The Energon Pub

Autobot032 wrote:You really have screwed this up, Hasbro. The First Edition toys were fine for both kids and collectors. You're pushing PRID on an audience that won't want it. It'll sell well in the beginning, but once the awe/wow factor wears off (which will be quick), you'll see sales plummet like a rock.

Animated 2.0? I think so. Your lesson, when will you learn it?

And to think, they probably actually thought they wanted to get on the Summer Movie Blockbuster Bus.

It could be worse. Look what the movies did to G.I. Joe....

I sent Hasbro an email, like a few of you guys... let's see if they offer a reason/response...

This makes no sense at all to me. True, we haven't seen that many prime figures around here, but the dorm line has been going for the better part of a year and is starting to get phased out. Tfp will be coming back on b4 long, so why not have as many prime items out there as possible? Even if there is a movie trilogy line, it won't be anything groundbreaking or that we haven't seen before. We haven't even gotten half the line over here. I would understand if they canceled it after everything was released, but this makes no sense to me. Maybe they didn't sell well everywhere else and they're basing this halfassed decision on that.......

Wait wait hang on.......... Can anyone confirm that they mean to stop ALL shipments to EVERYONE? I haven't heard anything that said they wouldn't ship to tru or the retails later (and yes I know I'm reaching but I reeeeeaaally want cliff an bulk

Laserwave13 wrote:@Rated X

Hi, i have read a lot about the CHMS stuff and that it has good to perfect quality but no, never had anything from them in hand to see for myself.

The Cromia and Medic repaints of Arcee were tempting and i consider those more like variations that are not officially available anyway. But i would hate it if i, say, like to buy and original Henkei Ghost Screamer from ebay and get a KO instead, even if it is a good KO. But i am not like totally against KO figures, it just depends which i would buy and which not. Anyhow, now i would not know were to get them anymore since this one special website were they have been offered is closed as we all know.
(would have ordered the Dino Cassettes, those are simply impossible to find original, not mentioning the price. Did they release the KO SG Rodimus and Henkei Wildrider or was it too late?)

Any yes, i´m a big fan of Animated
Still sad that there was no season 4 and not even a Season 3 DVD release

Well here is the answer to your question about SG Rodimus and Wildrider. I also included some other CHMS and KOLD quality gems in my collection. Also a pic of the real Henkei Ghost SS (left) compared to the KO Henkei Ghost SS (right). The paint is not as bright but definitely on par with the original. Enjoy.

And Hasbro take notes and learn…

Nothing against BBTS but any changes to my FE voyagers will be cancelled. This is bullshit Hasbro. Way to piss on the fans. I'm quickly getting to the point where I won't buy new figures,just buy older toys from ebay.

I will keep this short, sweet, and expletive free (no matter how much I would LOVE to say some).

Much like the majority of you, I am highly upset by these current happenings. I am glad I snagged the three FE that made it to the USA, and I am even happier that I thought ahead and plopped down some extra cash to get FE Cliffy before this news broke. Being a long time Transformers fan, I can honestly say this has been my favorite hobby for years...it's not just the collecting, but the hunting too. NEVER before have I seen such a "cluster-f***" as I have seen with Hasbro lately.

I don't post much on here, but I check in everyday. A feeling of frustration is driving me to type now. It all comes to this... We can all bitch and moan on here and other fan sites, OR maybe it's time we hit Hasbro where it hurts...in their wallets and in the public. There are hundreds of you that post on here religously, there are thousands like me that check in daily, and there are thousands more that love Transformers as much as we do but don't get involved. Forget random emails...forget whining on here... we need a concentrated email campaign and maybe even a petition made to Hasbro, but NOT just on Seibertron, we need to reach out to every Transformer Fan site out there!!

I for one am pissed at the FE situation...wasted gas and time popping in to TRU to chase ghosts. What compounds it all is the RID's don't look that great to boot. What do y'all think? Am I being to dramatic? I think we have the muscle to do something, we just need some organization.

Just a thought.

The next operative question is will there be any restocks of the Takara First Edition figures?

