The Energon Pub

The alt-mode picture looks good, but that pre-order price is just too much for me and my intended buying over the next half year.

My only hope is that the arms are well constructed and have industrial strength ratcheting. The forearms/fists/rocket/claw just look to bulky to be attached to something that slim.

So we are left with 2 WFC/FOC homages, neither of which particalarly fit the 'classics' aesthetic, but it looks like one will be half the price of the other. HasTak wins this one. On a split points decision!

Looking at the BBTS preorder... "shipping weight 11.20 pounds"!? Holy crap.

Pre-order links:


BBTS: http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=PLNX10000&mode=retail&picture=in
RobotKingdom: http://robotkingdom.com/services/eshop/main.php?action=details&CatType=&II=PLANETX001&lang=us&CatID=

Yeah, YOTS Omega for me. Way too pricy for this guy. 2013 can't get here soon enough for me and Omega!

Nah.

BBTS cancelled all it's preorders...

"Hi - upon further consideration of this item, we have decided not to carry it. We have cancelled preorders and removed it from our website. I'm very sorry for the inconvenience. If you are still interested, Robot Kingdom has this item listed and will fill any orders placed.

Thanks
www.bigbadtoystore.com"

ZenPrime wrote:BBTS cancelled all it's preorders...

"Hi - upon further consideration of this item, we have decided not to carry it. We have cancelled preorders and removed it from our website. I'm very sorry for the inconvenience. If you are still interested, Robot Kingdom has this item listed and will fill any orders placed.

Thanks
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com"

Yep, just read that in my inbox. It's too bad but I can see why. It appears to be an exact replica of the WfC character model for Omega Supreme and Hasbro and/or High Moon could certainly pursue legal action if they chose to. BBTS, being based in the US, has to be a lot more careful about that kind of thing than other etailers.

xyl360 wrote:

ZenPrime wrote:BBTS cancelled all it's preorders...

"Hi - upon further consideration of this item, we have decided not to carry it. We have cancelled preorders and removed it from our website. I'm very sorry for the inconvenience. If you are still interested, Robot Kingdom has this item listed and will fill any orders placed.

Thanks
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com"

Yep, just read that in my inbox. It's too bad but I can see why. It appears to be an exact replica of the WfC character model for Omega Supreme and Hasbro and/or High Moon could certainly pursue legal action if they chose to. BBTS, being based in the US, has to be a lot more careful about that kind of thing than other etailers.

As good as their cust service dept is, what a bunch of pu**ies...

Rated X wrote:

xyl360 wrote:

ZenPrime wrote:BBTS cancelled all it's preorders...

"Hi - upon further consideration of this item, we have decided not to carry it. We have cancelled preorders and removed it from our website. I'm very sorry for the inconvenience. If you are still interested, Robot Kingdom has this item listed and will fill any orders placed.

Thanks
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com"

Yep, just read that in my inbox. It's too bad but I can see why. It appears to be an exact replica of the WfC character model for Omega Supreme and Hasbro and/or High Moon could certainly pursue legal action if they chose to. BBTS, being based in the US, has to be a lot more careful about that kind of thing than other etailers.

As good as their cust service dept is, what a bunch of pu**ies...

I think this is probably more likely a case of BBTS not wanting to get stuck with a bunch of $350, 11lb, 3rd party figures that could have some serious QC issues (have these guys made anything else?). I mean, they still have various devies from Maketoy and TFC.

JRFitzpatrick7 wrote:

Rated X wrote:

xyl360 wrote:

ZenPrime wrote:BBTS cancelled all it's preorders...

"Hi - upon further consideration of this item, we have decided not to carry it. We have cancelled preorders and removed it from our website. I'm very sorry for the inconvenience. If you are still interested, Robot Kingdom has this item listed and will fill any orders placed.

Thanks
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com"

Yep, just read that in my inbox. It's too bad but I can see why. It appears to be an exact replica of the WfC character model for Omega Supreme and Hasbro and/or High Moon could certainly pursue legal action if they chose to. BBTS, being based in the US, has to be a lot more careful about that kind of thing than other etailers.

As good as their cust service dept is, what a bunch of pu**ies...

I think this is probably more likely a case of BBTS not wanting to get stuck with a bunch of $350, 11lb, 3rd party figures that could have some serious QC issues (have these guys made anything else?). I mean, they still have various devies from Maketoy and TFC.

You could be right, but those 3rd party Devies aren't anywhere near 100% exact representations of the characters they're supposed to homage. That Omega Supreme looks exactly like WfC Omega Supreme in both modes, down to the placement of the panel lines and gun turrets.

It's also possible that BBTS just doesn't expect to sell that many after seeing a low uptake of preorders given the fact the Hasbro will soon be releasing a G1 colored Energon Omega Supreme.

