The Energon Pub

[william-james88]

I am not convinced this is IDW roller. It fits his color scheme in robot mode but that may be more of an homage. This is how his bio translates to:

And separated from one's fellow during the battle, the original Autobot warrior who was wandering Between dimension.
The transformation to Roku-rin armored vehicles.
I continued to wait for the relief of alone fellow he was torn absolute lonely soul.
He was considered to be abandoned to the trust to have the fellow is dominated by despair and guilt, leading to soon have a strong grudge energy.
It has been summoned to this world sensed the energy to Unicron.
It had lost some of the stored by long wandering, we are holding a particularly strong hatred against the convoy commander is a symbol of Cybertron.

This hints far more at G1 roller, especially since they use the word "Original". The way I read it, he was lost to his autobot brethren when Optimus died in he movie and was stuck lost in all dimensions, abadonned. Then he turned into an armoured vehicle. G1 (show) Roller does have the same colout scheme as the vehicle mode he has here.



I think he is angry at optimus for having let himself get killed, leaving Roller stranded across dimensions. And in Any case they mention him being angry at Prime (convoy) and not Orion Pax. Orion became Optimus way later so this bio doesnt line up at all with IDW.

I believe that this combiner is very similar to the Most Wanted theme of last year's Botcon with a bunch of randomness and dimension hopping with the fiction made up just to accompany some interesting toys.

[Sabrblade]

Here's a much better translation of the bio, Will:

Wandering Roller

Wanders the space between dimensions after being separated from his comrades in the heat of battle, he was originally a Cybertron warrior. Transforms into a 6-wheeled armored vehicle. Roller's spirit was destroyed by absolute solitude while awaiting rescue by his sole comrade. Believing himself abandoned by his trusted comrade, he became ruled by despair and self-condemnation to the point where he eventually carried strong malicious energy. That energy was sensed by Unicron, who brought him to this world. His memory is patchy due to his long wanderings, but he still bears an incredible hatred for the symbol of the Cybertrons: Supreme Commander Convoy.

[RhA]

Can we just be clear here: his right arm is a ghost. He has a ghost right arm.

This is my favourite post in this thread so far.

Agreed!

[D-Maximal_Primal]

While Will's translation does make sense making this G1 Roller, the deco, look, robot mode and the fact that IDW Roller would feel more abandonment due to his situation and the Grand Convoy toy they are releasing is IDW inspired while heavily homaging energon, I still feel this is IDW Roller, the 6-wheeled design and vehicle mode color making this a nice vehicle mode reference to G1 Roller, while the robot mode really looks IDW Roller-ish

[william-james88]

Here's a much better translation of the bio, Will:

Wandering Roller

Wanders the space between dimensions after being separated from his comrades in the heat of battle, he was originally a Cybertron warrior. Transforms into a 6-wheeled armored vehicle. Roller's spirit was destroyed by absolute solitude while awaiting rescue by his sole comrade. Believing himself abandoned by his trusted comrade, he became ruled by despair and self-condemnation to the point where he eventually carried strong malicious energy. That energy was sensed by Unicron, who brought him to this world. His memory is patchy due to his long wanderings, but he still bears an incredible hatred for the symbol of the Cybertrons: Supreme Commander Convoy.

Oh well, at least you guys can get where I was coming from. One thing though, who is Supreme Commander Convoy? And would that mean that IDW Roller has waited millenias to ake revenge at who has now become Optimus Prime?

[Cobotron]

The good news? This Roller can be what ever Roller you want/need it to be.
A dash of imagination, pinch of salt, stir, and... presto!

[Bronzewolf]

Roller. Roller Roller Roller. I need a blue version. That would be amazing. Roller was the second (technically) 'Former I ever got. So special attachment factor there. (though I frankly hate the lore. Roller joining the Decepticons? Riiiggght.)

He's not THAT Roller. He's a different Roller.

Aw. You're right. Dammit!

[Sabrblade]

Oh well, at least you guys can get where I was coming from. One thing though, who is Supreme Commander Convoy?

This guy:

And would that mean that IDW Roller has waited millenias to ake revenge at who has now become Optimus Prime?

...Yes?

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Here's a much better translation of the bio, Will:

Wandering Roller

Wanders the space between dimensions after being separated from his comrades in the heat of battle, he was originally a Cybertron warrior. Transforms into a 6-wheeled armored vehicle. Roller's spirit was destroyed by absolute solitude while awaiting rescue by his sole comrade. Believing himself abandoned by his trusted comrade, he became ruled by despair and self-condemnation to the point where he eventually carried strong malicious energy. That energy was sensed by Unicron, who brought him to this world. His memory is patchy due to his long wanderings, but he still bears an incredible hatred for the symbol of the Cybertrons: Supreme Commander Convoy.

