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News Credits: 56 · by **Nathaniel Prime** » Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:41 am

Link to vote? Or do I just type the name here?

I'll vote for #Runamuck

News Credits: 4503 · by **william-james88** » Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:46 am

Nathaniel Prime wrote:Link to vote? Or do I just type the name here?

I'll vote for #Runamuck

click on the picture

News Credits: 12 · by **Sentinel_Primal** » Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:50 am

Wait... "Stowaway aboard the Ark"? Does that mean we're actually moving away from Cybertronian modes? Or is it just a bit of flavor text?

Edit: Annnnnd I should have actually paid attention instead of skimming... Yep, just flavor text :oops:

News Credits: 8 · by **Mr.MicroMaster** » Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:31 am

I am definitely going to vote for either Runamok or Needlenose. Mainly because those two don't have a main line release.

News Credits: 25 · by **Ironhidensh** » Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:39 am

Shrapnel or Gnaw will win, gatunteed. Why? Because Hasbro can just put out reprints.

News Credits: 340 · by **Stargrave** » Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:46 am

I guess amok would be the proper spelling I mean I think of the classic Trek episode Amok Time I always thought it was spelled that way but never really cared I guess. I love that Shrapnel's name is back that brings me much joy :-D

Can I just have them all in my shopping cart right now? Just one each I'm not trying to be greedy just one each come on.

Whether we just got them recently or not I can't wait to see what they do with them. I mean one Insecticon? What will they all look like with the Siege engineering?! What does that indicate for the future of the line? What do Sharkticons mean for the future of the line??

So exciting!

News Credits: 340 · by **Stargrave** » Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:54 am

Ironhidensh wrote:Shrapnel or Gnaw will win, gatunteed. Why? Because Hasbro can just put out reprints.

Insecticons and Sharkticons are like the Stormtroopers of the TF lines. There aren't too many army builders for Autobots.

News Credits: 3 · by **Wireless_Phantom** » Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:58 am

Damnit Hasbro stop making us vote and just make all of them

News Credits: 12 · by **Sentinel_Primal** » Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:12 am

Well, after some thought, I chose to vote Needlenose. Mostly because if they see later G1 characters start winning (like Primal from the POTP poll), then they may start moving past the first couple of years with the occassional bone tossed to the other years. It's a long shot, but hey, better than nothing

Or I have gone insane? Probably gone insane :lol:

News Credits: 11 · by **Optimutt** » Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:16 am

I wound up voting Needlenose because I have the Collector's Club versions of Runamok (my other 1st choice), and they are amazing.

Still, I don't know if we REALLY need another jet. Dezarus would be a much better choice for this. But if they're doing Deluxes, Needlenose does have the charisma of character to please.

News Credits: 42 · by **TF-fan kev777** » Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:28 am

Ironhidensh wrote:Shrapnel or Gnaw will win, gatunteed. Why? Because Hasbro can just put out reprints.

Except, hasn't every fan vote winner gotten a new design or at least new tooling? Why would they change that now?

News Credits: 3 · by **TFmonkeybiz** » Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:47 am

TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:Shrapnel or Gnaw will win, gatunteed. Why? Because Hasbro can just put out reprints.

Except, hasn't every fan vote winner gotten a new design or at least new tooling? Why would they change that now?

On the subject of repaints and new designs. Gnaw's kind of the odd one out here in terms of repaint potential. Runamuck could be redone as Runabout, Shrapnel could be made into Chopshop and maybeee Zap Trap if they're feeling really low on ideas and Needlenose would probably generic enough to make into any number of jet Decepticons. The only other characters the Gnaw mould could work as would be as a generic Shrakticon drone or as a new character based on the Scraplets from Prime and Cyberverse.

News Credits: 4503 · by **william-james88** » Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:49 am

00Stargrave00 wrote:I mean one Insecticon? What will they all look like with the Siege engineering?! What does that indicate for the future of the line?

This is an interesting comment. I felt engineering beefed up a notch with Titans return, especially with the added possibilities of not having to account for hiding a head. But Siege seems to simply be hanging off the coat tails of these engineering advances. The only toy which actually wowed me so far engineering wise was voyager Optimus Prime, the rest doesnt seem so much better than what we got before in the Generations line. All to say I feel any better engineering for deluxes insecticons would be due to scale, not really the line it falls in. I still feel all legends insecticons are good engineering wise.
Do you feel Siege is better in terms of transformations than previous generations lines?

News Credits: 340 · by **Stargrave** » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:39 pm

Oooo that’s tough...that’s tough. :-?

You know that’s so loaded for me I mean every line there’s some new twist or turn, literally or thematically, that I am romantic for...

