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News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Fri Nov 13, 2015 2:08 pm

steals_your_goats wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:Man, what is everyone's issue with 'max being a remold or not? I mean, I thought it was dumb to begin with, but as near as I can tell, it uses the thighs and parts of the arms - should probably try to get over it at that point

The only thing he has that are metros are the forearms. Torso is completely different, shoulders are retooled, legs and thighs are retooled. To me they look very different

Exactly, thought we got over this with prime arcee/chromia >:oP

News Credits: 2 · by **Mr Skram** » Fri Nov 13, 2015 2:08 pm

If it is actually a remold I'm just glad they beefed out the torso. Metroplex's dainty waistline is less than appealing.
Though, honestly I was hoping for a leader class Fort Max in the IDW style. Probably because I never had the old toy, so not much allegiance to G1 scale there.

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Fri Nov 13, 2015 2:11 pm

Cobotron wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:should probably try to get over it at that point
Because for a $150-$180 toy I want something I don't already have.

Sorry, but I think we all know deep down that this will have little value for it's pricepoint, if you want a great fort max, you should just get the encore version at bbts >:oP

News Credits: 4841 · by **william-james88** » Fri Nov 13, 2015 2:13 pm

Cobotron wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:should probably try to get over it at that point
Because for a $150-$180 toy I want something I don't already have.

yeah, I think thats the main issue. Dead End and Prowl are only 20$ each at most so a retool to own a seperate character is not that bad. But 150$ is a very different story. Also, its not just the money but the space in this case. It can sometimes be an even greater scarce resource than money for a few of us and I dont know if I want to give that extra space to a retool.

News Credits: 41 · by **Cobotron** » Fri Nov 13, 2015 2:14 pm

Hellscream9999 wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:should probably try to get over it at that point
Because for a $150-$180 toy I want something I don't already have.

Sorry, but I think we all know deep down that this will have little value for it's pricepoint, if you want a great fort max, you should just get the encore version at bbts

Cobotron wrote: If it is a retool, I'd almost rather shell out another 100 bucks for the OG toy.

Covered that already. :-P

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Fri Nov 13, 2015 2:16 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:should probably try to get over it at that point
Because for a $150-$180 toy I want something I don't already have.

yeah, I think thats the main issue. Dead End and Prowl are only 20$ each at most so a retool to own a seperate character is not that bad. But 150$ is a very different story. Also, its not just the money but the space in this case. It can sometimes be an even greater scarce resource than money for a few of us and I dont know if I want to give that extra space to a retool.

Indeed, but, I thought we were over this, if every part looks different, then is it even a remold in anything but name? I think we should shelve the condemning until pictures with actual resolution come out, and just be happy 'Big Fort Max' is back

News Credits: 3 · by **Starsaber468** » Fri Nov 13, 2015 2:18 pm

Wait it kinda seems fishy that this isn't what its supposed to be remenber the idw fort maximus reveal something makes me think that this COULD be fake (like that MP-Arcee) but time will show

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Fri Nov 13, 2015 2:19 pm

Cobotron wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:should probably try to get over it at that point
Because for a $150-$180 toy I want something I don't already have.

Sorry, but I think we all know deep down that this will have little value for it's pricepoint, if you want a great fort max, you should just get the encore version at bbts

Cobotron wrote: If it is a retool, I'd almost rather shell out another 100 bucks for the OG toy.
Covered that already.

I say go that route then, it'll be a far better experience than this will ever be; besides with as cheap a plastic as hasbro's using nowadays, he may just crumble under his own weight now :roll:

News Credits: 2 · by **Mr Skram** » Fri Nov 13, 2015 2:22 pm

Starsaber468 wrote:Wait it kinda seems fishy that this isn't what its supposed to be remenber the idw fort maximus reveal something makes me think that this COULD be fake (like that MP-Arcee) but time will show

Maybe they'll make both bodies for the headmaster to plug into. IDW and city size.

News Credits: 13 · by **steals_your_goats** » Fri Nov 13, 2015 2:24 pm

Hellscream9999 wrote:
I say go that route then, it'll be a far better experience than this will ever be; besides with as cheap a plastic as hasbro's using nowadays, he may just crumble under his own weight now

Didn't you yourself JUST say above that we should hold our judgement until we see something more official?

hypocrite.....

News Credits: 3 · by **Starsaber468** » Fri Nov 13, 2015 2:25 pm

Mr Skram wrote:
Starsaber468 wrote:Wait it kinda seems fishy that this isn't what its supposed to be remenber the idw fort maximus reveal something makes me think that this COULD be fake (like that MP-Arcee) but time will show

Maybe they'll make both bodies for the headmaster to plug into. IDW and city size.