Oh well, at least you guys can get where I was coming from. One thing though, who is Supreme Commander Convoy? And would that mean that IDW Roller has waited millenias to ake revenge at who has now become Optimus Prime?

Well here is a little imagination at work: this may not be IDW Roller or G1 Roller, But one from another dimension where G1 and IDW Roller were the same, being Optimus' best friend and closest compatriot, who was lost in a very similar manner to IDW Roller. His vehicle mode resembles G1 Roller, and robot mode resembles IDW Roller. He feels abandoned since he was lost like IDW Roller, and Prime moved on. Prime has also become a combiner, so now he sees a chance to get vengeance on a Convoy supreme

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Oh well, at least you guys can get where I was coming from. One thing though, who is Supreme Commander Convoy?

This guy:

And would that mean that IDW Roller has waited millenias to ake revenge at who has now become Optimus Prime?

...Yes?

Makes sense. Roller was lost 4.2 million years, so that is a long time to get a grudge. Plus, let us not forget he was trying desperately to upgrade himself, so he was desperate and he was feeling obsolete, with Pax being his one true friend, and he couldnt get past the fact that he felt outdated and lonely

[no-one]

Oh well, at least you guys can get where I was coming from. One thing though, who is Supreme Commander Convoy?

This guy:

Who? Not ringing a bell. Looks like a cool bot though.

The good news? This Roller can be what ever Roller you want/need it to be.
A dash of imagination, pinch of salt, stir, and... presto!

Cobs to the rescue!

[Dr. Caelus]

Prime Breakdown is listed as a Decepticon, rather than a Destron, right? So wouldn't IDW Roller be listed as an Autobot, rather than a Cybertron?

The good news? This Roller can be what ever Roller you want/need it to be.
A dash of imagination, pinch of salt, stir, and... presto!

Yeah, I think I'd be attaching United Roller to CW Optimus Maximus, and maybe attaching CW Offroad to Galvatron. There's nice symmetry with Breakdown.

[Cobotron]

Yeah, I think I'd be attaching United Roller to CW Optimus Maximus, and maybe attaching CW Offroad to Galvatron. There's nice symmetry with Breakdown.

Now that's a tasty Scramble!

[steals_your_goats]

I find it interesting that the release date for this one is so far out. Prime is coming out in January right? So there's a 3 month gap between releases. That also makes me wonder what else they'll be doing. We know Bruticus is coming but that probably won't be until June at the earliest. So will they stop there and not release sky reign, Victorion and Computron since titans return will be starting by summer of next year? Or will unite warriors continue to run and titans return will take over the legends series? Anyone have any thoughts?

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Prime Breakdown is listed as a Decepticon, rather than a Destron, right? So wouldn't IDW Roller be listed as an Autobot, rather than a Cybertron?

Nope: the rule of thumb is that any pre-movie franchise uses the Japanese faction names, that includes G1, Car Robots/RiD, Unicron Trilogy and any modern off-shoots thereof. Live Action Movies, Animated and Prime all use the US names.

[Hellscream9999]

I find it interesting that the release date for this one is so far out. Prime is coming out in January right? So there's a 3 month gap between releases. That also makes me wonder what else they'll be doing. We know Bruticus is coming but that probably won't be until June at the earliest. So will they stop there and not release sky reign, Victorion and Computron since titans return will be starting by summer of next year? Or will unite warriors continue to run and titans return will take over the legends series? Anyone have any thoughts?

They'll probably continue, remember, they got a very late start. If I had to guess, I'd say they have to wait to get the molds from hasbro (and funpub, as they also want several of the molds - rook, offroad, etc)

This set proves that they want to give their fans all the molds they can, therefore, I'd imagine that they will do all of the mainline releases - as to the box sets, one can only guess, as those would probably end up being released by TT around next christmas

[steals_your_goats]

I find it interesting that the release date for this one is so far out. Prime is coming out in January right? So there's a 3 month gap between releases. That also makes me wonder what else they'll be doing. We know Bruticus is coming but that probably won't be until June at the earliest. So will they stop there and not release sky reign, Victorion and Computron since titans return will be starting by summer of next year? Or will unite warriors continue to run and titans return will take over the legends series? Anyone have any thoughts?

