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American Era Gundam Toy Discussion

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Re: American Era Gundam Toy Discussion

Postby Badass Grimlock » Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:54 pm

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Convotron wrote:Actually, experience with traditional model kits is great. Gundam model kits, at least the ones made within the last 20 years or so, are snap assembly model kits. They're straight forward as far as the build process as they don't require glue/cement. Also, the more current model kits have colour molded plastic parts so you don't even have to paint the model if you don't want to. Stickers are usually included to detail the model kit.

So you shouldn't have any terrible problems working on Gundam model kits(aka gunpla). They're very "user friendly". Just take your time with the first kit or two to get a feel for them and you'll be fine.

The best kits to work on in the beginning in my opinion are the High Grade model kits, which come in two basic scale varieties(1/144 and 1/100). They're inexpensive and are good for "learning the ropes" of gunpla. They're also well detailed and look great as straight build models(obviously they'll look better if you give them your own paint job).

There's some information in this thread as far as gunpla tips but there's a plethora of great info at various web sites. Searching for "gunpla gundam model kits faq tutorial" and so on will get you a lot of comprehensive guides to gunpla.


Awesome! Hopefully I'll have a good time building my "1/144 Scale Z'Gok Mass Production Type"! I've also heard if you have a super-thin Sharpie lying around you could put it to use by detailing the seams on certain parts of your Gundam.

(My sister walked into the room as I finished that last sentence and said "Gundam! You give me Gum-Gum!" :D)
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Re: American Era Gundam Toy Discussion

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Wed Jul 14, 2010 10:17 pm

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Convotron wrote:Actually, experience with traditional model kits is great. Gundam model kits, at least the ones made within the last 20 years or so, are snap assembly model kits. They're straight forward as far as the build process as they don't require glue/cement. Also, the more current model kits have colour molded plastic parts so you don't even have to paint the model if you don't want to. Stickers are usually included to detail the model kit.

So you shouldn't have any terrible problems working on Gundam model kits(aka gunpla). They're very "user friendly". Just take your time with the first kit or two to get a feel for them and you'll be fine.

The best kits to work on in the beginning in my opinion are the High Grade model kits, which come in two basic scale varieties(1/144 and 1/100). They're inexpensive and are good for "learning the ropes" of gunpla. They're also well detailed and look great as straight build models(obviously they'll look better if you give them your own paint job).

There's some information in this thread as far as gunpla tips but there's a plethora of great info at various web sites. Searching for "gunpla gundam model kits faq tutorial" and so on will get you a lot of comprehensive guides to gunpla.


Awesome! Hopefully I'll have a good time building my "1/144 Scale Z'Gok Mass Production Type"! I've also heard if you have a super-thin Sharpie lying around you could put it to use by detailing the seams on certain parts of your Gundam.

(My sister walked into the room as I finished that last sentence and said "Gundam! You give me Gum-Gum!" :D)


As someone who is very new to Gunpla the only bit of advice I can give you is don't be overwhelmed by the instructions. At first it'll seem like gibberish but once you figure out the Spruce letter/Part number code it'll be a breeze. Also don't breathe into the mouth to make it come to life because a life will be lost in it's place. (Lets see who gets that one)
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Re: American Era Gundam Toy Discussion

Postby Badass Grimlock » Wed Jul 14, 2010 10:33 pm

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Sackjack wrote:
Convotron wrote:Actually, experience with traditional model kits is great. Gundam model kits, at least the ones made within the last 20 years or so, are snap assembly model kits. They're straight forward as far as the build process as they don't require glue/cement. Also, the more current model kits have colour molded plastic parts so you don't even have to paint the model if you don't want to. Stickers are usually included to detail the model kit.

So you shouldn't have any terrible problems working on Gundam model kits(aka gunpla). They're very "user friendly". Just take your time with the first kit or two to get a feel for them and you'll be fine.

