against any G1 predacon 1-on-1, and together with Rampage they could wreck Predaking to its components... However, the G1 predacons are an elite team of hunters. I'd say, if every BW predacon have their final TM form, then this battle would be equal, and would only depend on the modifiers (who surprises who, terrain...) I say 50-50 in that case.

I would like to see this fight, though. The thought of Inferno fighting G1 characters is just too good to pass up, hahaha.

Predaking wins. This group was the best of the best that the G1 Cons had to offer. Did someone in this post actually say they were dumb as posts? I dont remember the cartoon versions that well but the comic versions never were. These guys are being sent to stop the BW guys right? then they have had time to plan as well. and they can improvise on the spot too. The REAL Predacons, the G1 guys, win this easy. I mean think about it, the Decep offspring stole thier name for primus' sake. Why do you think they would do that?

azraelus wrote:Predaking wins. This group was the best of the best that the G1 Cons had to offer. Did someone in this post actually say they were dumb as posts? I dont remember the cartoon versions that well but the comic versions never were. These guys are being sent to stop the BW guys right? then they have had time to plan as well. and they can improvise on the spot too. The REAL Predacons, the G1 guys, win this easy. I mean think about it, the Decep offspring stole thier name for primus' sake. Why do you think they would do that?

Actually your points support my reasons for why the G1 Preds win.

First off neither the cartoon or comic versions are dumb at all. Razorclaw had genius level intellect and the rest of his crew were at the very least possessed of average intelligence. Razorclaw was well known for his analytical mind and being able to find the weakest point of anyone and strike at it.

The G1 Preds once tracked down and nearly killed the original Megatron in the comics. They were considered legendary hunters and soldiers even in their own time. The only thing the BW Preds have going for them is their advanced weaponry which I believe is scaled down to their own size. If the G1s can form Predaking that's the ultimate coup de grace. Nothing the BW Preds can throw at Predaking could stop him.

Then there's the fact that the BW Predacons didn't actually steal the name from the G1s. In fact it was revealed in the Botcon exclusive Transformers:Timelines Dawn of Futures Past one shot (and hinted at in IDWs Beast Wars: The Gathering) that the G1 Predacons actually founded the BW Predacon faction. So even if the BW Preds could defeat the originals their timeline (and themselves) would be wiped out completely. These insurmountable odds all add up to the originals destroying the BW era Preds (seeing as how the G1s wouldn't have knowledge of their future acts and would see the BW Preds attack as a threat) and possibly spawning a brand new alternate reality in the process.

And yes, it would be common knowledge to the BW Preds who founded their faction. So they therefore would be stuck in a losing predicament. All they could do is try to stasis lock the originals and send them back to the past. Anything more, so much as a single death of one of the G1s, would cause their reality to cease to exist.

Predaking shoots the others with an air rifle and wins.