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News Credits: 5749 · by **El Duque** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:57 am

And our third piece of news from our friends over at the CyberGundam blog, Takara Tomy have announced a Generations two-pack featuring the IDW style Orion Pax and Stealth Bomber Megatron Deluxes. Hard to tell from the grainy image, but these will most likely feature the line's signature paint. Check them out below.

Like MagnetarPrime on Facebook · by **MagnetarPrime** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:23 am

I like Orion Pax robot and car mode,,about time we get this figure,,, as for Megatron,,, he looks bad ass.

News Credits: 15 · by **Ravage XK** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:54 am

Only thing I don't like is Prime's err Pax's head hatch.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:13 am

Pretty anachronistic figure pairing.

Ravage XK wrote:Only thing I don't like is Prime's err Pax's head hatch.

But it look like him:

News Credits: 15 · by **Ravage XK** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:20 am

Its not blue!!

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:25 am

Ravage XK wrote:Its not blue!!

Looks blue (w/ a silver face) to me.

The toy, that is.

by **Rated X** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:27 am

The comic book head looks dumb. It's basically Prime with a mouth. They should have made it G1 anime style. I hope a 3rd party company can fix this. With a head fix, I would be interested in a metallic Orion. Megatron, not so much.

News Credits: 15 · by **Ravage XK** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:28 am

Sabrblade wrote:
Ravage XK wrote:Its not blue!!
Looks blue (w/ a silver face) to me.

The toy, that is.

The head flap, behind his head. Its red, nothing a little paint wont fix and hardly a major issue.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:39 am

Rated X wrote:The comic book head looks dumb. It's basically Prime with a mouth. They should have made it G1 anime style.

1. G1's cartoon was not an anime.
2. This is not Cartoon Orion Pax. Get over it.

Ravage XK wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Ravage XK wrote:Its not blue!!
Looks blue (w/ a silver face) to me.

The toy, that is.

The head flap, behind his head. Its red, nothing a little paint wont fix and hardly a major issue.

Same with the Hasbro version.

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:21 am

Holy metallic paint, Batman! :shock:

Both are done beautifully. I really want that Megatron... no wait, I want Dreadwing more than I want Megatron. Dammit. :BANG_HEAD:

I have zero problems with Orion Pax. The shininess is strong with him. =P~

News Credits: 34 · by **Supreme Convoy** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:58 am

Neat!

I just bought the new Legends Optimus. I would love to get this Megatron to pair these Don Figueroa/IDW redesign figures.

News Credits: 2 · by **xyl360** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:45 pm

Mindmaster wrote:Holy metallic paint, Batman!

Both are done beautifully. I really want that Megatron... no wait, I want Dreadwing more than I want Megatron. Dammit.

I have zero problems with Orion Pax. The shininess is strong with him.

Hehe, the shininess is calling me too

. I was going to skip these molds initially, however these pics have convinced me that it won't be that easy. I'll likely give in to Takara's paint powers and put in preorders after all (once they become available that is).

by **Rated X** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 5:41 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Rated X wrote:The comic book head looks dumb. It's basically Prime with a mouth. They should have made it G1 anime style.
1. G1's cartoon was not an anime.
2. This is not Cartoon Orion Pax. Get over it.

So the G1 cartoon is not American made anime style ? That’s news to me. People generally consider The Headmasters, Supergod Masterforce, and Victory anime. I would think the similar style of drawing puts the American versions in the anime class as well. Theyre all the same drawing style, same characters. I guess if the humans don’t look like elves with huge hairdos, some people wont consider it true anime. Just my opinion.

Optimus with a mouth just flat out sucks. He sucked in Animated. He sucked in Bayverse. A G1 head would be an improvement. That’s all Im saying. Calling in the good Dr. Wu for a head transplant…

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:05 pm

Rated X wrote:So the G1 cartoon is not American made anime style ? That’s news to me. I guess if the humans don’t look like elves with huge hairdos, some people wont consider it true anime. Just my opinion.

