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by **Sportimus Prime** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:51 am

Loki41872 wrote:maybe the movie takes place in 2009?

Thank you! Good answer! :cool:

It could be that or:

1. Automakers do test drive their concepts/prototypes on real roads in different cities to get a real world result of how the car functions and handles.

2. The car was coming to or from an auto show (hey, it could happen).

3. A car magazine could be test driving one for an article they are going to write about it in a near future issue.

4. A very spoiled rich kid/guy just had to have one NOW.

5. Like you said, the film takes place in 2009, or late 2008.

6. The car was being used for another Hollywood movie. You know, like a fictitious one like Go-Bots, or yet another Fast and the Furious sequel.

7. It was a custom some rich car nut like Jay Leno would have paid for.

by **Auto Bot** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:27 am

The reason behind the Camaro is that, this is a movie. It's a fiction. It's not pinned on any specific historical period. We could have any type of concept or imaginary vehicle design, as long as it is close to reality.

But i still don't like the "scan anytime, reformat anytime" idea.

by **Deadpool.** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:30 am

Auto Bot wrote:The reason behind the Camaro is that, this is a movie. It's a fiction. It's not pinned on any specific historical period. We could have any type of concept or imaginary vehicle design, as long as it is close to reality.

But i still don't like the "scan anytime, reformat anytime" idea.

And it's somewhat illogical. I mean, what if other drivers see a 77 Camaro suddenly turning into an 08 Camaro right before their very eyes?

by **Auto Bot** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:37 am

Psycho Warrior wrote:
Auto Bot wrote:The reason behind the Camaro is that, this is a movie. It's a fiction. It's not pinned on any specific historical period. We could have any type of concept or imaginary vehicle design, as long as it is close to reality.

But i still don't like the "scan anytime, reformat anytime" idea.
And it's somewhat illogical. I mean, what if other drivers see a 77 Camaro suddenly turning into an 08 Camaro right before their very eyes?

They didn't see it. The other vehicles are props. No drivers. Just remote controls.

News Credits: 1 · by **Leonardo** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:42 am

Auto Bot wrote:
Psycho Warrior wrote:
Auto Bot wrote:The reason behind the Camaro is that, this is a movie. It's a fiction. It's not pinned on any specific historical period. We could have any type of concept or imaginary vehicle design, as long as it is close to reality.

But i still don't like the "scan anytime, reformat anytime" idea.
And it's somewhat illogical. I mean, what if other drivers see a 77 Camaro suddenly turning into an 08 Camaro right before their very eyes?

They didn't see it. The other vehicles are props. No drivers. Just remote controls.

Or other Transformers themselves...

I didn't really like the transcanning, either.

by **Auto Bot** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:07 am

Leonardo wrote:
Auto Bot wrote:
Psycho Warrior wrote:
Auto Bot wrote:The reason behind the Camaro is that, this is a movie. It's a fiction. It's not pinned on any specific historical period. We could have any type of concept or imaginary vehicle design, as long as it is close to reality.

But i still don't like the "scan anytime, reformat anytime" idea.
And it's somewhat illogical. I mean, what if other drivers see a 77 Camaro suddenly turning into an 08 Camaro right before their very eyes?

They didn't see it. The other vehicles are props. No drivers. Just remote controls.

Or other Transformers themselves...

I didn't really like the transcanning, either.

Makes them like T-1000.

News Credits: 2 · by **Insurgent** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 10:55 am

Auto Bot wrote:What i don't like is that, Bumblebee can scan and reformat himself anytime of the day. Even on Christmas day!

I prefer a more permanent alt form.

Sure, they can scan by themselves, but only once. And it should take some special situation to be able to reformat into something else.

QFT!

Even once is too much. They should need some outside force (eg Teletraan 1 or a CR chamber) to do it. Or what's to stop Megatron scanning the Death Star, or Unicron, turning into them, and threatening every world he comes across.

News Credits: 1 · by **lodelco** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 10:57 am

Insurgent wrote:
Auto Bot wrote:What i don't like is that, Bumblebee can scan and reformat himself anytime of the day. Even on Christmas day!

I prefer a more permanent alt form.

Sure, they can scan by themselves, but only once. And it should take some special situation to be able to reformat into something else.