Remember the promotion pictures ot showed the coty one the actual titan class figure...

by **LE0KING** » Fri Nov 13, 2015 2:26 pm

I'm probably going to get alot of hate for this but oh well.
I haven't been this disappointed in a reveal since generations Arcee. Looking at the early line art I was hoping that this would be along the lines of PE Warden (but you know, one I could afford). IDW Max is one of my favorite characters and they got my hopes up. Instead we get another giant G1 bot that I don't have room for. I passed on Metroplex and I'll pass on this one. I'm glad you guys are happy, but I'm disappointed.

News Credits: 2 · by **Mr Skram** » Fri Nov 13, 2015 2:27 pm

Starsaber468 wrote:
Mr Skram wrote:
Starsaber468 wrote:Wait it kinda seems fishy that this isn't what its supposed to be remenber the idw fort maximus reveal something makes me think that this COULD be fake (like that MP-Arcee) but time will show

Maybe they'll make both bodies for the headmaster to plug into. IDW and city size.

Remember the promotion pictures ot showed the coty one the actual titan class figure...

Yeah, I just looked it up. Whoops.

News Credits: 15 · by **galvatron00** » Fri Nov 13, 2015 2:27 pm

Hooray Fortress Maximus!

News Credits: 4841 · by **william-james88** » Fri Nov 13, 2015 2:32 pm

Hellscream9999 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:should probably try to get over it at that point
Because for a $150-$180 toy I want something I don't already have.

yeah, I think thats the main issue. Dead End and Prowl are only 20$ each at most so a retool to own a seperate character is not that bad. But 150$ is a very different story. Also, its not just the money but the space in this case. It can sometimes be an even greater scarce resource than money for a few of us and I dont know if I want to give that extra space to a retool.

Indeed, but, I thought we were over this, if every part looks different, then is it even a remold in anything but name? I think we should shelve the condemning until pictures with actual resolution come out, and just be happy 'Big Fort Max' is back

Yes it is still a remold. And in this case not every part is different at all. Its the same basic shape and proportions. The really new stuff is the head, torso and shins.

And I was never over this. I have said quite a few times that my true joy in this hobby is transforming a figure and getting to witness the wit of the engineering. Every retool denies me this pleasure. Transforming it the first time no longer has that sense of discovery, or at least not at the same level. I wasnt fond of the aerialbots all transforming the same way but I sucked it up because they are all very similar planes with similar functions and their g1 toys all transform the same way too. But these are two different characters with different transformations and even from totally different eras. And worse they are both a lot of money. I get how redecos work when its appropriate but its not here. I thought the idea of Hasbro limiting it to 1 titan per year was so that at least it could be a totally new toy ground up, but this really feels cheap on their behalf.

So there you go, this is my stance on the matter.

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Fri Nov 13, 2015 2:36 pm

steals_your_goats wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
I say go that route then, it'll be a far better experience than this will ever be; besides with as cheap a plastic as hasbro's using nowadays, he may just crumble under his own weight now

Didn't you yourself JUST say above that we should hold our judgement until we see something more official?

hypocrite.....

I am withholding my judgement of the figure, I thought it was common knowledge that hasbro's using thin, garbage plastic, and considering my UM couldn't even transform for it - especially considering their plastic quality won't have increased by then, and judging by the extreme hollowness/thinness of the tw figres', it isn't a difficult logic gap to cross >:oP

News Credits: 3 · by **DedicatedGhostArt** » Fri Nov 13, 2015 2:41 pm

Looks like this guy will be about Metroplex-sized? :-?

News Credits: 4841 · by **william-james88** » Fri Nov 13, 2015 2:49 pm

SillySpringer wrote:Looks like this guy will be about Metroplex-sized?

Of course he will, he's a retool.

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Fri Nov 13, 2015 2:53 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:should probably try to get over it at that point
Because for a $150-$180 toy I want something I don't already have.

yeah, I think thats the main issue. Dead End and Prowl are only 20$ each at most so a retool to own a seperate character is not that bad. But 150$ is a very different story. Also, its not just the money but the space in this case. It can sometimes be an even greater scarce resource than money for a few of us and I dont know if I want to give that extra space to a retool.

Indeed, but, I thought we were over this, if every part looks different, then is it even a remold in anything but name? I think we should shelve the condemning until pictures with actual resolution come out, and just be happy 'Big Fort Max' is back

Yes it is still a remold. And in this case not every part is different at all. Its the same basic shape and proportions. The really new stuff is the head, torso and shins.

