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Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Ravage revealed from BotCon 2016 set

Postby Desslok2201 » Thu Oct 15, 2015 7:55 pm

RAcast wrote:Nosecone? Is that you? I LOVE IT. :michaelbay:

I was thinking along the same lines, but my first thought was Drillhorn
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Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Ravage revealed from BotCon 2016 set

Postby william-james88 » Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:06 pm

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Mkall wrote:On second thought, I'm quite disappointed that they chose to go with the colourings of a 30-second scene over that of the original toy.


I went the reverse route. At first I was thinking, but this isnt Ramhorn, and then I totally gushed over the fact that we now have both an original toy AND a toy that homages the onscreen characters. While I am not fond of the two previous releases, this is really making me reconsider a few things. Still not sure if its worth the general price tag but consider me greatly intrigued.

Also, it helps that this is a mold I still havent seen yet so there is 0 mold fatigue. I am super curious about the combined head now and the torso.

PS: Also, I really disliked the original ramhorn toy as a kid.
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Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Ravage revealed from BotCon 2016 set

Postby Hellscream9999 » Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:19 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
Mkall wrote:On second thought, I'm quite disappointed that they chose to go with the colourings of a 30-second scene over that of the original toy.


I went the reverse route. At first I was thinking, but this isnt Ramhorn, and then I totally gushed over the fact that we now have both an original toy AND a toy that homages the onscreen characters. While I am not fond of the two previous releases, this is really making me reconsider a few things. Still not sure if its worth the general price tag but consider me greatly intrigued.

Also, it helps that this is a mold I still havent seen yet so there is 0 mold fatigue. I am super curious about the combined head now and the torso.

PS: Also, I really disliked the original ramhorn toy as a kid.


Yeah, it left me, and, probably many a kid, scarred for life :BANG_HEAD:
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Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Ravage revealed from BotCon 2016 set

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:37 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:If I remember correctly, it was stated somewhere that they council was supposed to modeled after the tripedacus figures, but they ran short on time and left them grey and indistinct; I agree that this combiner is going to look rather bland/interesting it 3/5 of it is going to be black and red;

Come to think on it - this will be the most cohesive combiner to date as far as propotions and color scheme go (so far) other than, maybe pirahnacon :-?

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Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Ravage revealed from BotCon 2016 set

Postby Hellscream9999 » Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:40 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:If I remember correctly, it was stated somewhere that they council was supposed to modeled after the tripedacus figures, but they ran short on time and left them grey and indistinct; I agree that this combiner is going to look rather bland/interesting it 3/5 of it is going to be black and red;

Come to think on it - this will be the most cohesive combiner to date as far as propotions and color scheme go (so far) other than, maybe pirahnacon :-?

What of the great Victorion? :BOT:


Well, she hasn't been released, but yeah, I guess she would qualify too.
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Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Ravage revealed from BotCon 2016 set

Postby SW's SilverHammer » Thu Oct 15, 2015 9:29 pm

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Desslok2201 wrote:
RAcast wrote:Nosecone? Is that you? I LOVE IT. :michaelbay:

I was thinking along the same lines, but my first thought was Drillhorn

Oh ****, this could've legitimately worked as drillhorn. .
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Postby Seibertron » Thu Oct 15, 2015 9:42 pm

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Forget Nosecone. I'm excited for Drillhorn. I think we've got all the molds we need for a new Liokaiser. Unfortunately, he'll be a 5 figure guys plus a Legends figure instead of a proper 6 figure Combiner, but I'm game if there are no official plans to do 6 deluxes as a Combiner in the future.
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Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Ravage revealed from BotCon 2016 set

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Thu Oct 15, 2015 9:59 pm

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Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Ravage revealed from BotCon 2016 set

Postby Flashwave » Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:08 pm

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This is not a Nosecone retool (yet). Instead, the Club split the cost of the new weapon tooling across two Budgets. Ladies and Gentlemen, the 7th TFSS4.0 figure, known to be a Deluxe, is the Wrecker Twin Twist.

Or, not.

Regardless, not feeling the colors, but I like the idea. Maybe in an actual figure it'll look better. Still down for more Decepticon Combiner Fodder.
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Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Ravage revealed from BotCon 2016 set

Postby SW's SilverHammer » Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:14 pm

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Flashwave wrote:Watch this:

This is not a Nosecone retool (yet). Instead, the Club split the cost of the new weapon tooling across two Budgets. Ladies and Gentlemen, the 7th TFSS4.0 figure, known to be a Deluxe, is the Wrecker Twin Twist.

Or, not.

Regardless, not feeling the colors, but I like the idea. Maybe in an actual figure it'll look better. Still down for more Decepticon Combiner Fodder.


Doesn't Twin Twist need two drills.
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Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Ravage revealed from BotCon 2016 set

Postby Hellscream9999 » Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:52 pm

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SW's SilverHammer wrote:
Flashwave wrote:Watch this:

This is not a Nosecone retool (yet). Instead, the Club split the cost of the new weapon tooling across two Budgets. Ladies and Gentlemen, the 7th TFSS4.0 figure, known to be a Deluxe, is the Wrecker Twin Twist.

Or, not.

Regardless, not feeling the colors, but I like the idea. Maybe in an actual figure it'll look better. Still down for more Decepticon Combiner Fodder.


Doesn't Twin Twist need two drills.


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Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Ravage revealed from BotCon 2016 set

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:32 pm

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SW's SilverHammer wrote:Here's a legit question, were the tripredicus council actually red in the show or was that just the lighting/budget modeling? Because i think there was a shot or two when cicadacon i think was actually mostly grey. Also there was a bunch of red mood lighting.
It's a little more complicated than that.

