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Dirty laundry That Sat In the rain and then in some dark corner some where for several days after the family pet used it to relieve themself over and over again upon.

GetRightRobot wrote:

Bowspearer wrote:

GetRightRobot wrote:Ok Gandi. How fast do you drive (I assume you drive)? 5 over the speed limit, that's the same as raping babies. Oh yes it is, if you go 5mph over the posted legal speed limit, you rape babies.

Strawman argument much? For the record, I always drive just under the speed limit. However if I sped and it caused an accident where someone, say a baby, died an horrific death in a car accident, then I would be guilty of murdering a baby. In that example, it would be a reasonable comparison. In other cases though, you should do yourself a favour and go grab a dictionary and look up the words "scale" and "spectrum", because your failure to comprehend the difference between the two has amounted to an epic fail.

GetRightRobot wrote:Making toys that capitalize on someone's else IP is not like stealing from an old lady. Unless and old lady has some non-material, thoughts or ideas someone could steal from her.

Of course it is- theft is theft. Whether you are talking about ideas or material goods, you are stealing from others for personal gain. It really is that black and white.

GetRightRobot wrote:You are EXTREMELY dramatic, and exaggerated.

Said the blind man.

GetRightRobot wrote:I'm not arguing that KO boxed g1's sucks, but how does that take money from Hasbro's pockets? Anything on the secondary market does nothing to effect Hasbro's bottom line. Why? 'Cause Hasbro doesn't dabble in Ebay.

Really so licensing revenue doesn't exist? Wow, just wow.

GetRightRobot wrote:I'm not justifying that 3rd parties make what they make only because Transformers sell, but Jesus man, calm down. Are you a collector or a stock holder?

Really, so you didn't just try and claim that theft wasn't really theft or that licensing revenue didn't exist? Revisionism much? As for your question- I'm a collector that can spot the slippery slope that gave us KO Toys a mile off and hates what it's done to the vintage collecting community in terms of scams.

DISCHARGE wrote:I don't see a problem with accessories, it's the figures that have increased the drama.

Which is an oxymoron when you think about the slippery slope of all this. It starts out with accessories where people "fill a gap in the market". Then they wind up being sold without there being any issues from Hasbro, so then someone decides to do figures that are loosely based on TF designs. They get through without a hitch, so then someone decides to do "Masterpiece" versions of toys, like Arcee or the Minicars. Then that gets through ok, so someone decides to take it to the next step which is the extreme and you wind up with KO Toys. Now that might seem wonderful, but those us on the receiving end of a scammer in some of these cases know just how how "scepial" that experience is.

DISCHARGE wrote:Hasbro would be better off to cut a deal with 3rd party toys like Takara does w\ Wonderfests and offer a one day license at Botcon. This would place certain safety practices in hand for things people don't even think about, like how do we know lead based paint isn't used on some of these toys?
There is an accountability that Hasbro feels they need to look at even though the product isn't theirs' that could still hurt their image.

This would be the ideal way to go and hopefully they do look at it. I completely agree about the QC issues as well, but ultimately it's entirely their call. Yes we may not like it, but if they choose not to meet 3rd parties in the middle and to take a hard-line approach, then that is entirely their right as the IP owners.

Ok man, you're a perfect law abiding, sin free, moral sound, superior ass. I'm sure your moral perfection makes you a lot of money/friends/general success, because wow you seem like a REALLY fun guy. I've been patient and tried to lighten the mood. You obviously have no sense of scale. As there are levels of crime there must be levels of theft. Manslaughter-Murder in the 1st. NO ONE IS ARGUING THAT IP THEFT IS THEFT. You accuse people of blindness when you yourself can't see the underlying issue.

How about this: I'll put my Hercules next to ROTF Devastator and you tell me which one is superior.

What's Hasbro going to do to a company that operates in Singapore or Taiwan or Sweden. B***H all you want, it's going to continue to happen until the market dissipates. Besides, according to you, your not even supporting Hasbro. You collect collectables, not toys in current markets. Discussing this with you is going to lead to problems. You are dull, close minded, and dramatic like a small child. You attitude towards fellow fans is disgusting and I can just bet you're REEAALLL popular with the ladies.

You're as much fun as a bag of dirty laundry.

TransformersEmporium wrote:
I completely agree with you.. But the good news is, is that hasbro can only do so much.
Since this thread started, Ive purchased 3 more 3rd party toys! And Hasbro, none for you!!!

