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Marcdachamp wrote:Starscream's line about hitch-hikers had me dying. Good ep.
Moonbase2 wrote:Finally about to watch this one. I've come to really love this show.
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
mitchsantona wrote:Mission Impossible - When Optimus opened the grate to rescue the Elite Guard and then briefly fell suspended above the floor like Tom Cruise
When he crawled through the air duct, that was like Die Hard. Falling out held up via cables was like Mission Impossible.Marcdachamp wrote:mitchsantona wrote:Mission Impossible - When Optimus opened the grate to rescue the Elite Guard and then briefly fell suspended above the floor like Tom Cruise
I got more of a Boondock Saints feel from that one, honestly.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Rial Vestro wrote:"Ultra" before he became a Magnus and that's the lamest Transformers name I've ever heard. Even worse than Leader-1 (originally a Go-Bot name but was still used for Transformers as well.)
Rial Vestro wrote:Allso wrap this thought around your mind but not too hard...
Sentinal Magnus
Now try this one on for size...
Ultra Sentinal
Even with Sentinal's name Ultra sounds better as the title. The first one sounds like he and Ultra Magnus became combiners and that's their combined name.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:in terms of Animated, the rank comes AFTER the name.
I know so far the ranks on the show have been Minor, Prime, and Magnus all following the actual name of said Transformer
I would of made Ultra his title and base it on the original character rather than basing the rank on being the suffix in their name.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:While Ultra is a fine enough name by itself, Ultra, as a title, is not. "Ultra Sentinel" "Ultra Optimus" they sound like bad fan characters.
As for Magnus, it happens to be Latin for "Great" while Ultra is Latin for "Beyond." So it sort of makes sense in that regard. "Sentinel the Great" makes a bit more sense than "Beyond Sentinel."
The News reporter bot in "The Return if the Headmaster" referred to both Optimus as "Prime" when was with Sentinel and confused them both, as the both responded "Yes?" at the same time.Rial Vestro wrote: Allthough characters have refered to OP as "Optimus Prime" "Optimus" and "Prime" but no one calls him "Prime" when there's multiple "primes" in the same scene that would be a little confuseing.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Rial Vestro wrote:And Sentinal Magnus or Optimus Magnus don't sound like bad fan characters? Personally I still think they sound like they combined with Ultra Magnus rather than takeing a new title.
Rial Vestro wrote:As for the whole Translation thing his name would just be "Sentinal Great" not "Sentinal the Great" so either way the translation just doesn't make any sence. Beyond Great is fine but either of thoughs paired with anything else doesn't sound right.
Rial Vestro wrote:Ultra Sentinal I think sounds fine. Cound be better but when the only other option is Sentinal Magnus that just sounds like a bad combiner team.
Rial Vestro wrote:Pluse you really think "Ultra" is an OK name by itself? Hey Ultra, how are you Ultra, I'm going to kill you Ultra. Any way you use it as a name on it's own it just sounds like an unfinished sentence.
Rial Vestro wrote:Now add that to the fact that Ultra Magnus has never, even in Animated, been refered to by the name "Ultra". Any time any G1, RID, or Animated character has said his name it's allways been "Ultra Magnus" or "Magnus". Allthough characters have refered to OP as "Optimus Prime" "Optimus" and "Prime" but no one calls him "Prime" when there's multiple "primes" in the same scene that would be a little confuseing. But both Optimus and Prime sound fine on their own as a name. "Ultra" just doesn't sound good on it's own.
Rial Vestro wrote:Ultra is typically used as a description for something else, Ultra Man, Ultra Magnus, Ultra Powerfull, which is why no matter how you use it in a sentence it just sounds like you're speaking in incomplete sentences, trying to describe something that isn't mentioned.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:Rial Vestro wrote:Ultra is typically used as a description for something else, Ultra Man, Ultra Magnus, Ultra Powerfull, which is why no matter how you use it in a sentence it just sounds like you're speaking in incomplete sentences, trying to describe something that isn't mentioned.
Except it's NOT a broken sentence, because it is the name of a character. You are confusing adjectives with nouns.
Rial Vestro wrote:Frankly I don't care how either part of the name sounds with Sentinal or how either part sounds on it's own. The main reason Ultra should be the rank is because the character's name was originally Magnus and that's all that really should matter.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:Rial Vestro wrote:Frankly I don't care how either part of the name sounds with Sentinal or how either part sounds on it's own. The main reason Ultra should be the rank is because the character's name was originally Magnus and that's all that really should matter.
No, the character's name was originally Ultra. In G1 and RID, yes, it may have been Magnus, however, this is a DIFFERENT CHARACTER. Homage means he'll look and sound and maybe even act the same but that does not dictate every aspect of the character.
Rial Vestro wrote:Shadowman wrote:Rial Vestro wrote:Frankly I don't care how either part of the name sounds with Sentinal or how either part sounds on it's own. The main reason Ultra should be the rank is because the character's name was originally Magnus and that's all that really should matter.
No, the character's name was originally Ultra. In G1 and RID, yes, it may have been Magnus, however, this is a DIFFERENT CHARACTER. Homage means he'll look and sound and maybe even act the same but that does not dictate every aspect of the character.
No, the character's name was originally MAGNUS! G1 Is the original character. Animated may be named Ultra to begin with because someone screwed up on the name there but that is not the original name because he is not the original character. The original name was MAGNUS! Ultra was added with his battle armor.
Rial Vestro wrote:Lets try this a different way.
I don't know if you're familiar with Red vs. Blue but there's a character named Simmons. They turn him into a cyborg and call him Simons 2.0 now you translate his name into Animated terms the way Ultra Magnus was and then you'd have a character named 2.0 with Simons being his rank. Now how stupid does that sound.
Or try real life terms. If someone changed a person's name like they did Animated Ultra Magnus everyone would be named Admiral, Captain, Commander, LT., Cadet, Ensign, Doctor and their ranks would be Jim, Charlie, Ben, Johnny, Peter, Dorian, Cameron. Someone could call me Mr. Hermes but Hermes would be my rank and my name would be Mr.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
People wrote:zombybunnie: N_V scares me...I no longer wish that my pants transformed
Burn:Anyone notice how much of a boring party pooper N_V is? He doesn't join in the fun, he's spent the last few years with dodgy builds feeding XP to the Autobots, and he sure as heck doesn't spam.
disruptor96: I forgot how insane you were.
Name_Violation wrote:shadowman-1
artist formerly known as saber prime-0
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:Name_Violation wrote:shadowman-1
artist formerly known as saber prime-0
He does this all the time; he'll start an argument, use poor logic, and never, ever admit being wrong, even if he is.
People wrote:zombybunnie: N_V scares me...I no longer wish that my pants transformed
Burn:Anyone notice how much of a boring party pooper N_V is? He doesn't join in the fun, he's spent the last few years with dodgy builds feeding XP to the Autobots, and he sure as heck doesn't spam.
disruptor96: I forgot how insane you were.
Shadowman wrote:See, you're getting very confused; G1 is not Animated, and vice versa. Just because something applies to G1 does not mean it applies to Animated. As such, Animated Ultra Magnus and G1 Ultra Magnus ARE NOT THE SAME CHARACTER, and no matter how much you argue this you will never be right.
You are completely, 100% lost. We've already discussed this: In terms of Cybertronian Rank in animated, the name comes first, the rank comes second. That you're now trying to use that as an argument simply shows how badly you're trying to grasp at straws.
But using that logic, Optimus Prime, Rodimus Prime, and Sentinel Prime, are all named Prime.
Just give it up. You're not getting anywhere with this.
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