I'm not aware of any merchants who have presently have preorders up for FE Voyager Prime or Bulkhead, and I'm fairly certain that said merchants are well aware that they could sell more of them if they could get them, so my guess of the answer to this question is probably "no".

zatara1701 wrote:I don't post much on here, but I check in everyday. A feeling of frustration is driving me to type now. It all comes to this... We can all bitch and moan on here and other fan sites, OR maybe it's time we hit Hasbro where it hurts...in their wallets and in the public. There are hundreds of you that post on here religously, there are thousands like me that check in daily, and there are thousands more that love Transformers as much as we do but don't get involved. Forget random emails...forget whining on here... we need a concentrated email campaign and maybe even a petition made to Hasbro, but NOT just on Seibertron, we need to reach out to every Transformer Fan site out there!!

I for one am pissed at the FE situation...wasted gas and time popping in to TRU to chase ghosts. What compounds it all is the RID's don't look that great to boot. What do y'all think? Am I being to dramatic? I think we have the muscle to do something, we just need some organization.

No more dramatic then everything else being said here. Though I think bombarding their email system with complaints is just as effective, if not more so, than doing a petition. A petition would show the numbers on a single list, but, I can tell you, if Hasbro gets overwhelmed with emails from fans that'll stand out pretty damn well too.

Will tf source be getting the shipment of the Fe voyagers or not.
There are still stores like toys on fire taking orders for a march shipment of Fe optimus Wtf.

metaphorge wrote:The next operative question is will there be any restocks of the Takara First Edition figures?

I'm not aware of any merchants who have presently have preorders up for FE Voyager Prime or Bulkhead, and I'm fairly certain that said merchants are well aware that they could sell more of them if they could get them, so my guess of the answer to this question is probably "no".

Wouldnt it be funny if they start showing up in ROSS, TJ Maxx, and Marshalls in 6 months ???

I mean after Hasbro screwed everybody with RTS. 6 months later a mysterious s**t load of them started appearing in these stores.

The same thing happened with animated Wreck-Gar and HA Mudflap (at least in Miami)

zatara1701 wrote:I will keep this short, sweet, and expletive free (no matter how much I would LOVE to say some).

Much like the majority of you, I am highly upset by these current happenings. I am glad I snagged the three FE that made it to the USA, and I am even happier that I thought ahead and plopped down some extra cash to get FE Cliffy before this news broke. Being a long time Transformers fan, I can honestly say this has been my favorite hobby for years...it's not just the collecting, but the hunting too. NEVER before have I seen such a "cluster-f***" as I have seen with Hasbro lately.

I don't post much on here, but I check in everyday. A feeling of frustration is driving me to type now. It all comes to this... We can all bitch and moan on here and other fan sites, OR maybe it's time we hit Hasbro where it hurts...in their wallets and in the public. There are hundreds of you that post on here religously, there are thousands like me that check in daily, and there are thousands more that love Transformers as much as we do but don't get involved. Forget random emails...forget whining on here... we need a concentrated email campaign and maybe even a petition made to Hasbro, but NOT just on Seibertron, we need to reach out to every Transformer Fan site out there!!

I for one am pissed at the FE situation...wasted gas and time popping in to TRU to chase ghosts. What compounds it all is the RID's don't look that great to boot. What do y'all think? Am I being to dramatic? I think we have the muscle to do something, we just need some organization.

Just a thought.

This. I am pissed too. I even went to TRU today to try to find any of the RID figs. I couldn't even find one of them. I was so mad I just wanted to throw the shelf in the floor. Wasting time and gas money for nothing, so I only knocked over a few boxes...they where still on the shelves though. Hasbro really screwed themselves over this time.

Matrix_Holder wrote:I am so pissed that I am missing out on that awesome FE vehicon !!!! Everyone going to Botcon knows what to do, everyone that is pissed off...when at the Hasbro panel, everybody stand up and let Hasbro know that you are pissed off and make sure they know what they did wrong. I will be bringing this to their attention during TFCON.