Officially, anime cartoons are cartoons created by Japan, for Japan first and foremost, with international markets taking second priority.

The G1 cartoon was made for America by American companies Marvel and Sunbow, who only outsourced the animation to studios in Asia, namely Toei in Japan and AKOM in Korea.

Lots of non-anime American cartoons have their animation outsourced to overseas studios. The Simpsons, Batman: The Animated Series, Animaniacs, Muppet Babies, and even Transformers: Prime, to name a few. But none of these cartoons are anime due to their West origins and intended audiences.

Even shows like Avatar: The Last Airbender and Teen Titans aren't anime, despite of their animation being heavily and obviously influenced by anime art styles, due to them being American creations.

Rated X wrote:Optimus with a mouth just flat out sucks.

Good thing this is "pre-Optimus", then.

Rated X wrote:He sucked in Animated.

Opinion, not fact.

Rated X wrote:He sucked in Bayverse.

Opinion, not fact.

Rated X wrote:A G1 head would be an improvement. That’s all Im saying Call in the good Dr. Wu for a head transplant…

And again, opinion, not fact.

Also, behind the scenes, G1 cartoon Optimus did have a mouth:

We just never saw it because there was another cel for his faceplate placed over it for his speaking animations.

by **Rated X** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:31 pm

Sabrblade, one picture is worth a thousand words...

News Credits: 2 · by **Nemesis Destron** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:09 pm

Rated X wrote:Sabrblade, one picture is worth a thousand words...

That just made my day....thanks Sabrblade! :VEHI:

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:22 pm

Rated X wrote:Sabrblade, one picture is worth a thousand words...

I see nothing wrong with that image.

All I see is a happy example of the heart and soul of the 1980s Generation 1 depicted in a joyful, picturesque display.

Anyone who doesn't think the Generation 1 era was as cheesy and charming as seen in this artwork is fooling themselves.

Nemesis Destron wrote: That just made my day....thanks Sabrblade!

That was X, not me.

by **Rated X** » Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:01 am

You comic book fans trip me out lol. In my OPINION, IDW ruined Orion Pax. In G1 he used to be way more cool. A totally different character than Optimus. He even had a chick.

All IDW did was turn him into baby Optimus Prime. Kind of like Hot Rod before he became Rodimus.

News Credits: 2 · by **xyl360** » Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:41 am

Rated X wrote:You comic book fans trip me out lol. In my OPINION, IDW ruined Orion Pax. In G1 he used to be way more cool. A totally different character than Optimus. He even had a chick.

Sadly, in the cartoon he only existed for a single episode, so beyond him being a trusting, naïve simpleton, we didn't really get to learn much at all about him.

I didn't read the comics either, but the cartoon sure did leave some terrible gaps and it's very unfortunate (particularly given how many of us, myself included) how many of us base our 'personal canon' on the cartoon since so much of what our canon consists of were nothing more than one-off episodes and singular events that somehow define the universe where the Transformers live in our heads.

I don't think I fight the change from G1 quite as much as you though, and I embrace newer continuities a bit more easily (although I also criticize them quite a bit too, but usually because they are trying to be G1, not because they're different from it).

Still, I would like to see a toy of the G1 cartoon Orion Pax.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:06 pm

Also, that pic of the "smiling Optimus" you posted, X, that's not from a comic book.

That's from a 1980s children's storybook.

A little-known one at that, that barely anyone in the fandom outside of only the most diehard of fans (without using TFWiki) would know anything about, much less would have even read it.

News Credits: 5749 · by **El Duque** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:09 am

Thanks to e-Hobby we have some nice clear high res images of Takara Tomy's Transformers Generations TG-25 Orion Pax vs. Megatron set. The set features the Deluxe Orion Pax and Stealth Bomber Megatron molds based on recent IDW Publishing comic appearances. These Takara Tomy versions have the line's signature metallic paint, check out the all the shiny goodness below.