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FINAL ISSUE! Spike has survived the war, but can he handle RAVAGE? Bumblebee goes it alone to clean up the wreckage, but a new enemy awaits! This one sets the stage for the biggest TRANSFORMERS news since transforming cogs first came off the assembly line! What’s the news? Pick up the issue and find out!
Mike Costa, Zander Cannon (w) • Guido Guidi, Chee (a) • Guidi, Chee (c)
cannonfodder4000 wrote:i'm not interested in the transformers comics but can anyone tell me why this one is so bad ?
Cyberstrike wrote:cannonfodder4000 wrote:i'm not interested in the transformers comics but can anyone tell me why this one is so bad ?
Because it's a different take on the Transformers because at the start the Decepticons won the war and are running rough shot all over Earth and destroying every major city on the planet while what is left of the Autobots are stuck on a dead Cybertron with Optimus Prime in a coma and there is a traitor supposedly in the Autobot's midst.
IMHO the reason for much of the hatred of AHM is that takes one place one year after Revelation (which is IMO the worse Transformer comic ever) and that a lot of the precious continuity is strictly adhered too, also because it's not written by Simon Furman, who way too many fans think he should be the ONLY writer to ever write a Transformers comic. After reading Transformers: All Hail Megatron TPB vol. 1, it's IMHO far better than Furman's whole IDW output which was all over the place, had stupid subplot on top of stupid subplot on top of yet another stupid subplot, and filled with a ton of dull and disappointing action sequences.
All Hail Megatron is the first comic that I read since Miracleman that I can remember the action scenes (something I can't ever remember is a comic book fight because I've read a lot of comics over the years), and this has some of the most emotional scenes and Guido's art does something that no ONE has ever done to me I was actually terrified by the Decepticons. And as far as I'm concerned Transformers: All Hail Megatron is a great series and is the best Transformers series IDW has ever put out and yes, I've read all of Furman's stuff.
Mkall wrote:Cyberstrike wrote:cannonfodder4000 wrote:i'm not interested in the transformers comics but can anyone tell me why this one is so bad ?
Because it's a different take on the Transformers because at the start the Decepticons won the war and are running rough shot all over Earth and destroying every major city on the planet while what is left of the Autobots are stuck on a dead Cybertron with Optimus Prime in a coma and there is a traitor supposedly in the Autobot's midst.
IMHO the reason for much of the hatred of AHM is that takes one place one year after Revelation (which is IMO the worse Transformer comic ever) and that a lot of the precious continuity is strictly adhered too, also because it's not written by Simon Furman, who way too many fans think he should be the ONLY writer to ever write a Transformers comic. After reading Transformers: All Hail Megatron TPB vol. 1, it's IMHO far better than Furman's whole IDW output which was all over the place, had stupid subplot on top of stupid subplot on top of yet another stupid subplot, and filled with a ton of dull and disappointing action sequences.
All Hail Megatron is the first comic that I read since Miracleman that I can remember the action scenes (something I can't ever remember is a comic book fight because I've read a lot of comics over the years), and this has some of the most emotional scenes and Guido's art does something that no ONE has ever done to me I was actually terrified by the Decepticons. And as far as I'm concerned Transformers: All Hail Megatron is a great series and is the best Transformers series IDW has ever put out and yes, I've read all of Furman's stuff.
You're certainly entitled to your oppinion, and in parts I can agree with you, but I think that your thinking why readers don't like AHM is off base. The first reason was that it took the diverse universe created in the -tion series and appeared to crumple it up and throw it out the in the waste basket. It required an additional 4 issues to explain the major progression once IDW realised how many plot holes there were (Kup and Perceptor being two of the most glaring). Now most fans were ok with the premise when it was first announced because IDW mentioned that it wouldn't be canon, then they turned around and said it would be. The Readers felt slightly betrayed by that which may or may not have coloured their oppinions. Simon Furman is a quintessential writer for TF comics, but saying readers were mad because he didn't write it is fairly narrow minded. Readers were mad because the characters were shallow, the story had more holes than a seive and there was very little development. Throw in a new character who is basically IDW power character (Drift, although no one seems to complain that Snake Eyes is overpowered...), a human story line which kinda fizzles out and changing artists mid way through? That's why readers didn't like it much.
Compare AHM to Maximum Dinobots, where Furman took 3-4 unfinished plot threads and tied them up in 5 issues, while still leaving some freaking cool action scenes and dialogue, and I think you'll see why AHM's story was lacking and drawn out.
I was actually terrified by the Decepticons.
Black Bumblebee wrote:Was AHM perfect? No. But it sure as hell does not deserve the bitch slap I've seen a lot of the fans give it.
Black Bumblebee wrote:Bombshell comes off as creepy. Thundercracker finally does more than quietly questioning, Starscream adds some depth to his character past the "I shall rule" mentality.
And Megatron? We realize that he has a brain that exists past the "I will conquer everyone" mentality. He is, actually, trying to install in new Cybertronian government, and realizes that the brute force of the Decepticons are the only way he will be able to achieve his goals.
Chaoslock wrote:A Spike Witwicky story... The worst storyline in AHM , and they give him a Coda issue, too... And as I see from the preview, this will be as bad as the AHM issues.
IDW comics before AHM used actual realistic-character humans, while AHM used the most cliché characters. The only comics that were worse than AHM was the Avengers crossover, but at least that was just a sidestory, and last only four issues.I was actually terrified by the Decepticons.
Terrified by decepticons? You'll need to re-read the Infiltration. Megatron shooting a hole through Starscream point-blank ring a bell?
Convotron wrote:Now just to go off topic momentarily, can anyone explain to me why every Cybertronian in the IDW comics speak with Earth slang and such? I specifically ask about the IDW comics because it's the most recent Transformers read of mine. Simon Furman is revered but despite my appreciation for his plotting, which I think is great, I find his dialogue...mediocre at best and it's partly due to the poorly conceived dialogue. He and most other writers in the IDW comics I've read do the same thing where the dialogue given to Cybertronians seem out of place. I can understand those who have gone to Earth picking up slang and such but not characters who haven't gone to the planet.
Cyberstrike wrote:Starscream turning Sixshot off (which just about killed my interest in IDW's Transformers because Furman had built Sixshot up to be a real bad ass)
Darth Bombshell wrote:Cyberstrike wrote:Starscream turning Sixshot off (which just about killed my interest in IDW's Transformers because Furman had built Sixshot up to be a real bad ass)
True, and since Sixshot was basically a walking WMD, if he didn't tow the line, he was basically unstoppable. You're saying it would be a good idea to having him running around without some means of control?
Ultra Magnus wrote:
When does #16 come out again?
tigertracks 24 wrote:Even the infallible Don Figueroa is now getting criticized by a community that for the most part, really enjoyed the hell out of his design of generation one characters, classic, or updated, or brand new.
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