The three enter the room colored dark grey, but then appear red after turning on some red lights on the table. However, it's less as though the lights on the table are shining on the three to make them appear red, and more as though their bodies themselves change from dark grey to glowing red upon their touching the red table lights to turn them on, as we see the white overhead light swing and sway to shine directly on their bodies (particularly Ram Horn and Sea Clamp) without changing the red color. Their robes, however, are consistently silver regardless of any lighting.

In other words, the three are Color Changers. :P

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Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Ravage revealed from BotCon 2016 set

Postby Starsaber468 » Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:34 pm

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SW's SilverHammer wrote:Aw man I can't wait for CW nosecone to come out. It's a preview for nosecone right?


I surely hope so, I really like the way this looks, I just wish the drill was a bit bigger

What want to see is a nosecone remolded from air raid sounds dumb until u flip air raid (in alt mode) uside down and flip the wings down
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Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Ravage revealed from BotCon 2016 set

Postby SW's SilverHammer » Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:38 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Here's a legit question, were the tripredicus council actually red in the show or was that just the lighting/budget modeling? Because i think there was a shot or two when cicadacon i think was actually mostly grey. Also there was a bunch of red mood lighting.
It's a little more complicated than that.

The three enter the room colored dark grey, but then appear red after turning on some red lights on the table. However, it's less as though the lights on the table are shining on the three to make them appear red, and more as though their bodies themselves change from dark grey to glowing red upon their touching the red table lights to turn them on, as we see the white overhead light swing and sway to shine directly on their bodies (particularly Ram Horn and Sea Clamp) without changing the red color. Their robes, however, are consistently silver regardless of any lighting.

In other words, the three are Color Changers. :P



So no one's right, and no ones wrong really. I always figured personally when I watched the show as a kid that they were like really high contrast/reflective colours like silver, or white for them to reflect the red mood lighting. I never thought they were actually red if that makes sense. Also because the fact like they turned red after they turned on their lights, it always made me think because of the low budget nature of beast wars, their character models changed to red to make it look like there was more red mood lighting.
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Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Ravage revealed from BotCon 2016 set

Postby Starsaber468 » Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:41 pm

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Seibertron wrote:Forget Nosecone. I'm excited for Drillhorn. I think we've got all the molds we need for a new Liokaiser. Unfortunately, he'll be a 5 figure guys plus a Legends figure instead of a proper 6 figure Combiner, but I'm game if there are no official plans to do 6 deluxes as a Combiner in the future.

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Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Ravage revealed from BotCon 2016 set

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:45 pm

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Starsaber468 wrote:but first all most necessary thing ever Killbision is going to need to have articulated fingers so that he he can do what he did on the show (if you watch cybercast you will get this)
Or, you know, just check the Wiki:

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It's, like, the only screencap pic from the show up on his page. >:oP
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Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Ravage revealed from BotCon 2016 set

Postby Starsaber468 » Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:50 pm

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I would hope unite warriors computron would be like this
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Postby Starsaber468 » Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:54 pm

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Starsaber468 wrote:but first all most necessary thing ever Killbision is going to need to have articulated fingers so that he he can do what he did on the show (if you watch cybercast you will get this)
Or, you know, just check the Wiki:

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It's, like, the only screencap pic from the show up on his page. >:oP

Thx Sabrblade thats the picture thats why its necessary for him to have articulated fingers XD
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Postby SW's SilverHammer » Fri Oct 16, 2015 12:03 am

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Starsaber468 wrote:I would hope unite warriors computron would be like this
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Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Ravage revealed from BotCon 2016 set

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Oct 16, 2015 12:13 am

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So now for a potential Breastforce combiner we have the following:

Leozack - Silverbolt mold (even though Air Raid would be a better fit)
Killbison - Brawl mold
Drillhorn - Brawl mold w/ drill attachment
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Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Ravage revealed from BotCon 2016 set

Postby SW's SilverHammer » Fri Oct 16, 2015 12:15 am

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Sabrblade wrote:So now for a potential Breastforce combiner we have the following:

Leozack - Silverbolt mold (even though Air Raid would be a better fit)
Killbison - Brawl mold
Drillhorn - Brawl mold w/ drill attachment
Jallguar - Swindle retool of Rook
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Postby Sabrblade » Fri Oct 16, 2015 12:20 am

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SW's SilverHammer wrote:Lyzack - Airraid
Lyzack wasn't depicted as having wings (or being a Breastforce member) in her original Victory manga appearance:

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Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Ravage revealed from BotCon 2016 set

Postby SW's SilverHammer » Fri Oct 16, 2015 12:27 am

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Doesn't matter, if were going on the idea we have to use cw figure; airraids a good mold, the wings can fold back, and lyzack needs a toy that isn't botcon leozack. Also if leozacks CW silverbolt he wouldnt have his wings correctly oriented either
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Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Ravage revealed from BotCon 2016 set

Postby Hellscream9999 » Fri Oct 16, 2015 12:46 am

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Starsaber468 wrote:I would hope unite warriors computron would be like this
Scattorshot: Morgan remolding than the hasbro verison or a new mold Lightspeed: Remold of dead end (new mold probably not)
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Really? With an equivalent amount of re-shelling to streetwise, I could see it, and actually be satisfied with it. I mean, it looks like it would be a more satisfying 'drill machine' than ramhorn will be >:oP
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Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Ravage revealed from BotCon 2016 set

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Oct 16, 2015 12:48 am

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SW's SilverHammer wrote:Doesn't matter, if were going on the idea we have to use cw figure; airraids a good mold, the wings can fold back, and lyzack needs a toy that isn't botcon leozack. Also if leozacks CW silverbolt he wouldnt have his wings correctly oriented either
Well, why would Lyzack need to be included, though? The combiner's already more than complete without her.
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Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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