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Which to them are their innards.Shadowman wrote:Sabrblade wrote:They're still people having their innards graphically torn out of their bodiesShadowman wrote:Sabrblade wrote:They are robots
Which is why that "gore" was allowed on TV; if it's robots, it's not really gore, just broken machinery. You can argue the semantics all you like, it won't change that.
No, they're robots having mechanical components being ripped out.
The majority of censored content was due to the subject matter, though.Shadowman wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The folks at the CW likewise felt that it was too graphic to show onscreen, and so cut that whole sequence out during that episode's airing on that channel.
I seem to recall you mentioning the CW broadcast removing a lot of content, not all of which was omitted due to simple subject matter.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Which to them are their innards.Shadowman wrote:Sabrblade wrote:They're still people having their innards graphically torn out of their bodiesShadowman wrote:Sabrblade wrote:They are robots
Which is why that "gore" was allowed on TV; if it's robots, it's not really gore, just broken machinery. You can argue the semantics all you like, it won't change that.
No, they're robots having mechanical components being ripped out.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Nor does their being robots not make them people in their case. They're as alive as any human is; a point which the franchise has gone to great lengths over the decades to illustrate.Shadowman wrote:Yeah, and? It doesn't make them not robots that their interior mechanic components are inside them.
Never saw it.Shadowman wrote:Do you just bawl when you see that scene from Office Space where they smash the printer or what? Must be like Saw for you.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Nor does their being robots not make them people in their case. They're as alive as any human is; a point which the franchise has gone to great lengths over the decades to illustrate.Shadowman wrote:Yeah, and? It doesn't make them not robots that their interior mechanic components are inside them.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Nowadays they are considered organisms, especially when the show itself openly says so.Shadowman wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Nor does their being robots not make them people in their case. They're as alive as any human is; a point which the franchise has gone to great lengths over the decades to illustrate.Shadowman wrote:Yeah, and? It doesn't make them not robots that their interior mechanic components are inside them.
Yeah, I saw Short Circuit. "Alive" is not part of the issue. They're non-organic beings (Which the Beast Era went to great lengths to illustrate) and thus "gore" does not apply to them as it would a human.
There is a huge difference between artificially-made Earthen appliances and naturally-occurring, sentient, sapient, silicon-based, alien organisms.Shadowman wrote:Point is, at no point did Prime get anywhere near as dark Batman TAS. One robot breaking another doesn't prove that it is, it just shows you're just so sensitive that you're likely to weep over a broken toaster.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
It's gore for the Cybertronians. You keep looking at this from a human-centric perspective when that has never been what I was talking about. Put yourself if their shoes. Their being robots, was never in doubt, but their nature of being robots isn't the same nature as like, as I mentioned before, ASIMO is a robot. Or to use a TF example, Nightbird. You wouldn't call her the same type of robot as the Transformers, would you? Wheeljack and Ratchet sure didn't.Shadowman wrote:Okay. Good for you. Great. That does not change my point in the slightest. It was allowed on screen because they're robots (And please keep arguing that in a thread titled "Robots in Disguise") and thus do not count as actual gore.
How is the first episode of Prime not part of the same continuity as Prime?Shadowman wrote:Robots have been used to get around putting gore in things. (You ever notice lightsabers got more use in Star Wars once the bad guys primarily became droids?) Arguing semantics like "Oh, they're actually organisms 'cause it was mentioned like, once in one continuity that isn't even canon with this one" does not make them not robots.
What happened in that clip is in a whole different ballpark than the stuff that went down in Prime. Bane's exaggerated design when he puffs up becomes unrealistically cartoony, and Batman stops anything really graphic from actually happening anyway. And, Bane's also, you know, not killed. Had Bane's body exploded or started to have bodily fluids oozing out of his skin or his eyes or had any part of his insides exposed onscreen and in a realistic manner, then that would have been too far. Instead, Timm and Dini were, as you said, clever enough to show something painful and disturbing in a subtle enough manner rather than diving full on into areas of the uber grotesque and depressing.Shadowman wrote:Meanwhile, in Gotham City, this happened. Timm and Dini managed to get around the censors by being careful and clever about it. (They had implied lesbians twenty years before Korra did it)
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:That was, far and away, the stupidest thing you have ever said. It's gore the the Cybertronians?
