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Transformers - Revenge of the Sequel

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Transformers - Revenge of the Sequel

Postby maxicane » Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:16 pm

WARNING!

SPOILER ALERT!


My sincere apologies for not putting that up to begin with, being new to here I assumed everyone knew all about it already.
The following does contain spoilers that even though witnesses with my own eyes in the presence of 100's of others, I still find hard to believe.

This is my first post on here ever, so you'll probably pay no attention to it.

I was at the Irish Premier of the new movie last night and there were about 500 other people there.
I'd say a good 450 left unhappy.

The beginning of the movie really sucks you in with action from the first frame and a host of more bots to enjoy. But after that, the whole thing gets weird.
Yes it's a Michael Bay film so things don't have to make sense. Yes it's a movie about alien transforming robots, so it'll never happen anyway, but the story line goes from science fiction to confusing and made up as they went along.

They made up a second energy source because the first one was destroyed in the first movie. Or was it? Apparently just a couple of slivers of the Allspark remain. Just enough to ressurect Megatron from his terribly guarded underwater prison and to bring to life a Deceptecon turned Autobot who's been on the planet for centuries.

An evil new transformer in the form of a hot college chick tries to get Sam, and when she fails, that's the last we see of her. But she's in the wrong movie anyway, she belongs in a Terminator movie.

So it turns out that the fallen is looking for the other energy source that is bigger and better than the Allspark. The only thing that can stop him is a Prime. Optimus Prime. But that won't trouble him much as Optimus is killed.
Shock, horror.

Sam has maps and wotnot imprinted on his brain that inevitably lead him to a tomb made up of the bodies of the other Primes - the ghosts of Autobot past if you will.

Inside the tomb is the new energy source, called the matrix. Original. This energy source can either blow up the sun or to bring Optimus back to life.

What follows is about 45 minutes of mindless CGI and pyrotechnics that give us the utterly pointless Devastator, complete with hanging scrotum. I kid you not.
It also gives us robots fighting robots that is so confusing and utterly boring after so much of it that I was actually excited to see Sam get blown up and die. Shock horror again.
He has a near death experience and is told that he has to fulfill his destiny by the ghosts of Autobot past. He comes to life and brings Optimus back who then kills the Fallen.
Then the end of the film comes far too quickly and was obviously just a means to segue to the eventual third movie.

This is 147 minutes of my life that I will never get back. It does have it's good moments and qualities, but overall it's a let down.
It's all over the place, story wise and I just felt that the film makers just ticked the sequel boxes to make money.

Sorry to let people down, if I have at all.

But I'll be genuinely surprised if anyone gives it a flawless glowing review.
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Re: Transformers - Revenge of the Sequel

Postby Rodimus Prime » Wed Jun 17, 2009 1:10 pm

Motto: "Individual freedom above all else."
Well, first, welcome to seibertron! :)

Thanks fr the review, but just for a tip, next time include a huge SPOILERS in the title, please. I don't care, but some other people would like to stay clear of all info and see the move fresh. Which is hard to do with all the spots and "exclusive" footage out there, but still.

Me, I am gonna see it even if the other 6 and a half billion people on this planet **** on it.
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Re: Transformers - Revenge of the Sequel

Postby wingdarkness » Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:06 pm

I don’t need to read the review to know that it will be $hit, just like part 1 was $hit…I know I’m not a regular, hell I haven’t even been here much since the first movie, but the internet is the only place I can turn to to vent my utter frustration with this franchise and it’s car engine of a director…So I’ll be around for a few…Not surprised AT ALL Rodiums (The real Flame-sticker leader^^)…Enjoy the hurt, man...
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Re: Transformers - Revenge of the Sequel

Postby Rodimus Prime » Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:39 pm

Motto: "Individual freedom above all else."
wingdarkness wrote: Rodiums (The real Flame-sticker leader^^)…Enjoy the hurt, man...


Oh and it will hurt so good... :twisted: someone get the jumper cables!!!