And I was never over this. I have said quite a few times that my true joy in this hobby is transforming a figure and getting to witness the wit of the engineering. Every retool denies me this pleasure. Transforming it the first time no longer has that sense of discovery, or at least not at the same level. I wasnt fond of the aerialbots all transforming the same way but I sucked it up because they are all very similar planes with similar functions and their g1 toys all transform the same way too. But these are two different characters with different transformations and even from totally different eras. And worse they are both a lot of money. I get how redecos work when its appropriate but its not here. I thought the idea of Hasbro limiting it to 1 titan per year was so that at least it could be a totally new toy ground up, but this really feels cheap on their behalf.

So there you go, this is my stance on the matter.

I get ya, though I want to see some pics of the 'base' mode, as I think hasbro is going to be doing something cool with the 'base-building system', maybe he'll combine with blaster to form a chunky city, then you can attach soundwave and company to make a super giant base?

News Credits: 3 · by **DedicatedGhostArt** » Fri Nov 13, 2015 2:55 pm

william-james88 wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:Looks like this guy will be about Metroplex-sized?

Of course he will, he's a retool.

It took me a bit to figure out he was, and by the time I discovered it you had already responded. :lol:

On one hand I'm disappointed, but on the other hand this should give me another chance to get a hopefully improved version of Metroplex, since I didn't get the original. Here's hoping the fixed the leg ratchets and added a new base mode. I hope his base modes don't look as cheap as Metroplex's like it looks in this picture. oy.

News Credits: 15 · by **galvatron00** » Fri Nov 13, 2015 2:55 pm

william-james88 wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:Looks like this guy will be about Metroplex-sized?
Of course he will, he's a retool.

I think "TL, DR" was supposed to be in there somewhere.. :lol:

News Credits: 3 · by **DedicatedGhostArt** » Fri Nov 13, 2015 2:56 pm

itscramtastic wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:Looks like this guy will be about Metroplex-sized?
Of course he will, he's a retool.
I think "TL, DR" was supposed to be in there somewhere..

?

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Fri Nov 13, 2015 2:56 pm

Hellscream9999 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:should probably try to get over it at that point
Because for a $150-$180 toy I want something I don't already have.

yeah, I think thats the main issue. Dead End and Prowl are only 20$ each at most so a retool to own a seperate character is not that bad. But 150$ is a very different story. Also, its not just the money but the space in this case. It can sometimes be an even greater scarce resource than money for a few of us and I dont know if I want to give that extra space to a retool.

Indeed, but, I thought we were over this, if every part looks different, then is it even a remold in anything but name? I think we should shelve the condemning until pictures with actual resolution come out, and just be happy 'Big Fort Max' is back

Yes it is still a remold. And in this case not every part is different at all. Its the same basic shape and proportions. The really new stuff is the head, torso and shins.

And I was never over this. I have said quite a few times that my true joy in this hobby is transforming a figure and getting to witness the wit of the engineering. Every retool denies me this pleasure. Transforming it the first time no longer has that sense of discovery, or at least not at the same level. I wasnt fond of the aerialbots all transforming the same way but I sucked it up because they are all very similar planes with similar functions and their g1 toys all transform the same way too. But these are two different characters with different transformations and even from totally different eras. And worse they are both a lot of money. I get how redecos work when its appropriate but its not here. I thought the idea of Hasbro limiting it to 1 titan per year was so that at least it could be a totally new toy ground up, but this really feels cheap on their behalf.

So there you go, this is my stance on the matter.

I get ya, though I want to see some pics of the 'base' mode, as I think hasbro is going to be doing something cool with the 'base-building system', maybe he'll combine with blaster to form a chunky city, then you can attach soundwave and company to make a super giant base?

Would be really cool to have that base building ability. That would be awesome!

News Credits: 3 · by **DedicatedGhostArt** » Fri Nov 13, 2015 2:58 pm

If Hasbro comes out with a Titan Wars Trypticon I will be soooooo happy. =P~

News Credits: 13 · by **steals_your_goats** » Fri Nov 13, 2015 2:59 pm

Hellscream9999 wrote:
steals_your_goats wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
I say go that route then, it'll be a far better experience than this will ever be; besides with as cheap a plastic as hasbro's using nowadays, he may just crumble under his own weight now

Didn't you yourself JUST say above that we should hold our judgement until we see something more official?

hypocrite.....

I am withholding my judgement of the figure, I thought it was common knowledge that hasbro's using thin, garbage plastic, and considering my UM couldn't even transform for it - especially considering their plastic quality won't have increased by then, and judging by the extreme hollowness/thinness of the tw figres', it isn't a difficult logic gap to cross

I've never had a problem with the plastic, maybe you shouldn't be so rough with your toys >:oP

and really? Thinness and hollowness of figures that haven't been released yet is a flimsy argument ( pun intended). Especially when that arguably look more solid than the combiner wars figures.