TransformersEmporium wrote:
Dirty laundry That Sat In the rain and then in some dark corner some where for several days after the family pet used it to relieve themself over and over again upon.

Bowspearer wrote:

TransformersEmporium wrote:
I completely agree with you.. But the good news is, is that hasbro can only do so much.
Since this thread started, Ive purchased 3 more 3rd party toys! And Hasbro, none for you!!!

I actually wondered why you were defending KO Toys and 3rd party toys so much- then I checked your online store (non-eBay) and discovered that KO Toys and 3rd party toys are your bread and butter (as of typing this post). Therefore it is entirely reasonable to say that your interest in 3rd Party Toys and KOs remaining untouched are entirely self-serving.

GetRightRobot wrote:Ok man, you're a perfect law abiding, sin free, moral sound, superior ass. I'm sure your moral perfection makes you a lot of money/friends/general success, because wow you seem like a REALLY fun guy. I've been patient and tried to lighten the mood. You obviously have no sense of scale. As there are levels of crime there must be levels of theft. Manslaughter-Murder in the 1st. NO ONE IS ARGUING THAT IP THEFT IS THEFT. You accuse people of blindness when you yourself can't see the underlying issue.

GetRightRobot wrote:How about this: I'll put my Hercules next to ROTF Devastator and you tell me which one is superior.

GetRightRobot wrote:What's Hasbro going to do to a company that operates in Singapore or Taiwan or Sweden. B***H all you want, it's going to continue to happen until the market dissipates. Besides, according to you, your not even supporting Hasbro. You collect collectables, not toys in current markets. Discussing this with you is going to lead to problems. You are dull, close minded, and dramatic like a small child. You attitude towards fellow fans is disgusting and I can just bet you're REEAALLL popular with the ladies.

You're as much fun as a bag of dirty laundry.

TransformersEmporium wrote: But then youd be absolutely wrong. As I only sell, because it was fans that pushed me into doing it. I specialize in Mold remediation and Abatement, Fire and Water damages. Trans Empor, Thats just my hobby site, I usually don't make more than $10 on a sell.

TransformersEmporium wrote:
I completely agree with you.. But the good news is, is that hasbro can only do so much.
Since this thread started, Ive purchased 3 more 3rd party toys! And Hasbro, none for you!!!

TransformersEmporium wrote:Dirty laundry That Sat In the rain and then in some dark corner some where for several days after the family pet used it to relieve themself over and over again upon.

DISCHARGE wrote:

TransformersEmporium wrote:
I completely agree with you.. But the good news is, is that hasbro can only do so much.
Since this thread started, Ive purchased 3 more 3rd party toys! And Hasbro, none for you!!!

Well, that doesn't surprise me, you're website seems to sell only Knock offs
It's sites and sellers like you that hurt Hasbro's image over any other damage
that could be done. You are selling knock offs, not Transformers, there is a difference. If I was into narcing people out, I would report your business to the state of Florida. The government has every right to seize
those bootlegs. Implying to uneducated buyers like parents and friends of fans(possibly purchasing as a gift) that you are selling legitimate items is gross negligence. You are hurting the vintage collectors everywhere and misleading customers.

Bowspearer wrote:Really, I have no sense of scale, when several of my posts have pointed to sccale in this thread- including responses to posts like yours which have baselessly accused me of classing rape, torture and murder as being on the same scale as IP theft. As for your post here, it's essentially saying "well, it is theft, but it's not really theft". And someone else here was saying that people justfying unethical behaviour here wasn't a factor? I mean "who cares about some giant, faceless corporation" right? Spin all the spin you want- you're only deluding yourself. Also I can see things quite clearly here- in fact a little too clearly for your liking.

Bowspearer wrote:

GetRightRobot wrote:How about this: I'll put my Hercules next to ROTF Devastator and you tell me which one is superior.

And who ultimately owns the IP rights? But hey, why answer that question when you can skirt around it and pretend it's not the elephant in the room here.

Bowspearer wrote:

GetRightRobot wrote:What's Hasbro going to do to a company that operates in Singapore or Taiwan or Sweden. B***H all you want, it's going to continue to happen until the market dissipates. Besides, according to you, your not even supporting Hasbro. You collect collectables, not toys in current markets. Discussing this with you is going to lead to problems. You are dull, close minded, and dramatic like a small child. You attitude towards fellow fans is disgusting and I can just bet you're REEAALLL popular with the ladies.

