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wheres cyclonus or scourge forget starscream and thundercracker

I like this, and like many others, this makes me even more angry about the design/color choices on movie Starscream, Opinion Police, be damned.

I like the face more than Starscream's.

Nobody's whining about Bumblebee or Ironhide... So why is Starscream such a big deal?

I'm whining about Ironhide...

Why no love for Ironhide?

*ahem*

Seriously though, this is an ok repaint. I'm still not a great fan of the Movie Starscream mould, but the Head and paint job on TC do help to make it look better.


I'll see if it looks good enough in the shops, then decide.

Agamemnon wrote:Guys, guys, think. Starscream appears in the movie, and is subjected to the movie makers. Thundercracker isn't, so he is subject to Hasbro's re-painting whims.

The chances of a fan kitbash are slim. I think the chances are better that Hasbro is making money off of re-paints.

Don't they always?

Covenant wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:Starscream's been done to death, and I never liked him that much to begin with. So all the "more thjan just a name" people can lick me.

Not caring for such a huge break from traditional aesthetics for a character you never liked much to begin with kind of excludes one from getting it, no?

Also, *lick*

Point is, though... It seems to be ALL STARSCREAM. Why? Why is nobody getting all worked up over Bumblebee like that? Over Ratchet? Over Bonecrusher? My bafflement over the Starscream fandom is a separate issue... I just want to know, why is he so much more important than anyone else?

Kudos to Krump for whining about Ironhide, though... The face on that thing makes my head hurt in a very Escher-meets-Lovecraft way. Looking at the pictures, I just completely fail to be able to visualize it in three dimensions.

Ironhide reminds me a lot of his old G1 toy--- faceless.

It just looks like a black lump!



I guess Starscream is the worst treated of the transformers in the movie. Compare his head, his body to the others. Prime's modes are ok, Ironhide's are fine (part from that ruddy head- cowboy too far I think!), Ratchet's is meh, Blackout and Barricade (and Brawl!) look pretty decent.
Bumblebee is fine. He kinda reminds me of Sunstreaker with a big head.

The only other one so poorly treated is Megatron!
And realising that Megatron is so messed up that there is no salvation, people turn their attentions to Starscream. A decent altmode, but a bot mode that is obvious it could have been better.

*sigh*

Here's hoping that the transformers adapt to be more humanoid in Transformers the Movie- 2...

Nemesis Primal wrote:Point is, though... It seems to be ALL STARSCREAM. Why? Why is nobody getting all worked up over Bumblebee like that? Over Ratchet? Over Bonecrusher? My bafflement over the Starscream fandom is a separate issue... I just want to know, why is he so much more important than anyone else?

Well, I'd say he gets face time as he's one of the "worst-ly" departed, and ugly if I may say so. There's nothing speaking the name Starscream in this movie incarnation, and I mean that in regards to the icon of Starscream rather than Cartoon Starscream of comic book Starscream or whatever. The face, the body design, the color, even the alternative mode (though that one's understandable given this day & age and that this was originally meant to be an update - though now they've "updated" themselves into a full blown departure unfortunately). Even by the movie design standards, this new Starscream is disappointing. It's like they crossed a beast-mode-less Beast Wars Waspinator with a monkey.

Thing is, fans are up in arms about all characters in different ways, at different times, at different levels, in different places on & offline. There's been plenty of discussions/debates/arguments on Bumblebee, and Prime even, Megatron too. TFs like Screamers & the Bee get face time due to one being the self-righteous & vain hopeful leader of the Cons, the other being the main focused-on TF of the film, both being two legendary favorites in the fiction. Every Transformer in the film has had their moment in discussion. Depending on status in the fiction, usage in the film, and popularity in discussion at the time, one may get noticed over another.

It's a sad time for Thundercracker, he just as ugly as screamer. If they dropped the bloody red hole with fangs on it's face, then maybe he would rock, but no, aliens have to be so ugly, because they're ugly in real life... yup.

not bad repaint of thunercracker's but it look repaint from Starscream's alt mode..

Too bad that Tundercrackers head wasn't been the standard Starscream Movie design, because his head looks awesome.