The Energon Pub

[Kurona]

I'm still trying to wrap my mind around how many Transformer characters are swapping out guns for melee weapons. I keep waiting for a scene where Optimus spends 10 minutes, running up towards Megatron, shouting and waving his sword around. And Megatron just blows his head off with his fusion cannon. Cut to close up of Megatron. 'You know, with guns you can kill opponents from a DISTANCE.' They could learn a thing or two from old Indiana Jones.

Or if shooting hero Optimus is too much, have Megatron just take flight, then show Optimus jumping up and down, swiping at empty air with his little sword. 'Hey, no fair! Come back here!'

They'll just do it like Beast Wars Season 2. Where even if your weapon is essentially a Pizza Cutter, it still somehow shoots lasers!

[Microraptor]

I'm still trying to wrap my mind around how many Transformer characters are swapping out guns for melee weapons. I keep waiting for a scene where Optimus spends 10 minutes, running up towards Megatron, shouting and waving his sword around. And Megatron just blows his head off with his fusion cannon. Cut to close up of Megatron. 'You know, with guns you can kill opponents from a DISTANCE.' They could learn a thing or two from old Indiana Jones.

Or if shooting hero Optimus is too much, have Megatron just take flight, then show Optimus jumping up and down, swiping at empty air with his little sword. 'Hey, no fair! Come back here!'

They'll just do it like Beast Wars Season 2. Where even if your weapon is essentially a Pizza Cutter, it still somehow shoots lasers!

With Beast Wars it was a violence concern. But let's be real here, melee weapons have been prevalent in this franchise since the beginning. Sherman Dam anyone?

[RAR]

I think I will take up that convention of using blue text and deploy some sarcasm here :

Isn't it wonderful how they make each size so amply stocked with Bumblebee & Optimus Prime toys to buy - they've never done that before now have they.

[william-james88]

I will not be newsing this because the source is no different than if anyone of us were to write a radom list like this, but I will still post it here just i case it turns out legit and we can look back on it:

[Stuartmaximus]

How the f can Cogman be a repaint? coz he's supposed to turn into an Aston Martin & we haven't had an Aston Martin transformer before.

So! we ARE getting Warpath(which may or may not be the bot in the trailers with treads on his shoulders + hopefully he'll be the WW1 tank)

[Bumblebee21]

How the f can Cogman be a repaint? coz he's supposed to turn into an Aston Martin & we haven't had an Aston Martin transformer before.

So! we ARE getting Warpath(which may or may not be the bot in the trailers with treads on his shoulders + hopefully he'll be the WW1 tank)

where do you see cogman as a repaint

[Stuartmaximus]

How the f can Cogman be a repaint? coz he's supposed to turn into an Aston Martin & we haven't had an Aston Martin transformer before.

So! we ARE getting Warpath(which may or may not be the bot in the trailers with treads on his shoulders + hopefully he'll be the WW1 tank)

where do you see cogman as a repaint

No! Cogman's name is on that list of TLK repaints



Ooops...sorry...misread that! he's under NEW MOLDS

[Bumblebee21]

How the f can Cogman be a repaint? coz he's supposed to turn into an Aston Martin & we haven't had an Aston Martin transformer before.

So! we ARE getting Warpath(which may or may not be the bot in the trailers with treads on his shoulders + hopefully he'll be the WW1 tank)

where do you see cogman as a repaint

No! Cogman's name is on that list of TLK repaints

hes on the list is on the name of new molds

[Stuartmaximus]

How the f can Cogman be a repaint? coz he's supposed to turn into an Aston Martin & we haven't had an Aston Martin transformer before.

So! we ARE getting Warpath(which may or may not be the bot in the trailers with treads on his shoulders + hopefully he'll be the WW1 tank)

where do you see cogman as a repaint

No! Cogman's name is on that list of TLK repaints

hes on the list is on the name of new molds

Aye pal, my mistake, i added that above

i wonder what class size Cogman will be? + it's cool that we're getting our first Aston Martin transformer & he's supposed to be a headmaster

[Kurona]

I feel like doubting that on the basis that the only characters listed just so happen to be ones that are confirmed for the movie or are heavy rumours circulating around the fanbase.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I'm inclined to doubt a lot as well. I swear, if they make Hot Rod a Lockdown remold, I'm done with most of the toys. I have that mold as DotM Roadbuster and AoE Lockdown. I've had it enough. 3 movies with the same mold? No, give me something original, or at least more original

[Overcracker]

I'm inclined to doubt a lot as well. I swear, if they make Hot Rod a Lockdown remold, I'm done with most of the toys. I have that mold as DotM Roadbuster and AoE Lockdown. I've had it enough. 3 movies with the same mold? No, give me something original, or at least more original

Wait, I'm confused.

How is this:


The same mold as this?


I guess they may be similar, but there are only so many ways to turn a car into a humanoid robot.

[william-james88]

He just finds them similar but they arent the same mold in any way. They just have a similar transformation scheme and he's tired of it.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

He just finds them similar but they arent the same mold in any way. They just have a similar transformation scheme and he's tired of it.

Exactly. I'm not a huge fan of the transformation because of the amount of kibble and the fact that the mold feels smaller and lighter than other deluxes. Plus, if they would do it, that would make a very similar toy for 3 straight movies for 3 different characters. That bores me a lot

[Overcracker]

He just finds them similar but they arent the same mold in any way. They just have a similar transformation scheme and he's tired of it.