You're as much fun as a bag of dirty laundry.

First off, I could site a case where Microsoft had someone here in Australia extradited for piracy to answer your Sweden question about just what can be done to pirates and bootleggers in another country. Secondly who said I ONLY get vintage stuff- case in point is MP Sideswipe (who's bound to get a Hasbro release), and that upcoming WFC Starsscream whom I have my eyes on. Also, the fact that your biggest cheerleader in the thread at the moment is a guy whose bread and butter is KOs and 3rd party TFs, really says alot here. Also heaven forbid I tell someone displaying disgusting ethics and justifying it with utterly childish selfishness to grow up. Oh and fyi, I've been engaged for almost a month now to an absolutely wonderful woman, so I guess we can add that to the list of fails you've made in your post.

Well, go figure seeing as I never paid this site any attention till the big Hasbro debate.

And please report me, I beg of you.... Ive had over x500 very happy customers.. I'm sure they'll care..

Don't forget, you'll have to report TF Source, Entertainment earth, as well as a slew of other places.

And no where do I say that these are vintage, and never has anyone ever been unhappy with a purchase from me. Thats right, they're all return customers.

And I was talking with someone else about all the morons on this site who apparently missed their calling as either supermarket tabloid reporter or as lawyer! But you only seem to speak out of your arse. So I don't see this convo going anywhere as Ive really lost my patience with the handicapped today.

I run a fan site, for fans by a fan.

So in the imortal words of Cortana, "You can just float and sputter".

Bowspearer wrote:

DISCHARGE wrote:

TransformersEmporium wrote:
I completely agree with you.. But the good news is, is that hasbro can only do so much.
Since this thread started, Ive purchased 3 more 3rd party toys! And Hasbro, none for you!!!

Well, that doesn't surprise me, you're website seems to sell only Knock offs
It's sites and sellers like you that hurt Hasbro's image over any other damage
that could be done. You are selling knock offs, not Transformers, there is a difference. If I was into narcing people out, I would report your business to the state of Florida. The government has every right to seize
those bootlegs. Implying to uneducated buyers like parents and friends of fans(possibly purchasing as a gift) that you are selling legitimate items is gross negligence. You are hurting the vintage collectors everywhere and misleading customers.

In fact it's worth noting that of the 17 posts he's made as of this post; 11 have been to either defend the selling of knockoffs in this thread, or advertise those he is currently selling on his site.

headsortails wrote:I'm having such a hard time understanding this, really. We have had many a discussion on here about Hasbro and them not giving, for the most part, what the COLLECTORS want, right? It has been said by some people that Hasbro ultimately thinks of the kids as their main line of profit, and that us, the COLLECTORS, are in actuality, are only 10% of their profit, right? We are now discussing how Hasbro is now starting to come down on 3rd party guys, but isn't the 3rd party makers specifically for the COLLECTOR? And since we are only 10% of those who actually buy for collection, why should it really hurt Hasbro since 90% of their money comes from the kids?

Sure, I'm going to get picked apart by what I'm trying to say, and NO I do have all info on markets and how all that stuff actually works, but I'm going by what I, the CONSUMER, want. And if I remember correctly, the consumers play the biggest part. No consumer, no product ultimately. Hasbro has more than just a Transformers line in the market. They have multiple toy lines and probably other items not toy related I don't know of. We, the COLLECTOR are only 10% (going by some people who have defended the fact of Hasbro not giving us what we want in some areas) of just one of the many different toy lines Hasbro has. 3rd party toy makers stepped in and said' "we will fill in the gap for the 10%". Now, it seems, Hasbro is taking offense, but to what?- the mere 10% of one toy line when they have so many other toy lines and whatever else they control making them money? Looks like greed to me.

Remember, this is my opinion with info I have read on these boards, not an attempt at being all knowledgeable at whats goin on.

GetRightRobot wrote:

Bowspearer wrote:Really, I have no sense of scale, when several of my posts have pointed to sccale in this thread- including responses to posts like yours which have baselessly accused me of classing rape, torture and murder as being on the same scale as IP theft. As for your post here, it's essentially saying "well, it is theft, but it's not really theft". And someone else here was saying that people justfying unethical behaviour here wasn't a factor? I mean "who cares about some giant, faceless corporation" right? Spin all the spin you want- you're only deluding yourself. Also I can see things quite clearly here- in fact a little too clearly for your liking.