The best kits to work on in the beginning in my opinion are the High Grade model kits, which come in two basic scale varieties(1/144 and 1/100). They're inexpensive and are good for "learning the ropes" of gunpla. They're also well detailed and look great as straight build models(obviously they'll look better if you give them your own paint job).

There's some information in this thread as far as gunpla tips but there's a plethora of great info at various web sites. Searching for "gunpla gundam model kits faq tutorial" and so on will get you a lot of comprehensive guides to gunpla.


Awesome! Hopefully I'll have a good time building my "1/144 Scale Z'Gok Mass Production Type"! I've also heard if you have a super-thin Sharpie lying around you could put it to use by detailing the seams on certain parts of your Gundam.

(My sister walked into the room as I finished that last sentence and said "Gundam! You give me Gum-Gum!" :D)


As someone who is very new to Gunpla the only bit of advice I can give you is don't be overwhelmed by the instructions. At first it'll seem like gibberish but once you figure out the Spruce letter/Part number code it'll be a breeze. Also don't breathe into the mouth to make it come to life because a life will be lost in it's place. (Lets see who gets that one)


Usually, I just twist all of them off and when a part is needed, I just find it in the pile. LEGO style, basically.
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Re: American Era Gundam Toy Discussion

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Re: American Era Gundam Toy Discussion

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:26 am

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Sackjack wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Sackjack wrote:
Convotron wrote:Actually, experience with traditional model kits is great. Gundam model kits, at least the ones made within the last 20 years or so, are snap assembly model kits. They're straight forward as far as the build process as they don't require glue/cement. Also, the more current model kits have colour molded plastic parts so you don't even have to paint the model if you don't want to. Stickers are usually included to detail the model kit.

So you shouldn't have any terrible problems working on Gundam model kits(aka gunpla). They're very "user friendly". Just take your time with the first kit or two to get a feel for them and you'll be fine.

The best kits to work on in the beginning in my opinion are the High Grade model kits, which come in two basic scale varieties(1/144 and 1/100). They're inexpensive and are good for "learning the ropes" of gunpla. They're also well detailed and look great as straight build models(obviously they'll look better if you give them your own paint job).

There's some information in this thread as far as gunpla tips but there's a plethora of great info at various web sites. Searching for "gunpla gundam model kits faq tutorial" and so on will get you a lot of comprehensive guides to gunpla.


Awesome! Hopefully I'll have a good time building my "1/144 Scale Z'Gok Mass Production Type"! I've also heard if you have a super-thin Sharpie lying around you could put it to use by detailing the seams on certain parts of your Gundam.

(My sister walked into the room as I finished that last sentence and said "Gundam! You give me Gum-Gum!" :D)


As someone who is very new to Gunpla the only bit of advice I can give you is don't be overwhelmed by the instructions. At first it'll seem like gibberish but once you figure out the Spruce letter/Part number code it'll be a breeze. Also don't breathe into the mouth to make it come to life because a life will be lost in it's place. (Lets see who gets that one)


Usually, I just twist all of them off and when a part is needed, I just find it in the pile. LEGO style, basically.


You can do that but keep in mind that parts that look the same aren't and are meant for the right leg only for example. The one bad thing about the instructions is that they don't show enough detail of the part so you're 100% certain of what it is.
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Re: American Era Gundam Toy Discussion

Postby Badass Grimlock » Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:09 pm

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Sackjack wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Sackjack wrote:
Convotron wrote:Actually, experience with traditional model kits is great. Gundam model kits, at least the ones made within the last 20 years or so, are snap assembly model kits. They're straight forward as far as the build process as they don't require glue/cement. Also, the more current model kits have colour molded plastic parts so you don't even have to paint the model if you don't want to. Stickers are usually included to detail the model kit.

So you shouldn't have any terrible problems working on Gundam model kits(aka gunpla). They're very "user friendly". Just take your time with the first kit or two to get a feel for them and you'll be fine.