Yeah, I'm sure **** cartoon characters don't have much of a voice with the censors, that's the issue.
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
PrymeStriker wrote:Shadowman wrote:That was, far and away, the stupidest thing you have ever said. It's gore the the Cybertronians?
I find the irony in these two sentences very amusing.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:How so? Oh, I made a typo,
and thus I'm "stupid?"
Cute.
Call me back when you have any argument other than "robots get broken, and it must be painful for them, despite being cartoon characters, and despite Transformers in prior series suffering far worse (Hi, Waspinator!)."
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
PrymeStriker wrote:What's the use in trying?
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
CARTOON NETWORK ACQUIRES GLOBAL RIGHTS TO HASBRO STUDIOS’ NEWEST SERIES, TRANSFORMERS: ROBOTS IN DISGUISE
Next Series in Beloved Franchise to Air on Cartoon Network Channels in Europe, Latin America, Asia, Africa and the Middle East Following Earlier U.S. Deal
Los Angeles, Jan. 13, 2015 – Cartoon Network has acquired the global rights to start airing the brand new series, TRANSFORMERS: Robots in Disguise, beginning in 2015. The agreement follows Cartoon Network’s previous U.S. deal for the show with Hasbro Studios, the Los Angeles-based entertainment division of Hasbro, Inc. (NASDAQ: HAS). Stephen Davis, Chief Content Officer of Hasbro, Inc., made the announcement today.
“We are thrilled to have expanded our ongoing international relationship with Cartoon Network, freeing them to unleash our Transformers characters to the entire world starting early this year,” Davis said. “Fans everywhere will now be able to experience the humor, fun, adventure and cooler, lighter, brighter animated style that our Autobots and Decepticons deliver as we open up the next storytelling chapter in this beloved franchise on Cartoon Network around the globe, from hubs in the U.S. and Europe to Latin America, Asia, the Middle East and Africa.
Finn Arnesen, senior VP of global distribution and development for Hasbro Studios, added, “Cartoon Network makes a tremendous launch pad for TRANSFORMERS: Robots in Disguise. Complemented by additional Turner channels, Cartoon Network provides the ideal fit across the board for our series, reaching a core demographic of boys 6-11 and kids of all ages.”
The mission begins as Bumblebee must step up to be leader in the years after we left the Autobots in Transformers Prime. Summoned by Optimus Prime to save Earth from a new Decepticon threat, Bumblebee puts his light-hearted mettle to the test after assembling a rouge team of young Autobot action heroes. Bumblebee must balance his job fighting off evil with being equal parts squad leader and coach to a rascally band that needs constant coaxing to learn how to work together. The results are comical when the cool rebel, elite guard cadet, bombastic dinobot and overly excited mini-con must balance team-building with chasing and capturing their new enemies in every episode packed full of action, fun and adventure.
The highly innovative TRANSFORMERS franchise is one of the biggest brands in the world, spanning television, film and digital entertainment (including the 2014 global blockbuster, TRANSFORMERS: AGE OF EXTINCTION, the fourth in the hit film series); as well as gaming; apps; publishing; transmedia events; toys, games and licensing.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
This is news how?rpetras wrote:Great!
The first three episodes will be on an endless loop for 3 weeks, then the show will be off air for 4 months, then return to the juicy 5:30 AM Sunday morning time slot.
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Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Shockwave7 wrote:Gone crawling back to CN, eh? Looks like "the HUB" isn't the cat's meow they thought it would be. Oh wait - the "HUB" doesn't exist anymore, it's 'Discovery Kids' or some such thing. I guess they couldn't make a go of having a network that was little more than reruns of cancelled 80s cartoons.
They'd have done better to just stay with CN and carry on Transformers Animated for a couple more seasons. The toys were better, and the show was good.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Like how Boomerang is now?dreadwing95 wrote:if i could run cartoon network i would try so hard to get it back to its former glory
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Who are the villains that the new team of Autobots will be tackling when Transformers: Robots in Disguise debuts on Cartoon Network this year? We're glad you asked! Check out an inside look at Steeljaw and his dastardly Decepticons!
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Nice to see this video again. We saw it on Hasbro's website with six other clips, but it's still awesome.
Steeljaw's looking and sounding as cool as ever. Can't wait to see him as the Cons' new de facto leader.
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