Actually, since you NEVER break or infringe on any law or right, I couldn't possibly be accusing you of baby rape right? Google sacrasm.

GetRightRobot wrote:

Bowspearer wrote:

GetRightRobot wrote:How about this: I'll put my Hercules next to ROTF Devastator and you tell me which one is superior.

And who ultimately owns the IP rights? But hey, why answer that question when you can skirt around it and pretend it's not the elephant in the room here.

For the 19th time, no one is arguing rights. Nice that accuse me of avoiding the question WHILE AVOIDING A QUESTION clown shoes.

GetRightRobot wrote:

Bowspearer wrote:

GetRightRobot wrote:What's Hasbro going to do to a company that operates in Singapore or Taiwan or Sweden. B***H all you want, it's going to continue to happen until the market dissipates. Besides, according to you, your not even supporting Hasbro. You collect collectables, not toys in current markets. Discussing this with you is going to lead to problems. You are dull, close minded, and dramatic like a small child. You attitude towards fellow fans is disgusting and I can just bet you're REEAALLL popular with the ladies.

You're as much fun as a bag of dirty laundry.

First off, I could site a case where Microsoft had someone here in Australia extradited for piracy to answer your Sweden question about just what can be done to pirates and bootleggers in another country. Secondly who said I ONLY get vintage stuff- case in point is MP Sideswipe (who's bound to get a Hasbro release), and that upcoming WFC Starsscream whom I have my eyes on. Also, the fact that your biggest cheerleader in the thread at the moment is a guy whose bread and butter is KOs and 3rd party TFs, really says alot here. Also heaven forbid I tell someone displaying disgusting ethics and justifying it with utterly childish selfishness to grow up. Oh and fyi, I've been engaged for almost a month now to an absolutely wonderful woman, so I guess we can add that to the list of fails you've made in your post.

Been collecting since 1984 right? JUST got engaged a month ago huh? Interesting. Yep, you definitely are the lady killer and you've convinced me you're the life of the party

So you're planning on buying some Hasbro products in the future? That's nice.

Look, you wanna be the "Ethics" troll, go ahead, but you come off like a know-it-all ass.

TransformersEmporium wrote: And no where do I say that these are vintage

TransformersEmporium wrote: And I was talking with someone else about all the morons on this site who apparently missed their calling as either supermarket tabloid reporter or as lawyer! But you only seem to speak out of your arse. So I don't see this convo going anywhere as Ive really lost my patience with the handicapped today.

TransformersEmporium wrote: I run an online store, for profit by a seller.

Bowspearer wrote:

GetRightRobot wrote:

Bowspearer wrote:Really, I have no sense of scale....Whole bunch of stuff no one cares about, if you do, just read it above.... Also coming from someone who comes across as being incapable of reason, I'll take being called an ass as a compliment.

TransformersEmporium wrote: Well, go figure seeing as I never paid this site any attention till the big Hasbro debate.

And please report me, I beg of you.... Ive had over x500 very happy customers.. I'm sure they'll care..

Don't forget, you'll have to report TF Source, Entertainment earth, as well as a slew of other places.

And no where do I say that these are vintage, and never has anyone ever been unhappy with a purchase from me. Thats right, they're all return customers.

And I was talking with someone else about all the morons on this site who apparently missed their calling as either supermarket tabloid reporter or as lawyer! But you only seem to speak out of your arse. So I don't see this convo going anywhere as Ive really lost my patience with the handicapped today.

I run a fan site, for fans by a fan.

So in the imortal words of Cortana, "You can just float and sputter".

Bowspearer wrote:

DISCHARGE wrote:

TransformersEmporium wrote:
I completely agree with you.. But the good news is, is that hasbro can only do so much.
Since this thread started, Ive purchased 3 more 3rd party toys! And Hasbro, none for you!!!

Well, that doesn't surprise me, you're website seems to sell only Knock offs
It's sites and sellers like you that hurt Hasbro's image over any other damage
that could be done. You are selling knock offs, not Transformers, there is a difference. If I was into narcing people out, I would report your business to the state of Florida. The government has every right to seize
those bootlegs. Implying to uneducated buyers like parents and friends of fans(possibly purchasing as a gift) that you are selling legitimate items is gross negligence. You are hurting the vintage collectors everywhere and misleading customers.