Exactly. I'm not a huge fan of the transformation because of the amount of kibble and the fact that the mold feels smaller and lighter than other deluxes. Plus, if they would do it, that would make a very similar toy for 3 straight movies for 3 different characters. That bores me a lot

I can understand that, and said as much, they are similar, but again there are only so many ways you can turn a car into a humanoid.

Most car into robot transformations end up feeling similar. I'm not saying its bad you're tired, I just don't see how its possible to make it feel all that different from an engineering standpoint.

Its possible you are just burnt out on movie aesthetic and I can understand that perfectly.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

He just finds them similar but they arent the same mold in any way. They just have a similar transformation scheme and he's tired of it.

Exactly. I'm not a huge fan of the transformation because of the amount of kibble and the fact that the mold feels smaller and lighter than other deluxes. Plus, if they would do it, that would make a very similar toy for 3 straight movies for 3 different characters. That bores me a lot

I can understand that, and said as much, they are similar, but again there are only so many ways you can turn a car into a humanoid.

Most car into robot transformations end up feeling similar. I'm not saying its bad you're tired, I just don't see how its possible to make it feel all that different from an engineering standpoint.

Its possible you are just burnt out on movie aesthetic and I can understand that perfectly.

See, I actually like the movie aesthetic, I just don't like that mold that much. It didn't feel that good on Roadbuster and then they did it again on Lockdown. I'm ok with them making multiple uses of a transformation scheme if it is a good and satisfying one and can do something sort of different each time (each Bumblebee feels different and enjoyable to me despite a similar look) but on a mediocre mold it feels.. exhausting.

I know there's only so many ways to Transform a bot to a car, but look at TR. They've some some really good things with the transformations over there despite similar looks between bots.

It also sort of stings that the same mold could potentially be used for 3 different characters that really deserved better. Roadbuster deserved to have an armored car look that he didn't get as a deluxe; Lockdown was the main villain and got a disappointing small figure, and then Hot Rod is finally making it into the movies and he could be using a mediocre mold as well.

It all feels wrong to me on that mold level.

[Stuartmaximus]

Look! if we're getting submarine, WW1 tank & Aston Martin Headmaster transformer toys(if indeed the sub & tank ARE transformers) then i'm happy enough with those

[william-james88]

I just hate that mold because its so simple. It creates a huge shell, ugly arms and you are stuck with fake kibble for a chest. So yeah, that mold and transformations scheme can stay where it is and if it never comes out again it would still be too soon.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

... not to sound rude, but has 4chan been reliable in that aspect in the past?

[william-james88]

... not to sound rude, but has 4chan been reliable in that aspect in the past?

No clue, but there is a reason this isnt on the front page.

[RAR]

I wonder if they have enough sense to make the Dinobots match their on screen colours this time ?

Though I think releasing them as a gift set makes more sense as other wise you end up as a whole wave of toys that look similar (likely why they changed the colours in the 1st place).

It looks like the sheer amount of repaints in this line is going to be ridiculous.

I hope they make a decent Dragon before they kill the line off or at least do one eventually.

But boy is Hasbro missing a trick here by not making "Legacy" stuff like 1970's Bumblebee as it is the 10th Anniversary after all.

But perhaps Taakra might be Movie Masterpiece mad and make all the Bumblebee (or most of them) so they will make the AOE ones and the 1970's one as well.

I just really want a 1970's one as the Deluxe isn't good enough in my view.

[Evil Eye]

... not to sound rude, but has 4chan been reliable in that aspect in the past?

You'd be surprised. No less reliable than Allspark or TFW2005 in any case. Granted the anonymity means there's potential for bullsh!tting, but it also makes it an ideal place for leaks to spring (because again, anonymity).

I can't speak for /co/ (and mentioning Transformers on /tv/ will get you laughed off the board) but all in all the Transformers threads on /toy/, whilst occasionally mired in dreck, are fairly reasonable on the whole. Certainly better than my experiences on Allspark.

[LOST Cybertronian]

Thanks to Vector Sigma on Facebook, we get a look at a possible prototype for Transformers The Last Knight Megatron. The first image show the upper torso and head of Megatron while the second image shows a jet mode with Megatron's axe stored on top. The current speculation is that this could possibly be a triple changer due to the dragon feet visible at the tip of the wings. Could Megatron be officially revealed at the upcoming New York Toy Fair which starts tomorrow? Stay tuned to Seibertron.com all weekend for your front row seat to all things Transformers revealed at Toy Fair this weekend.

[Kurona]

Well, after Thrilling 30 Springer and Titans Return - and to an extent, Combiner Wars - HasTak seem for the most part to have gotten the hang of Triple Changers granted they're Voyager or bigger. So this could work out very well.

Though I will note that we have now gone with both the Headmaster line featuring Triple Changers and a Decepticon Cybertronian Jet/Dragon Triple Changer without getting Snapdragon.

[Chriphord]

So first off, I love the fact that he has a retractable battle mask. Secondly, it looks like he's gonna be a voyager cause of the pin sizes. Third, it makes me a little hopeful for all of the new TLK molds. AoE was pretty disappointing for the most part due to the abundance of shellformers, and hopefully Megs is an example of what we're in store for this time around.