Siege I really really like. I’m finding better QC with tighter joints for the most part. I love the interplay of the Weaponizers and I love the efforts for uniqueness in scale and there’s fewer gaps and voids than the previous lines they just feel, hmm, sturdier?

And the battle damage and the detailing I feel like I’m getting some aspects of 3rd party and MP releases I’ve always admired.

Sorry to ramble I love questions like that :lol:

News Credits: 10 · by **sol magnus** » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:55 pm

Went Runamok, because Runabout would then be a given. Cybertronian Battlechargers FTW.

News Credits: 340 · by **Stargrave** » Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:14 pm

sol magnus wrote:Went Runamok, because Runabout would then be a given. Cybertronian Battlechargers FTW.

So metal it’s die-cast dude.

News Credits: 131 · by **no-one** » Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:38 pm

william-james88 wrote:Do you feel Siege is better in terms of transformations than previous generations lines?

Yes, but in a weird hard to put a finger on it kinda way. Maybe this perception is from a line not focused on gimmicks as part of the transformation. After CW and TR shoe-horning the line gimmick into each figure to the point it spilled over onto PotP, it's a breath of fresh air to have just good solid figures that just transform from a thing to a robot with normal heads and normal weapons. I do feel like Siege learned a lot of tricks and lessons from the PW3 figures though.

I feel like comparing Siege to T30 and back is going to get a little tricky as engineering has changed so much since. The Siege figures have become my default representations of characters on my shelves. Now I have a mix from the very first Gen lines up until Siege and just at a glance you can see just how much things has changed. It's fairly interesting and kind of hard to go back to the older figures.

Ultimately, I got into Transformers for robots that turn into things in interesting and fun ways and look good posed on a shelf and Siege has delivered on that in spades.

News Credits: 12 · by **Sentinel_Primal** » Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:13 pm

In terms of transformations, I do somewhat prefer TR's engineering and designs, but I prefer Siege's implementation of an almost universally accepted gimmick as well as implementing better articulation. If we could get a mix of aesthetics, gimmicks, and articulation, then that would result in the best line IMO

News Credits: 4503 · by **william-james88** » Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:17 pm

Sentinel_Primal wrote:In terms of transformations, I do somewhat prefer TR's engineering and designs, but I prefer Siege's implementation of an almost universally accepted gimmick as well as implementing better articulation. If we could get a mix of aesthetics, gimmicks, and articulation, then that would result in the best line IMO

I dont really find Siege's gimmick all that hard to get behind, its basically the same one the enregon scouts had. 5 mm weapons and ports. The articulation is a big improvement though, no doubt.

News Credits: 55 · by **o.supreme** » Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:57 pm

carytheone wrote:At first I was like - why Gnaw and Shrapnel again? Then after reading the thread I was reminded that Siege doesn't have legend class.

Actually I was thinking, since this will be for the 2020 line (follow up to Siege), this was a hint that the Legends Size Class may be returning for the next year.

News Credits: 131 · by **no-one** » Thu Jun 13, 2019 3:02 pm

o.supreme wrote:
carytheone wrote:At first I was like - why Gnaw and Shrapnel again? Then after reading the thread I was reminded that Siege doesn't have legend class.
Actually I was thinking, since this will be for the 2020 line (follow up to Siege), this was a hint that the Legends Size Class may be returning for the next year.

Ah good call. I've been suspect that legends will return for the next leg. I mean how else are they going sell Bumblebees?

If that's the case then I don't need any more sharkticons or bugs.

News Credits: 55 · by **o.supreme** » Thu Jun 13, 2019 3:05 pm

Emerje wrote:They were released in the Adventures line, but they were at Hasbro's Legends scale since they were CW Blackjack repaints/retools. Plus one was a mail away exclusive that you had to buy a book to order making it extra difficult to get. Hasbro and Takara Tomy both should consider these two and Needlenose as priorities.

Emerje

My apologies, it was late, and my terminology was off, but the point still stands. I have the :TAKARATOMY:

TAV Runabout, and the special 2 pack Runamuck/Dogfight :TAKARATOMY:

exclusive (got it without the book).

Basically as some have surmised. Since Schrapnel and Gnaw were available in most markets in the past 2 lines...

Runamuck (the most recent) being exclusive to :TAKARATOMY:

and Needlenose (the most recent being a TFCC exclusive) are the likely front runners. Hopefully whichever wins gets an all new toy, and not just the one most recently used.

News Credits: 18 · by **blackeyedprime** » Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:10 pm

The siege car designs have been lacking for me, do I don't really want to own non cybertronian/non earth mode battle chargers just to have the characters. Gnaw could just be a repaint/battledamage version of the cyber verse figure (so it doesn't need to be reused for any thing else.