In fact it's worth noting that of the 17 posts he's made as of this post; 11 have been to either defend the selling of knockoffs in this thread, or advertise those he is currently selling on his site.

optimuscarlos wrote:I've been a Hasbro/Takara costumer for years, but Im' not a fan of theses companies,
I am a fan of transformers. If I see a better product elsewhere I will buy it.
I am not one of those who thinks that if doesn't say HASBRO/TAKARA under their feet is not a transformer.
I don't care under what brand the toy came I only care about the final result. Third party have been doing amazing pieces of art for years. Yeah, some have some CQ issues but Hasbro/Takara also have them.

INSECTICOS
CONSTUCTICONS
SIXSHOT
Hearts of steel designs
ARCEE
SPRINGGER
MP SOUNDWAVE
and more....
These are only some of the good stuff coming from third party. If not for them, we would never had the chance to have this characters executed in a way that fans want.
I'm not against Hasbro/Takara, but their work has other vision, they try to make a toy fun for children and appealing to the adult collector but sometimes something is missing on both sides.
Third party bring to us (adult collectors fans), a product only for us, and I support that. If cool stuff keep comming from third party I will keep buying from them.

KEEP THE GREAT WORK GUYS!!!

El Duque wrote:The TFC Toys Hercules team has far less in common with Hasbro's Devastator team than the Chevy Silverado has with the Ford F-150.

Bowspearer wrote:

TransformersEmporium wrote: And no where do I say that these are vintage

It's what you don't say. There's nothing in each category to explicitly state that they are knock-offs, and someone starting out or someone buying for a fan could easily mistake a KO for a bargain. It's entirely reasonable to accuse that of being at best, negligent, and at worst, deliberately misleading.

TransformersEmporium wrote: And I was talking with someone else about all the morons on this site who apparently missed their calling as either supermarket tabloid reporter or as lawyer! But you only seem to speak out of your arse. So I don't see this convo going anywhere as Ive really lost my patience with the handicapped today.

I imagine someone who has clearly spent their life confusing methane for reason would say this.

TransformersEmporium wrote: I run an online store, for profit by a seller.

Fixed

Hey, I only touched methane once, and it was in college.
Plus only an utter moron would think they can buy a MISB Sunstreaker for $65 delivered really.
Is that what happened to you? did you do that???
Because I have a long track record of policing sites and even ebay for KO's.
Making sure that people arent getting scammed.
So for you to even emply that theres anything shady about me, shows a complete lack of intelligence on your part. because I personally find it very insulting.

optimuscarlos wrote:I've been a Hasbro/Takara costumer for years, but Im' not a fan of theses companies,
I am a fan of transformers. If I see a better product elsewhere I will buy it.
I am not one of those who thinks that if doesn't say HASBRO/TAKARA under their feet is not a transformer.
I don't care under what brand the toy came I only care about the final result. Third party have been doing amazing pieces of art for years. Yeah, some have some CQ issues but Hasbro/Takara also have them.

INSECTICOS
CONSTUCTICONS
SIXSHOT
Hearts of steel designs
ARCEE
SPRINGGER
MP SOUNDWAVE
and more....
These are only some of the good stuff coming from third party. If not for them, we would never had the chance to have this characters executed in a way that fans want.
I'm not against Hasbro/Takara, but their work has other vision, they try to make a toy fun for children and appealing to the adult collector but sometimes something is missing on both sides.
Third party bring to us (adult collectors fans), a product only for us, and I support that. If cool stuff keep comming from third party I will keep buying from them.

TransformersEmporium wrote:Thats what Im talking about.. This guy is a true fan..
Not like some of these wannabe lawyers or the other buttheads on here thinking their God,
He knows whats important. "The fans"

A true fan is somebody who agrees completely and rigidly with the viewpoint of the person using the term. It's often uncanny, how your opinions are exactly those of a true fan.

Examples: "My point of view is the correct one, and if you disagree with me you're not a true fan, and thus not worthy of my time."
"Anyone who likes Beast Machines isn't a true fan."
"Anyone who doesn't like Simon Furman isn't a true fan."
"Anyone who thinks Rumble is red isn't a true fan."
"Anyone who likes Bayformers isn't a true fan."

Needless to say, these sorts of people rather annoy most other fans, who regard them as far more likely to ruin it for everyone else than anything Hasbro is ever likely to do. They love not wisely but too well. Or they could just be jerks. This is a form of the no true Scotsman fallacy.

