Aging Transformer turning goldish/brown!!! Help!
Aging Transformer turning goldish/brown!!! Help!
Posted by ajhill80 Tue Feb 26, 2013 12:32 pm
Today, I pulled out my Fortress Maximus transformer. I've had it in storage in an air tight container for about 5 years now. I've been in the Army and had my old collectibles in storage until I got out. Anyways, to my horror, Fort Max has somehow turned color. Parts of him have turned a rusty color, some parts look like a rusty orange shadow, like he's been in the sun for years, but not all of the discoloration fits that pattern. Does anyone have any idea why he would be changing color?!? And is there anything I can do to bring him back to his original luster? Please help! Thanks!!!
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Re: Aging Transformer turning goldish/brown!!! Help!
Posted by RAcast Tue Feb 26, 2013 12:35 pm
Pictures would be a great deal of use.
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Re: Aging Transformer turning goldish/brown!!! Help!
Posted by ajhill80 Tue Feb 26, 2013 12:42 pm
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Re: Aging Transformer turning goldish/brown!!! Help!
Posted by RAcast Tue Feb 26, 2013 12:47 pm
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Re: Aging Transformer turning goldish/brown!!! Help!
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat Tue Feb 26, 2013 12:59 pm
However, it's a very delicate process that involves disassembling the figure, and corrosive chemicals, in this case Hydrogen Peroxide. If you're not comfortable with either, consider settling for a lower price.
As it stands though, you will have to sell him off quickly, as we're getting a Fortress Maximus reissue by TakaraTomy sometime in March/April, and that will affect the selling price.
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Re: Aging Transformer turning goldish/brown!!! Help!
Posted by El Duque Tue Feb 26, 2013 1:27 pm
Fortunately for you yellowig is reversible. I've reversed yellowing and other discoloring in many G1 figures including Fort Max. The process involves hydrogen peroxide and UV light.
1) Disassemble the figure, separate the parts to be whitened, remove as much metal as possible. Occasionally you will encounted a pin that cannot be removed, if so it's not the end of the world, but if I recall you won't have this issue with Max. Be careful to keep everything organized for reassembly, taking pictures along the way can be helpful.
2) Acquire some hydrogen peroxide and clear sealable containers. Any strength will work from the 3% brown bottles you can get a Wal-Mart to the 30% you can get a pool supply store. In my experience the higher strength stuff works much faster, though it does require some extra precations. It will cause mild chemical burns to the skin.
3) Place the yellowed parts in the clear sealable containers and pour in the hydrogen peroxide until they are submerged. Be careful not to over crowd the parts, because they need to be exposed to UV light. Parts that are hidden behind others will not be exposed and thus not be whitened. In the case of Max some of his parts were so big, like his ramps and thighs, I had to lay them in Pyrex baking dishes and cover with plastic wrap.
4) Place your containers in direct sun light. I have a large mirror that I place my containers on so the UV get reflected up from the bottom as well. Let the parts set until they achieve the whiteness you desire. I find it helps to go out and occasionally stir the parts around just to ensure equal exposure. I've heard of others using UV lights, but the sun is the ultimage UV lamp and it's free.
5) Remove the parts and rinse them in fresh water, dry, and reassemble.
The more severe the yellowing the longer the process will take, and it also depends on what strength of peroxide you choose. I've heard of the 3% stuff taking days, while the higher strength stuff can work in minutes or hours. Stickers will often survive limited exposure, but if you're concerned the stickers can be removed using zippo lighter fluid and a sharp razor. Removed them, lay them on wax paper, and store them under a heavy flat object on in a phone book. You can apply 3M spray adhesive to reapply them. I would recommend trying this process with a junker before working on Max, but the yellowing can be reversed. Good luck.
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Re: Aging Transformer turning goldish/brown!!! Help!
Posted by ajhill80 Tue Feb 26, 2013 1:46 pm
If I don't do the peroxide bath, how much do you think a complete Fort Max is worth? I'm sorry for all the questions, I'm new to reselling these guys. I'd hate to ruin something someone else would enjoy having. Thanks again
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Re: Aging Transformer turning goldish/brown!!! Help!
Posted by El Duque Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:31 pm
Here's some pictures I took while I was whitening my Fort Max. As you can see the yellowing on mine wasn't severe, but it was noticeable and it always bothered me. I think the reassembled picture speaks for itself.

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