QFT!

Even once is too much. They should need some outside force (eg Teletraan 1 or a CR chamber) to do it. Or what's to stop Megatron scanning the Death Star, or Unicron, turning into them, and threatening every world he comes across.

Its just a cloaking device. I don't think he'd necessarily get the Death Star's abilities OR become Unicron.

News Credits: 2 · by **An_de** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 11:06 am

A scene that bugs me is when Frenzy threw that shureken (sorry if I wrote "shureken" incorrectly) and when he sliced his head - he is a robot, he is able to calculate it's destination. How could he allow this mistake?

by **Auto Bot** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 11:17 am

An_de wrote:A scene that bugs me is when Frenzy threw that shureken (sorry if I wrote "shureken" incorrectly) and when he sliced his head - he is a robot, he is able to calculate it's destination. How could he allow this mistake?

The gravity pull of Cybertron is multiplied by a different factor.

Frenzy didn't know that!

So, don't tell him, ok? Or he may come back in the sequel!

News Credits: 2 · by **Insurgent** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 11:18 am

lodelco wrote:
Insurgent wrote:
Auto Bot wrote:What i don't like is that, Bumblebee can scan and reformat himself anytime of the day. Even on Christmas day!

I prefer a more permanent alt form.

Sure, they can scan by themselves, but only once. And it should take some special situation to be able to reformat into something else.

QFT!

Even once is too much. They should need some outside force (eg Teletraan 1 or a CR chamber) to do it. Or what's to stop Megatron scanning the Death Star, or Unicron, turning into them, and threatening every world he comes across.

Its just a cloaking device. I don't think he'd necessarily get the Death Star's abilities OR become Unicron.

If he scanned Unicron's planet mode, he would become Unicron planet mode. And then he could eat any planet that disagreed with him. And the Matrix wouldn't stop him, he isn't Unicron. And how would he get that size I hear you ask?

MASS SHIFTING! Good for all your unexplanable things. Quick, buy buy buy, upgrade now for only £10.99 and get this free insta-glue free. Got a robot that fell to pieces as he couldn't handle things, or just want to give him that extra shine, Insta-glue is the way to go.

I don't think Frenzy expected that richochet. Didn't it deflect off something a human moved, thus throwing it onto a new trajectory?

News Credits: 1 · by **lodelco** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 11:22 am

Insurgent wrote:If he scanned Unicron's planet mode, he would become Unicron planet mode. And then he could eat any planet that disagreed with him. And the Matrix wouldn't stop him, he isn't Unicron. And how would he get that size I hear you ask?

MASS SHIFTING! Good for all your unexplanable things. Quick, buy buy buy, upgrade now for only £10.99 and get this free insta-glue free. Got a robot that fell to pieces as he couldn't handle things, or just want to give him that extra shine, Insta-glue is the way to go.

I don't think Frenzy expected that richochet. Didn't it deflect off something a human moved, thus throwing it onto a new trajectory?

Oh hell.

And if the leaked treatment for TF2 was right, well, goodbye humanity!

Hnn I have no idea. Seemed like it was ricocheting off the pillars.

by **Auto Bot** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 11:29 am

lodelco wrote:
Insurgent wrote:If he scanned Unicron's planet mode, he would become Unicron planet mode. And then he could eat any planet that disagreed with him. And the Matrix wouldn't stop him, he isn't Unicron. And how would he get that size I hear you ask?

MASS SHIFTING! Good for all your unexplanable things. Quick, buy buy buy, upgrade now for only £10.99 and get this free insta-glue free. Got a robot that fell to pieces as he couldn't handle things, or just want to give him that extra shine, Insta-glue is the way to go.

I don't think Frenzy expected that richochet. Didn't it deflect off something a human moved, thus throwing it onto a new trajectory?

Oh hell.

And if the leaked treatment for TF2 was right, well, goodbye humanity!

Hnn I have no idea. Seemed like it was ricocheting off the pillars.

Why didn't he throw it accurately at the human in the first place?

News Credits: 2 · by **Insurgent** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 11:35 am

They ducked? :???:

I've only seen the movie once, I can't remember every little detail.