No, no you won't. I don't mean you personally I mean the legion of board dwellers who, surprisingly around this time of year, find some fault with Hasbro that becomes a rallying point for them to bring up at Bot-Con.

Funny thing, once at Bot-Con nobody says a peep.

One can only assume that spice and vinegar disappears when one looks around the room at the 3 dozen other people who quite frankly are overjoyed to be there and really wouldn't appreciate some shut in ruining it for their kid. Also keep in mind that Hasbro at any point can say "Thank You Goodnight" if they think they're being disrespected; keep that in mind if you want to get 10 of your friends in line to ask the same question over. Also remember those 3 dozen other people I previously mentioned.

Don't get me wrong I'd love to see someone go after those stuff shirt MIT grads and make them sweat but that won't do much of anything for anyone except make 3 dozen folks mad at you; have I mentioned Dallas allows concealed carry?

So rant and rave all you guys want here, because come time for Bot-Con none of ya are gonna say a peep.

FYI Hasbro-Canada is almost as in the dark to the workings of Hasbro USA as we are.

Rated X wrote:Wouldnt it be funny if they start showing up in ROSS, TJ Maxx, and Marshalls in 6 months ???

I mean after Hasbro screwed everybody with RTS. 6 months later a mysterious s**t load of them started appearing in these stores.

The same thing happened with animated Wreck-Gar (at least in Miami)

Same here in NY. Only ever saw him in TJ Maxx and I was a hawk at TRU with Animated.

Really stupid that Hasbro can't seem to figure out how to get their merchandise out in general retail before it ends up going to discount stores. Great for the discount store mind you because we go buy them. But I imagine Hasbro loses a lot of money because those stores sell the toys for 40+% off and thus need to buy them far cheaper than Walmart and the rest of 'em to make a profit.

Well, we can hope the FE's go that route, but a part of me doubts it

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Matrix_Holder wrote:I am so pissed that I am missing out on that awesome FE vehicon !!!! Everyone going to Botcon knows what to do, everyone that is pissed off...when at the Hasbro panel, everybody stand up and let Hasbro know that you are pissed off and make sure they know what they did wrong. I will be bringing this to their attention during TFCON.

No, no you won't. I don't mean you personally I mean the legion of board dwellers who, surprisingly around this time of year, find some fault with Hasbro that becomes a rallying point for them to bring up at Bot-Con.

Funny thing, once at Bot-Con nobody says a peep.

One can only assume that spice and vinegar disappears when one looks around the room at the 3 dozen other people who quite frankly are overjoyed to be there and really wouldn't appreciate some shut in ruining it for their kid. Also keep in mind that Hasbro at any point can say "Thank You Goodnight" if they think they're being disrespected; keep that in mind if you want to get 10 of your friends in line to ask the same question over. Also remember those 3 dozen other people I previously mentioned.


Don't get me wrong I'd love to see someone go after those stuff shirt MIT grads and make them sweat but that won't do much of anything for anyone except make 3 dozen folks mad at you; have I mentioned Dallas allows concealed carry?

So rant and rave all you guys want here, because come time for Bot-Con none of ya are gonna say a peep.

FYI Hasbro-Canada is almost as in the dark to the workings of Hasbro USA as we are.

I dont even collect TF Prime, but ill stand up and ask the question just for you. (If some front row seat fan boy doesnt beat me to it)

The hell with the 3 dozen people, the other 1500 inquiring minds in the room want to know.

The people we should be complaining to are, quite frankly, WalMart, but I doubt we can muster enough numbers for them to notice.

Ultimately, the problem boils down to this: Hasbro makes what chain-store buyers will order. At this point I'm afraid that those buyers see Transformers as being intrinsically Bayverse shaped, and that if the toys don't sell that it's because children are tired of Transformers, not that they're tired of the most pervasive iteration of them that features designs that don't translate all that well into plastic (forcing the toy to either be overly complex or totally off-model), which should have been a primary design consideration for the film models. But I digress....

Mr_Wayne wrote:Will tf source be getting the shipment of the Fe voyagers or not.
There are still stores like toys on fire taking orders for a march shipment of Fe optimus Wtf.