They'll probably continue, remember, they got a very late start. If I had to guess, I'd say they have to wait to get the molds from hasbro (and funpub, as they also want several of the molds - rook, offroad, etc)

This set proves that they want to give their fans all the molds they can, therefore, I'd imagine that they will do all of the mainline releases - as to the box sets, one can only guess, as those would probably end up being released by TT around next christmas

Well if it takes until Christmas of next year at least I have plenty of time to save up I really want to see what they'll do for Victorion. Hopefully a slightly better color scheme. I don't mind the Hasbro one but I would love to see some extra colors to break it up. Same with sky reign.

[LOST Cybertronian]

So how long until somebody does a regular Starscream?

[Hellscream9999]

So how long until somebody does a regular Starscream?

Ya, know? I think that's the question we all want answered now... I think that was one of the first things said about the aerialbots: when are they giving us seekers (said with many (now ironic) exasperated eye-rolls). Now I want to know why no one ever did - need me some limbs

[Gearslide]

So how long until somebody does a regular Starscream?

Ya, know? I think that's the question we all want answered now... I think that was one of the first things said about the aerialbots: when are they giving us seekers (said with many (now ironic) exasperated eye-rolls). Now I want to know why no one ever did - need me some limbs

Thrust's head even seems designed to be a generic Conehead too! So it wouldn't surprise me to see the original 6 Seekers as limbs at some point in the future.

[Hellscream9999]

So how long until somebody does a regular Starscream?

Ya, know? I think that's the question we all want answered now... I think that was one of the first things said about the aerialbots: when are they giving us seekers (said with many (now ironic) exasperated eye-rolls). Now I want to know why no one ever did - need me some limbs

Thrust's head even seems designed to be a generic Conehead too! So it wouldn't surprise me to see the original 6 Seekers as limbs at some point in the future.

I don't think TT would, but I seriously expected some half-a$$ed recolors splurged out by hasbro - they even tooled in a pair of seeker heads , but it seems beyond their focus on the dumb 's that nobody asked for

[Jelze Bunnycat]

So how long until somebody does a regular Starscream?

Ya, know? I think that's the question we all want answered now... I think that was one of the first things said about the aerialbots: when are they giving us seekers (said with many (now ironic) exasperated eye-rolls). Now I want to know why no one ever did - need me some limbs

Thrust's head even seems designed to be a generic Conehead too! So it wouldn't surprise me to see the original 6 Seekers as limbs at some point in the future.

I don't think TT would, but I seriously expected some half-a$$ed recolors splurged out by hasbro - they even tooled in a pair of seeker heads , but it seems beyond their focus on the dumb 's that nobody asked for

Well, as a rule every shell has to have at least two regular heads, and the Autobot Cars and Decepticon Jets were perfect candidates to fill in some of the gaps for the Stunticon and Aerialbot mold. They're iconic enough to guarantee at least some sales from the overall public.

[Gearslide]

So thanks to his limbs, Grand Galvatron has Phantom Limb, Wandering Syndrome, and Dead Leg. Sounds miserable.

[Hellscream9999]

So how long until somebody does a regular Starscream?

Ya, know? I think that's the question we all want answered now... I think that was one of the first things said about the aerialbots: when are they giving us seekers (said with many (now ironic) exasperated eye-rolls). Now I want to know why no one ever did - need me some limbs

Thrust's head even seems designed to be a generic Conehead too! So it wouldn't surprise me to see the original 6 Seekers as limbs at some point in the future.

I don't think TT would, but I seriously expected some half-a$$ed recolors splurged out by hasbro - they even tooled in a pair of seeker heads , but it seems beyond their focus on the dumb 's that nobody asked for

Well, as a rule every shell has to have at least two regular heads, and the Autobot Cars and Decepticon Jets were perfect candidates to fill in some of the gaps for the Stunticon and Aerialbot mold. They're iconic enough to guarantee at least some sales from the overall public.

Yeah, except that, instead of getting the decepti-jets, we got another set of dumb 's, they could have made skylynx onslaughts wavemate and made a combiner the final one to even out the teams a little...

Who is sky lynx's wavemate? Have there been rumors, is it the alt color onslaught, is it a cool, evil version of sky lynx, is it another scattershot that doesn't look like computron in torso mode

[Hellscream9999]

So thanks to his limbs, Grand Galvatron has Phantom Limb, Wandering Syndrome, and Dead Leg. Sounds miserable.

THIS