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Is the AllSpark evil or something?

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Is the AllSpark evil or something?

Postby blobatron » Wed Jun 24, 2009 6:40 am

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Every time we've seen the AllSpark of the movies bring machines to life, they have always turned out evil. I know in the cartoons they have the Land Mine units that aren't, but in the movie, not one Autobot is produced. Is it the AllSpark that produces evil robots from our machines, or are they baddies because the robots were originally tools to serve humans, and that we, and what we make, are inherently bad? Well, the Dyson vacuum, I suppose, is evil, as I believe nothing that "sucks" should cost $400.

Not really looking for a real explanation, but would I would like to know what all of you think of it. Could it be the one little bit of real, deep symbolism that was put into the movie (I loved both movies, by the way)?
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Re: Is the AllSpark evil or something?

Postby Flare » Wed Jun 24, 2009 8:29 am

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It really seems that way. The All Spark really does produce some bad transformers. I have been wondering that since the first movie. I saw it at midnight on Wednesday morning 06/24/09 at 12:01 AM here in my town. Loved how long the movie was. We got out a little after 3 AM. It was so jammed packed with Decepticons to my great enjoyment!! And WOW a Gestalt too?! This movie was completely awesome! I know I will have to dig up some more money to go see it again at the IMAX Theater this week sometime. I heard it will be playing there. :CON:
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Re: Is the AllSpark evil or something?

Postby Bloodlust » Wed Jun 24, 2009 8:58 am

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blobatron wrote:Every time we've seen the AllSpark of the movies bring machines to life, they have always turned out evil. I know in the cartoons they have the Land Mine units that aren't, but in the movie, not one Autobot is produced. Is it the AllSpark that produces evil robots from our machines, or are they baddies because the robots were originally tools to serve humans, and that we, and what we make, are inherently bad? Well, the Dyson vacuum, I suppose, is evil, as I believe nothing that "sucks" should cost $400.

Not really looking for a real explanation, but would I would like to know what all of you think of it. Could it be the one little bit of real, deep symbolism that was put into the movie (I loved both movies, by the way)?


From what i know is that the machines brought to life are defending the All Spark (or what's left of it) from harm
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Re: Is the AllSpark evil or something?

Postby Seraphium Prime » Wed Jun 24, 2009 10:22 am

This is something I've always wondered myself...it does seem that way doesn't it? I like to think of what the All Spark creates as "baby Transformers." Think about how when a baby is born, it doesn't know anything, it doesnt understand the world around it, and it cries...A LOT. So maybe the robots that the All Spark creates just don't understand the world around them, and they just want to see what happens when they point and shoot? Who knows....
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Re: Is the AllSpark evil or something?

Postby Rodimus Prime » Wed Jun 24, 2009 10:43 am

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Recently, there was a lengthy discussion of this in this thread:

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