The best kits to work on in the beginning in my opinion are the High Grade model kits, which come in two basic scale varieties(1/144 and 1/100). They're inexpensive and are good for "learning the ropes" of gunpla. They're also well detailed and look great as straight build models(obviously they'll look better if you give them your own paint job).

There's some information in this thread as far as gunpla tips but there's a plethora of great info at various web sites. Searching for "gunpla gundam model kits faq tutorial" and so on will get you a lot of comprehensive guides to gunpla.


Awesome! Hopefully I'll have a good time building my "1/144 Scale Z'Gok Mass Production Type"! I've also heard if you have a super-thin Sharpie lying around you could put it to use by detailing the seams on certain parts of your Gundam.

(My sister walked into the room as I finished that last sentence and said "Gundam! You give me Gum-Gum!" :D)


As someone who is very new to Gunpla the only bit of advice I can give you is don't be overwhelmed by the instructions. At first it'll seem like gibberish but once you figure out the Spruce letter/Part number code it'll be a breeze. Also don't breathe into the mouth to make it come to life because a life will be lost in it's place. (Lets see who gets that one)


Usually, I just twist all of them off and when a part is needed, I just find it in the pile. LEGO style, basically.


You can do that but keep in mind that parts that look the same aren't and are meant for the right leg only for example. The one bad thing about the instructions is that they don't show enough detail of the part so you're 100% certain of what it is.


Alright, I'll take your word for it.

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Re: American Era Gundam Toy Discussion

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:35 pm

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I just got my 1/144 scale 0 Gundam today. I'll build it when I get home from my friends wedding. Kinda of a spoiler on the box with who piloted it; Numbers should've known.
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Re: American Era Gundam Toy Discussion

Postby pt206 » Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:29 am

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I've recently ordered my first Perfect Grade model kit, the GAT-X105 Strike Gundam.


Grats. Love the PG Strike. You going to pick up the Skygrasper & Aile Striker for it?
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Re: American Era Gundam Toy Discussion

Postby Badass Grimlock » Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:42 am

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Convotron wrote:Image

I've recently ordered my first Perfect Grade model kit, the GAT-X105 Strike Gundam.


Grats. Love the PG Strike. You going to pick up the Skygrasper & Aile Striker for it?


Ohh man, that thing looks badass. :shock:
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Re: American Era Gundam Toy Discussion

Postby Jesterhead » Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:01 am

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Way back in the beginning of this thread I mentioned how much I wanted the G.F.F. Plan303e Deep Striler. I finally got around to ordering it a little while ago, and I gotta say wow! The box is about 12"x12"x12"(which is HUGE for a 1/144th pre built Gundam) and is FULL of parts. There is about seven trays and 100+ pieces to swap out. This set can be configured into 4 different MS, S Gundam, ex-S Gundam, ex-S Gundam [bst], and the Deep Striker. In the Deep Striker configuration, it barely fits in my Ikea Detolf case. It was around the price of a PG kit, but well worth every penny imo.

I'll try to post some pics tomorrow!
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Re: American Era Gundam Toy Discussion

Postby Gutter Bunny » Fri Jul 16, 2010 1:03 pm

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Do want. The only one im not sold on is Raphael. I'm sure all of that head kibble turns into armor ala virtue/seravee...but cmon, it just looks dumb stacked on his head.

The wife is already getting on my ass about the amount of kits i have sitting around waiting to be built. I think she might actually kill me after these and the 1/100 00's.





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Re: American Era Gundam Toy Discussion

Postby Convotron » Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:30 pm

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pt206 wrote:Grats. Love the PG Strike. You going to pick up the Skygrasper & Aile Striker for it?


You better believe it. :)

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I just got my 1/144 scale 0 Gundam today. I'll build it when I get home from my friends wedding. Kinda of a spoiler on the box with who piloted it; Numbers should've known.


The HG 0 Gundam was one of my first kits. I really like the design because of the homage to the RX-78-2.