Oh...and it's RodiMUs. :)
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Re: Transformers - Revenge of the Sequel

Postby wingdarkness » Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:14 pm

^My badd, it was an honest typo, but again enjoy…I’ll probably watch it too at some point (if only to be able to accurately rip it into the shreds it will deserve)…Sucks to be my 5 yr old son though, I refuse to take him to see it because I don’t want him to accept this as what I loved as a child…He’ll be seeing “UP” this weekend…thanx Pixar for saving my boy, he went from pi$$ed to glad...
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Re: Transformers - Revenge of the Sequel

Postby syphonn » Wed Jun 17, 2009 4:51 pm

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Hanging scrotum eh, guess we know how they beat him :roll:
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Re: Transformers - Revenge of the Sequel

Postby Rodimus Prime » Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:36 am

Motto: "Individual freedom above all else."
wingdarkness wrote:^My badd, it was an honest typo, but again enjoy…


LOL, I know, just messin around.

I’ll probably watch it too at some point (if only to be able to accurately rip it into the shreds it will deserve)…Sucks to be my 5 yr old son though, I refuse to take him to see it because I don’t want him to accept this as what I loved as a child


That's undertandable. I am a geewunner myself, and do not approve of the story of the first one. This one doesn't seem better, but you gotta admit, the action kicks ass and the effects and CGI is great. Bottom line, our favorite good guys and bad guys are on the big screen!

…He’ll be seeing “UP” this weekend…thanx Pixar for saving my boy, he went from pi$$ed to glad...


I actually wanted to see that. WALL E was great! The theater was full of 3 and 4 year olds, but I don't care. I saw it anyway. Have fun with your boy, I'll be doing the same with RotF.
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Re: Transformers - Revenge of the Sequel

Postby maxicane » Thu Jun 18, 2009 4:41 am

Rodimus Prime wrote:Well, first, welcome to seibertron! :)

Thanks fr the review, but just for a tip, next time include a huge SPOILERS in the title, please. I don't care, but some other people would like to stay clear of all info and see the move fresh. Which is hard to do with all the spots and "exclusive" footage out there, but still.

Me, I am gonna see it even if the other 6 and a half billion people on this planet **** on it.


You're right and I spologise for not putting up a spoiler warning. It's there now and anyone I rubbed up the wrong way I apologise to also, that wasn't my intention.

A mixture of forgetfulness and thinking you all knew about it already meant it didn't go up for the original posting.

I loved the first one having grown up watching the cartoons and collecting as many toys as my parents could afford. This movie did expand on the involvement of the robots themselves and their characters, but the story was mashed together and very confusing.
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Re: Transformers - Revenge of the Sequel

Postby Rodimus Prime » Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:13 am

Motto: "Individual freedom above all else."
maxicane wrote: This movie did expand on the involvement of the robots themselves and their characters, but the story was mashed together and very confusing.


Tome it wasn't confusing, it was just dumb. Why did they have to cobble together this subpar story, when they could have picked a good story from the comics to elaborate on? Simon Furman wrote some damn good stuff even back with G1. I know the standard answer "because we made it for the general audience" is what Bay says, but it's BS. If he put the first 4 issues of the comics into the script, it would have kicked ass. And with Shockwave's arrival, it would have been the perfect sequel bait.
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Re: Transformers - Revenge of the Sequel

Postby syphonn » Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:32 pm

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From: http://www.filmjournal.com/filmjournal/content_display/news-and-features/features/movies/e3iecfa450e38f03b77320a92c99890ed5a

We broke the story for Revenge of the Fallen in the two weeks leading up to the strike," Kurtzman remembers. "It was kind of like 'Crash, bang, boom—here's the outline for the movie!' Then, during the strike, Michael worked on the action sequences because we couldn't generate pages. The minute the strike ended, the three of us sat in a room for three months and wrote the script. The last day of those three months was the first day of shooting. So it was kind of a marathon."We broke the story for Revenge of the Fallen in the two weeks leading up to the strike," Kurtzman remembers. "It was kind of like 'Crash, bang, boom—here's the outline for the movie!' Then, during the strike, Michael worked on the action sequences because we couldn't generate pages. The minute the strike ended, the three of us sat in a room for three months and wrote the script. The last day of those three months was the first day of shooting. So it was kind of a marathon."


That might have something to do with it
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Re: Transformers - Revenge of the Sequel

Postby Robinson » Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:33 pm

SOUNDS **** AWESOME!!!!


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