And what is this about leaked treatment for TF2? What happens? It's a Bay film, they'll just send Bruce Willis up on a rocket and nuc MegaCron. :lol:

News Credits: 1 · by **lodelco** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 11:49 am

Insurgent wrote:They ducked?

I've only seen the movie once, I can't remember every little detail.

And what is this about leaked treatment for TF2? What happens? It's a Bay film, they'll just send Bruce Willis up on a rocket and nuc MegaCron.

Nah, they're asking why Frenzy couldn't evade his own attack given that he's an advanced alien robot. I just think he may be a tad bit of an idiot.

I've read the supposed treated for TF2. If its real its going to rock so much ass. People have been comparing it to Empire Strikes Back or Dead Man's Chest.

by **Auto Bot** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 12:05 pm

I'm just glad Frenzy is gone.

by **mechajol** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:47 pm

Saberwing wrote:Its called product placement...

...and for storyline purposes, maybe the designers were test driving a prototype?

someone do a "Mosaic" comics about this scene.

News Credits: 1 · by **Bumbled** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 4:52 pm

Hey it's a movie.. anything can happen!

News Credits: 4 · by **General Magnus** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 6:46 pm

I always assumed the movie was in the near future. Ospryes and Raptors flying around in large numbers and such.

by **Auto Bot** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 11:47 am

Those exotic concept cars do put it a bit ahead of our time.

News Credits: 1 · by **Agent 007** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 4:20 pm

Pontimax 01 wrote:
Sherade wrote:I've seen ONE, but the hardtop is mondo expensive.

Must have been aftermarket. Pontiac doesn't offer (check their site) the removable hardtop from the factory or as a GM accessory (yet). Only come soft tops. But they have been and probably still are toying with the idea of a strictly hardtop model. Nonremovable roof, and it's kinda ugly.

yes it's set for a 2009 release with a slightly bigger engine :-B

News Credits: 1 · by **Pontimax 01** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 5:00 pm

Mr.Bond007 wrote:
Pontimax 01 wrote:
Sherade wrote:I've seen ONE, but the hardtop is mondo expensive.

Must have been aftermarket. Pontiac doesn't offer (check their site) the removable hardtop from the factory or as a GM accessory (yet). Only come soft tops. But they have been and probably still are toying with the idea of a strictly hardtop model. Nonremovable roof, and it's kinda ugly.
yes it's set for a 2009 release with a slightly bigger engine

For the N/A'ed? The GXP version got a new motor, the 260hp/260ft.lbs turbo. And it zips around nicely from all accounts.

News Credits: 1 · by **Sherade** » Sat Oct 13, 2007 5:02 pm

I dunno, I like the V10 I saw. I beleived it was called "The Pitbull." One hell of a solstice. Personally, I could care less for a Solstice, not enough muscle for me, also, I can't fit in one...at least I don't know how to adjust the seat..

News Credits: 1 · by **Sky Glory of Iacon** » Sun Oct 14, 2007 1:44 am

Pontimax 01 wrote:Test mules are seen on roads all the time in certain areas. Michigan is one, desert roads are another out near the various manufacturer proving grounds. Sometimes you'll see them wrapped in camo disguise to hide curves and such, but they are among us. There are currently Camaro mules running around backroads in Australia according to various automotive spy-shot journalists. Motortrend just reported getting a tour of Death Valley in a Pontiac G8 mule that they were testing for powertrain and NVH accessments, public roads. They are out there, most of us just aren't either in the right area at the right time, or don't notice them. If your lucky enough to get a shot of one though, many mags will buy the photo.

I live in Dayton, and I personally got to see a Solstice and a STS a year before they appeared on lots. My dad works for GM (salary) here and his plant manager had one of each before release to make comments on and basically show off to neighbors and such. I think he had a 2006 Corvette Z06 for awhile too. Talk about perks.

The rest of it is like everyone else says. It's a movie, and it plays on your suspension of disbelief. You're watching a movie about autonomous alien robots doing battle on earth, so they figured you probably won't bicker over that detail too much.

They forget that fans do bicker alot about details. But you are right. I have seen road tests of Bumblebee there was a guy who was driving down I-75 in a camero just like the movie bots car mode. I have seen him and I have seen Jazz the hard top verison on my way to class one day.