Jesterhead wrote:Way back in the beginning of this thread I mentioned how much I wanted the G.F.F. Plan303e Deep Striler. I finally got around to ordering it a little while ago, and I gotta say wow! The box is about 12"x12"x12"(which is HUGE for a 1/144th pre built Gundam) and is FULL of parts. There is about seven trays and 100+ pieces to swap out. This set can be configured into 4 different MS, S Gundam, ex-S Gundam, ex-S Gundam [bst], and the Deep Striker. In the Deep Striker configuration, it barely fits in my Ikea Detolf case. It was around the price of a PG kit, but well worth every penny imo.

I'll try to post some pics tomorrow!


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Re: American Era Gundam Toy Discussion

Postby OptimusN1701 » Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:34 pm

Hey there. I've got a couple of questions for you pros.


I built my first master grade a few weeks ago, the Zeta 2.0. The problem I'm having is that the folding handle on the beam rifle is loose, and in certain poses, the rifle will dip downwards. Any ideas of what I can do to fix this?


I got and started building the GM Kai ground deployment colors, and have noticed that the visor/front camera piece is clear instead of the translucent green that it is in the pictures. I've never painted models before, so I don't know if they make clear green paint or not.

And has anybody else bought the Full Armor Gundam? I got that in the mail yesterday, and just looking through the box, it looks like quite the undertaking...
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Re: American Era Gundam Toy Discussion

Postby Gutter Bunny » Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:05 pm

OptimusN1701 wrote:Hey there. I've got a couple of questions for you pros.

I've never painted models before, so I don't know if they make clear green paint or not.



they do. Or there are a number of methods you can use to make your own by using a transparant base or coloring future floor polish. I've never tried the latter two but have heard of them being successful.

OptimusN1701 wrote:I built my first master grade a few weeks ago, the Zeta 2.0. The problem I'm having is that the folding handle on the beam rifle is loose, and in certain poses, the rifle will dip downwards. Any ideas of what I can do to fix this?


I can't picture the particular rifle, however if it just a loose joint, you may be able to remedy it by applying clear nail polish to parts of the joint. I have also heard that portions of kneadable eraser can also be used. Again, I have not tried that so i'm not confident in what exactly entails. Whatever method you choose, the general purpose is to give resistance to the moving portion. Hopefully that helps.
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Re: American Era Gundam Toy Discussion

Postby Convotron » Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:55 am

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OptimusN1701 wrote:Hey there. I've got a couple of questions for you pros.


I built my first master grade a few weeks ago, the Zeta 2.0. The problem I'm having is that the folding handle on the beam rifle is loose, and in certain poses, the rifle will dip downwards. Any ideas of what I can do to fix this?


I got and started building the GM Kai ground deployment colors, and have noticed that the visor/front camera piece is clear instead of the translucent green that it is in the pictures. I've never painted models before, so I don't know if they make clear green paint or not.

And has anybody else bought the Full Armor Gundam? I got that in the mail yesterday, and just looking through the box, it looks like quite the undertaking...


I haven't built the MG Zeta v2.0 yet so I don't know if the dipping issue is inherent to the kit or if it may be just something you could fix by trying what Gutterbunny suggested.

Tamiya produces clear acrylic paints, which are easy to use. If you ever want to try using coloured Future Floor Polish, I suggest you first educate yourself a bit at this link:

http://swannysmodels.com/TheCompleteFuture.html

The reason is that Future Floor Polish goes by many names, depending on where you are located in the world.