From the TFsource facebook page:

Unfortunately we have some bad news, we didn't want to call it until Hasbro confirmed, but the rest of the Transformers Prime First Edition series figures will not hit the US. New Prime preorders will be up next week, if you already have placed an order you can opt to convert to the new product (RID) or cancel your order if you no longer want the RID piece. Once we have more news and the new preorders up next week we'll reach out directly to all customers that preordered.

metaphorge wrote:Eventually we'll just be able to buy the design files from Hasbro and have them printed at the corner plastic vendor, then take them home and screw them together ourselves if we're still so anachronistic as to want to play with a physical item....

Actually, I work in IT. We're not far away from 3D printers being affordable and available in the home. Someday we'll be able to design (or download) our own TF designs and print them out at home.

Then we'll just need that color 3D printer.

metaphorge wrote:The people we should be complaining to are, quite frankly, WalMart, but I doubt we can muster enough numbers for them to notice.

Ultimately, the problem boils down to this: Hasbro makes what chain-store buyers will order. At this point I'm afraid that those buyers see Transformers as being intrinsically Bayverse shaped, and that if the toys don't sell that it's because children are tired of Transformers, not that they're tired of the most pervasive iteration of them that features designs that don't translate all that well into plastic (forcing the toy to either be overly complex or totally off-model), which should have been a primary design consideration for the film models. But I digress....

Except the FE's were TRU exclusives not Walmart's and if a store that specializes in toys doesn't understand their products or their clientele we're really screwed :/ Not just now, but in the future too.

I can't think of a single way that this makes any sense. I really wanted these figures but hasbro is **** it up royally.

I sent an email, doubt it will do any good but atleast I put in my 2 cents

Agamemnon wrote:

metaphorge wrote:Eventually we'll just be able to buy the design files from Hasbro and have them printed at the corner plastic vendor, then take them home and screw them together ourselves if we're still so anachronistic as to want to play with a physical item....

Actually, I work in IT. We're not far away from 3D printers being affordable and available in the home. Someday we'll be able to design (or download) our own TF designs and print them out at home.

Then we'll just need that color 3D printer.

I like that idea xD

It'd be fun to have my thesis characters in toy form xD Though by affordable what exactly to you mean? a large rolling flat bed scanner thingy that can scan something like 42 inches wide and however long costs 10k <.< And 3D scanners sounds far more impressive.

wow... this actualy pisses me off. ive been hounding my tru every week hopeing for bulkhead, cliff and optimus, and now im never going to get those figures? i cant pay the ebay scalper prices. im hella cheesed off.

dont suppose any of our canadian brothers and sister would be willing to help out?

Is this just for BBTS or is it for all online sellers like ToyWiz(which my preorder is through)? Esther way I put my 2 cents in and sent a complaint.

Erailea wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:

metaphorge wrote:Eventually we'll just be able to buy the design files from Hasbro and have them printed at the corner plastic vendor, then take them home and screw them together ourselves if we're still so anachronistic as to want to play with a physical item....

Actually, I work in IT. We're not far away from 3D printers being affordable and available in the home. Someday we'll be able to design (or download) our own TF designs and print them out at home.

Then we'll just need that color 3D printer.

I like that idea xD

It'd be fun to have my thesis characters in toy form xD Though by affordable what exactly to you mean? a large rolling flat bed scanner thingy that can scan something like 42 inches wide and however long cost 10k <.< And 3D scanners sound far more impressive.

Well, considering that laser printers used to be really expensive and can now be found for less than a grand, and plasma TVs used to be like 10 grand and are now, what $300-$400? I don't know when they'll be affordable, but I'm pretty sure they will.

On topic again, I just told my wife I may be cured of my plastic crack habit. We'll see in a few months when the toys are actually on the shelves and the stages of grieving have passed...

STINGRAY749 wrote:Is this just for BBTS or is it for all online sellers like ToyWiz(which my preorder is through)? Esther way I put my 2 cents in and sent a complaint.

TFsource is saying the same thing as BBTS so I assume it probably goes for all of them.