No true Scotsman is an informal logical fallacy, an ad hoc attempt to retain an unreasoned assertion. When faced with a counterexample to a universal claim, rather than denying the counterexample or rejecting the original universal claim, this fallacy modifies the subject of the assertion to exclude the specific case or others like it by rhetoric, without reference to any specific objective rule.

Bowspearer wrote:

El Duque wrote:The TFC Toys Hercules team has far less in common with Hasbro's Devastator team than the Chevy Silverado has with the Ford F-150.

Really, so you're saying that this:



doesn't closely resemble this:

?

There's more than enough likeness there to prove what Hercules is based on.

Bowspearer wrote:

optimuscarlos wrote:I've been a Hasbro/Takara costumer for years, but Im' not a fan of theses companies,
I am a fan of transformers. If I see a better product elsewhere I will buy it.
I am not one of those who thinks that if doesn't say HASBRO/TAKARA under their feet is not a transformer.
I don't care under what brand the toy came I only care about the final result. Third party have been doing amazing pieces of art for years. Yeah, some have some CQ issues but Hasbro/Takara also have them.

INSECTICOS
CONSTUCTICONS
SIXSHOT
Hearts of steel designs
ARCEE
SPRINGGER
MP SOUNDWAVE
and more....
These are only some of the good stuff coming from third party. If not for them, we would never had the chance to have this characters executed in a way that fans want.
I'm not against Hasbro/Takara, but their work has other vision, they try to make a toy fun for children and appealing to the adult collector but sometimes something is missing on both sides.
Third party bring to us (adult collectors fans), a product only for us, and I support that. If cool stuff keep comming from third party I will keep buying from them.

And why would Hasbro do these designs when 3rd Party companies beat them to it? The fact that we're getting more WFC in the next generations wave means that HOS might have been possible in the next couple of years. Now though it'sa got buckleys of happening- just like all the KOs had us waiting 10+ years for a reissue Devastator.

TransformersEmporium wrote:Thats what Im talking about.. This guy is a true fan..
Not like some of these wannabe lawyers or the other buttheads on here thinking their God,
He knows whats important. "The fans"

True fan:

A true fan is somebody who agrees completely and rigidly with the viewpoint of the person using the term. It's often uncanny, how your opinions are exactly those of a true fan.

Examples: "My point of view is the correct one, and if you disagree with me you're not a true fan, and thus not worthy of my time."
"Anyone who likes Beast Machines isn't a true fan."
"Anyone who doesn't like Simon Furman isn't a true fan."
"Anyone who thinks Rumble is red isn't a true fan."
"Anyone who likes Bayformers isn't a true fan."

Needless to say, these sorts of people rather annoy most other fans, who regard them as far more likely to ruin it for everyone else than anything Hasbro is ever likely to do. They love not wisely but too well. Or they could just be jerks. This is a form of the no true Scotsman fallacy.

No true Scotsman:

No true Scotsman is an informal logical fallacy, an ad hoc attempt to retain an unreasoned assertion. When faced with a counterexample to a universal claim, rather than denying the counterexample or rejecting the original universal claim, this fallacy modifies the subject of the assertion to exclude the specific case or others like it by rhetoric, without reference to any specific objective rule.

You were saying?

TransformersEmporium wrote:

Bowspearer wrote:

TransformersEmporium wrote: And no where do I say that these are vintage

It's what you don't say. There's nothing in each category to explicitly state that they are knock-offs, and someone starting out or someone buying for a fan could easily mistake a KO for a bargain. It's entirely reasonable to accuse that of being at best, negligent, and at worst, deliberately misleading.

TransformersEmporium wrote: And I was talking with someone else about all the morons on this site who apparently missed their calling as either supermarket tabloid reporter or as lawyer! But you only seem to speak out of your arse. So I don't see this convo going anywhere as Ive really lost my patience with the handicapped today.

I imagine someone who has clearly spent their life confusing methane for reason would say this.

TransformersEmporium wrote: I run an online store, for profit by a seller.

Fixed

Hey, I only touched methane once, and it was in college.
Plus only an utter moron would think they can buy a MISB Sunstreaker for $65 delivered really.
Is that what happened to you? did you do that???
Because I have a long track record of policing sites and even ebay for KO's.
Making sure that people arent getting scammed.
So for you to even emply that theres anything shady about me, shows a complete lack of intelligence on your part. because I personally find it very insulting.