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Stryker P28 wrote:As someone who has owned both Versions of TFP Bee, I can say that FE Bee is superior as it lacks any spring loaded gimmicks and has less obtrusive 5mm ports
Emerje wrote:Burn wrote:william-james88 wrote:What I find crazy in all this is that SOMEONE HAS THE DAMN BOX AND DIDNT TAKE PICS OF WHATS INSIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PLOT TWIST: There's nothing inside because it's something someone made up for their Graphics Designer course.
I'm thinking it's just a mock up or package sample and there probably isn't anything in the box. That would explain some of the quirks like saying "figure" but having two names or mentioning a sticker sheet when Hasbro swore those off with PotP. It's all very odd.
Well, there's not a huge rush to move on these, they have plenty of anniversaries to celebrate thanks to have sluggish the launch was. The series started with books in 2010, the cartoon and FE toys in 2011, and the RID toy line in 2012. I think they'll be angling towards 2020/2021 both as the anniversary window.
Emerje
Indeed there was. The FE toys initially only saw release in Canada, then they didn't show up at US TRUs until very late, but only the Wave 1 Deluxes. It wasn't until the first GDO Generations toys showed up at TRU for the 2012 holiday season that the entire FE line finally got a second run, but for that second run Voyager Optimus had missing paint apps on his vehicle mode.chuckdawg1999 wrote:Wasn't there an issue with the FE involving distribution? I remember that Canada got the figures first and in some cases only. It's been 10 years so the memory is fuzzy.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:(...) but for that second run Voyager Optimus had missing paint apps on his vehicle mode.
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Sabrblade wrote:(...) but for that second run Voyager Optimus had missing paint apps on his vehicle mode.
Rather, the wrong paint mask was used: the re-release uses the one for the clear Japanese exclusive released a few months earlier which omitted some areas.
War Breakdown may still be possible, because the reason why the mold wasn't released, as I've read, was while it was started and then seemingly abandoned, TakaraTomy finished it without considering Hasbro's rigid price points (compared to TakaraTomy's). In other words, it fell between two Size Classes: too large for Deluxe, not large enough for Voyager.
william-james88 wrote:Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Sabrblade wrote:(...) but for that second run Voyager Optimus had missing paint apps on his vehicle mode.
Rather, the wrong paint mask was used: the re-release uses the one for the clear Japanese exclusive released a few months earlier which omitted some areas.
War Breakdown may still be possible, because the reason why the mold wasn't released, as I've read, was while it was started and then seemingly abandoned, TakaraTomy finished it without considering Hasbro's rigid price points (compared to TakaraTomy's). In other words, it fell between two Size Classes: too large for Deluxe, not large enough for Voyager.
Is there any confirmation of that?
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:william-james88 wrote:Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Sabrblade wrote:(...) but for that second run Voyager Optimus had missing paint apps on his vehicle mode.
Rather, the wrong paint mask was used: the re-release uses the one for the clear Japanese exclusive released a few months earlier which omitted some areas.
War Breakdown may still be possible, because the reason why the mold wasn't released, as I've read, was while it was started and then seemingly abandoned, TakaraTomy finished it without considering Hasbro's rigid price points (compared to TakaraTomy's). In other words, it fell between two Size Classes: too large for Deluxe, not large enough for Voyager.
Is there any confirmation of that?
SDCC 2012. I may be off with the whole "between two Classes" stuff, but the mold as finished by TakaraTomy with the ports and the Arms Micron didn't align properly with Hasbro's pricing it seems:
SDCC 2012 - Hasbro Has No Plans for Transformers Prime Voyager Breakdown, Figure Is In 'No Man's Land' Cost Wise courtesy of tformers.com
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:War Breakdown does have the right dimensional size for what the TF: Prime RID Voyagers were like at the time (in fact, the FOC Voyager Soundwave released contemporaneously was even much bigger and chunkier than War Breakdown), but having experienced the mold via the BotCon 2015 Megatron retool, War Breakdown does feel more intricate a figure to transform than your average TF: Prime RID Voyager. So I'd wager it was less of an actual size issue and more of a parts count issue.
In other words, he is technically sized right for what the Voyager class toys were like at the time, but his insides had much more going on than the other, less-intricate Hasbro-budgeted Voyagers.
See bolded text.Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Sabrblade wrote:War Breakdown does have the right dimensional size for what the TF: Prime RID Voyagers were like at the time (in fact, the FOC Voyager Soundwave released contemporaneously was even much bigger and chunkier than War Breakdown), but having experienced the mold via the BotCon 2015 Megatron retool, War Breakdown does feel more intricate a figure to transform than your average TF: Prime RID Voyager. So I'd wager it was less of an actual size issue and more of a parts count issue.
In other words, he is technically sized right for what the Voyager class toys were like at the time, but his insides had much more going on than the other, less-intricate Hasbro-budgeted Voyagers.
Compared to the RiD or FE ones? I will agree he feels more... delicate than the rest, from my experiences with Swerve.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:See bolded text.Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Sabrblade wrote:War Breakdown does have the right dimensional size for what the TF: Prime RID Voyagers were like at the time (in fact, the FOC Voyager Soundwave released contemporaneously was even much bigger and chunkier than War Breakdown), but having experienced the mold via the BotCon 2015 Megatron retool, War Breakdown does feel more intricate a figure to transform than your average TF: Prime RID Voyager. So I'd wager it was less of an actual size issue and more of a parts count issue.
In other words, he is technically sized right for what the Voyager class toys were like at the time, but his insides had much more going on than the other, less-intricate Hasbro-budgeted Voyagers.
Compared to the RiD or FE ones? I will agree he feels more... delicate than the rest, from my experiences with Swerve.
Sabrblade wrote:See bolded text.Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Sabrblade wrote:War Breakdown does have the right dimensional size for what the TF: Prime RID Voyagers were like at the time (in fact, the FOC Voyager Soundwave released contemporaneously was even much bigger and chunkier than War Breakdown), but having experienced the mold via the BotCon 2015 Megatron retool, War Breakdown does feel more intricate a figure to transform than your average TF: Prime RID Voyager. So I'd wager it was less of an actual size issue and more of a parts count issue.
In other words, he is technically sized right for what the Voyager class toys were like at the time, but his insides had much more going on than the other, less-intricate Hasbro-budgeted Voyagers.
Compared to the RiD or FE ones? I will agree he feels more... delicate than the rest, from my experiences with Swerve.
The FEs were from a different line from the previous year, and they were only a mini-line that was a preview for the main line to come the following line. And, originally, they were going to be Generations releases before deciding to give them their own release as a separate line.william-james88 wrote:Even then the FE voyagers were released at the Voyager price point and he is as intricate as those. So we had toys at the same price being released around the same time. I just dont see what exactly puts him in no man's land.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Ironhide516 wrote:Prime is already at its 10 year anniversary? Man, where did the time go?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Va'al wrote:I keep track of everyone. Backwards.
There are atandarfs to maintain.
LOST Cybertronian wrote:Hey, If Mindmaster survived then you should do just fine.
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