I haven't bought the MG FA Gundam but I have the MG RX-78-2 v2.0, which the FA Gundam kit basically is but with extra parts for the FA components. If you've built the MG Zeta v2.0, the MG FA Gundam should be no problem as the MG RX-78-2 v2.0 is a straight forward kit.
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Re: American Era Gundam Toy Discussion

Postby Jesterhead » Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:04 am

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All Bandai kits are pretty easy. The peices need minimal prep work before assembling. Just clip them outta the runners and clean them up. In my experiences with Bandai kits, any peice which doesn't fit "quite right" is an easy fix. Compare this to a resin kit of the HMCS Haida I've been building since the fall, which requires removing the huge amount of flashing/pouring plug, sanding, hole filling, and priming, Bandai kits are a breeze to assemble. More impressive MG kits just take more time, not more skill. Follow the instructions and any Bandai kit will go together smoothly.

Tamiya clear paints over a silver metallic paint makes great Gundam eyes and lenses, since we're on the subject!
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Re: American Era Gundam Toy Discussion

Postby Gutter Bunny » Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:19 am

Jesterhead wrote:Tamiya clear paints over a silver metallic paint makes great Gundam eyes and lenses, since we're on the subject!


I just wanted to echo that for emphasis.

I haven't built my zeta yet. However, after looking at some galleries online, I'm guessing you are talking about the handle of the smaller rifle which appears to fold toward the barrel. I'd think either option that I listed before would successfully solve your issue, however given the small space to work with-the nail polish technique may be easier.

I'm not sure where i even picked up the eraser tip, as i was unable to find anymore information on it when I looked. If you've never used it, its basically sillyputty so you can use your imagination on how it could help.

If neither of those options work for you, you may try posting your question in one of the kitbash forums-even though it's a gundam and not a TF we have MANY talented artists that could offer infallible advice.
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Re: American Era Gundam Toy Discussion

Postby OptimusN1701 » Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:28 pm

Thanks for all the advice guys! :D

Yea Gutter Bunny, it is the smaller rifle with the forward-folding handle. I'm just going to swipe some of my mom's clear nail polish the next chance I get.

I'm going to have to see if some of the local hobby shops have Tamiya paint for the GM Kai. I hate the way the rifle and beam spray gun fit in this model's hands, sabers fit great though. I may end up looking into these resin hands I've seen online once I get more familiar with painting.

And does anyone know a good place to get Gundam markers online? I want to try to cover up where the exacto knife cut the pieces off of the runners, and it's fairly noticeable on with the dark green pieces.
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Re: American Era Gundam Toy Discussion

Postby Gutter Bunny » Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:38 pm

OptimusN1701 wrote:And does anyone know a good place to get Gundam markers online? I want to try to cover up where the exacto knife cut the pieces off of the runners, and it's fairly noticeable on with the dark green pieces.



I would assume almost any online retailer that carries gundams will carry the markers.

I would have to check to be sure. HLJ will get you started. In my opinion paint will always look better.
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Re: American Era Gundam Toy Discussion

Postby Convotron » Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:37 pm

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Jesterhead wrote:All Bandai kits are pretty easy. The peices need minimal prep work before assembling. Just clip them outta the runners and clean them up. In my experiences with Bandai kits, any peice which doesn't fit "quite right" is an easy fix. Compare this to a resin kit of the HMCS Haida I've been building since the fall, which requires removing the huge amount of flashing/pouring plug, sanding, hole filling, and priming, Bandai kits are a breeze to assemble. More impressive MG kits just take more time, not more skill. Follow the instructions and any Bandai kit will go together smoothly.


True, it doesn't take great skill to assemble or build Bandai's snap assembly model kits but that's by design. Unlike resin model kits, gunpla and other snap assembly model kits are approachable by a wide variety of people with varying levels of model kit skill and experience, whether it's a straight build for the novice or an extensive custom job by a skilled modeler.

Model kits, regardless of type, are canvases for modelers to elevate to the next level using creativity and ingenuity. There's nothing stopping a modeler from going through the process priming, painting, and extensively customizing a gunpla kit. Many skilled modelers scratch build custom joints and sculpt new parts for gunpla just as they would for typical resin model kits.