JRFitzpatrick7 wrote:I think this is probably more likely a case of BBTS not wanting to get stuck with a bunch of $350, 11lb, 3rd party figures that could have some serious QC issues (have these guys made anything else?). I mean, they still have various devies from Maketoy and TFC.

I would agree with your assessment. Anybody remember Sonicron? At least he was only $60, but BBTS had him on clearance for about half off for the longest time. I'd hate to know how much was lost on this guy (even though I purchased one at full price). I still think the forearms are going to be too heavy to support properly (a la City Commander's BFG).

Maybe if this company produced a few prototypes and had them make the rounds for about a month to get feedback, folks would feel more secure in their investment. Whether or not this changes BBTS' decision to carry the product remains to be seen.

necr0blivion wrote:

JRFitzpatrick7 wrote:I think this is probably more likely a case of BBTS not wanting to get stuck with a bunch of $350, 11lb, 3rd party figures that could have some serious QC issues (have these guys made anything else?). I mean, they still have various devies from Maketoy and TFC.

I would agree with your assessment. Anybody remember Sonicron? At least he was only $60, but BBTS had him on clearance for about half off for the longest time. I'd hate to know how much was lost on this guy (even though I purchased one at full price). I still think the forearms are going to be too heavy to support properly (a la City Commander's BFG).

Maybe if this company produced a few prototypes and had them make the rounds for about a month to get feedback, folks would feel more secure in their investment. Whether or not this changes BBTS' decision to carry the product remains to be seen.

Like I said before, this is another unknown, unproven 3P company. They needed to prove they could design and produce a good, small toy before taking on a project this big. It's no one's fault but theirs; their ambitions wound up biting them in the a$$. I don't blame BBTS at all for pulling out of this-it was one bad review away from being a total retail dud especially with YOTS Supreme looking so promising.

How much demand would this thing actually generate anyway? $350 for something that looks that bad.......looks like sound business sense from BBTS to me. And the IP issues......too close to home.

Darn.

I was hoping these would end up on clearance.

For about $100 I might have bitten on one.

Motorthing wrote:How much demand would this thing actually generate anyway? $350 for something that looks that bad.......looks like sound business sense from BBTS to me. And the IP issues......too close to home.

Gotta agree here.

ZenPrime wrote:BBTS cancelled all it's preorders...

"Hi - upon further consideration of this item, we have decided not to carry it. We have cancelled preorders and removed it from our website. I'm very sorry for the inconvenience. If you are still interested, Robot Kingdom has this item listed and will fill any orders placed.

Thanks
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com"

No surprise. And I don't blame BBTS one bit.

Motorthing wrote:How much demand would this thing actually generate anyway? $350 for something that looks that bad.......looks like sound business sense from BBTS to me.

I had one preordered, but only because I loved FoC and this was spot-on to how Omega looked in the game. That style, especially with his lankiness in the arms department and semi-funky alt-mode definitely isn't for everyone though.

JRFitzpatrick7 wrote:

Rated X wrote:

xyl360 wrote:

ZenPrime wrote:BBTS cancelled all it's preorders...

"Hi - upon further consideration of this item, we have decided not to carry it. We have cancelled preorders and removed it from our website. I'm very sorry for the inconvenience. If you are still interested, Robot Kingdom has this item listed and will fill any orders placed.

Thanks
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com"

Yep, just read that in my inbox. It's too bad but I can see why. It appears to be an exact replica of the WfC character model for Omega Supreme and Hasbro and/or High Moon could certainly pursue legal action if they chose to. BBTS, being based in the US, has to be a lot more careful about that kind of thing than other etailers.

As good as their cust service dept is, what a bunch of pu**ies...

I think this is probably more likely a case of BBTS not wanting to get stuck with a bunch of $350, 11lb, 3rd party figures that could have some serious QC issues (have these guys made anything else?). I mean, they still have various devies from Maketoy and TFC.

That too. But Im sure they could have ordered a small stock of say 25 to test the waters. Im personally going for the Hasbro version. This one looks like a big dumb ape. I dont play video games, so my knowledge of WFC/FOC is limited to the toy line. But I would love to see a guardian repaint of the Hasbro version from Takara.

That assumes you can order only 25 units. I doubt you could order so little.

BBTS shies away from things that are too close to Hasbro's stuff (although, for some reason, they seem to still favor Impossible Toys) so I'm guessing that's the primary reason for them rejecting this. Not that it was for me. I just can't get into the look.

Holy flippin' cow!!!

That is AWESOME!!!

No sign of those lanky arms guys!
Get those pre-orders placed again, eh?

robotmel wrote:=P~
Holy flippin' cow!!!

That is AWESOME!!!

No sign of those lanky arms guys!
Get those pre-orders placed again, eh?

LOL! Sometimes silluhettes are not the way to go, this looks awsome in full view.

Still not sold on it, however. Mainly because there's just too much coming out.

Looking a lot better than before, but at this point... for the price it's going for... I'll have to wait on reviews before I throw down that kind of cash.

Still, very very nice.