One good thing about Bandai's kits, though, is that the manufacturing process is superior to most other model kit companies that I'm aware of, which means there's no need to clean excessive flashing, no need to fill in defects like air bubbles in parts, or basically do extra work to correct inferior manufacturing.

Also, the higher quality model kit products like Gundam High Grade, Master Grade, and Perfect Grade kits, offer design and engineering that allow great posing functionality. They're like a hybrid of action figures and model kits.

OptimusN1701 wrote:And does anyone know a good place to get Gundam markers online? I want to try to cover up where the exacto knife cut the pieces off of the runners, and it's fairly noticeable on with the dark green pieces.


You may find it difficult to match Gundam marker paint colours to the colours of the plastic of your models at times. It may take more work but painting the model will offer a uniform appearance.

As an alternative, you could consider removing the model kit pieces from the runner by using some sort of cutter/clipper/nipper and rather than cutting flush to the model kit piece, cut the plastic sprue close to the model kit piece. You'll have a nub remaining, which you can file and sand down to remove. It's more time consuming but you should be able to avoid the white stress mark you've been seeing on your model kits so far. You will have scuff marks from the sanding and filing but you can remedy that by using a clear topcoat, which comes in flat/matte or gloss finishes. In my experience, flat topcoat works best and has removed the appearance of severe scuffing from sanding.

I don't do this anymore as I prefer to paint model kits so the scuff marks aren't a factor after priming before painting. It's something you can try if you want to avoid fully painting a model.
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Re: American Era Gundam Toy Discussion

Postby Jesterhead » Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:31 am

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I agree with Convotron, a flat topcoat will cover alot in minor imperfections. The only MS I used a gloss topcoat on was my hotrod red Sinanju, which looks prett nice, pretty much a mirror finish haha.

I usually nip all my peices off the runners, and clean them up with a knife/file/emery board. I alway assemble my Gundam so I know exactly what pieces fit where, and which place don't need to be painted perfect. After the model is built, I disassemble it and catagorize the parts for priming and painting. I take this time to also fill any gaps I noticed while the model was assembled without paint and fix and major imperfections. Then I move on to spraying the peices with color. I alway apply my decals befor the topcoat goes on so I get a uniform finish all around.
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Re: American Era Gundam Toy Discussion

Postby Convotron » Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:46 pm

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The Sinanju is one of the few Mobile Suit designs that I think looks better with a gloss finish than a matte finish. Incidentally, the teaser for episode 2 of Gundam Unicorn has gotten me more eager for the HGUC Sinanju's release.
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Re: American Era Gundam Toy Discussion

Postby Convotron » Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:47 pm

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The Sinanju is one of the few Mobile Suit designs that I think looks better with a gloss finish than a matte finish. Incidentally, the teaser for episode 2 of Gundam Unicorn has gotten me more eager for the HGUC Sinanju's release.
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Re: American Era Gundam Toy Discussion

Postby Jesterhead » Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:54 pm

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I'm really getting into Gundam Unicorn, although I can't find a translated version of the novel, hopefully the popularity of the OVAs will spur a group to do them. I just need a MG Geara Zulu, and a MG Kshatriya (price be damned!) and I'll be all set. Hopefully they were using the HGUC Kshatriya as a testbed for the MG release. If not, I'll have to drop $200+ on the G-system 1/100th Kshatriya resin kit.
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Re: American Era Gundam Toy Discussion

Postby Convotron » Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:36 pm

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The ReZEL is getting a MG kit so that's one step closer to us seeing the Kshatriya get into the MG line too.

Considering that the MG The O kit is 12,600 yen or basically $140+ USD at current exchange rates, I can imagine a MG Kshatriya kit going for at least that much and likely quite a bit more. Either way, a 1/100 scale Kshatriya will cost a pretty penny!

Are you referring to the NeoGrade 1/100 Kshatriya? G-System only lists a 1/72 Kshatriya kit, which has a pre-order price of $556 while the NeoGrade 1/100 kit is about $200.
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