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News Credits: 767 · Sun Mar 02, 2008 11:34 am

OK here goes, due to a sick twist in time and space (called "I don't give a damn about a Plot") all incarnations of "the Doctor", you know doctor who, meet and team up against the doctors of EVIL, who are Doctor Doom, Doctor Octopus, better known as Dock Ock, Doctor Archwhile, Dr Evil and doc Nick.

The rules, no punching below the belt, no Tardis, no army, just the docs and there usual standard equipment, "The Doctors" (from Doctor Who) can use K9 and the sonic screwdriver.

Who wins?

News Credits: 2 · Sun Mar 02, 2008 11:38 am

The sonic screwdriver has the power to out plot-device all other plot-devices, but since Doctor Doom and Doctor Octopus are there they'd probably be able to stomp all over Doctor Who until he runs out of lives.

If it came down to just Doom and Oc, I'd give it to Doctor Octopus, as I think his arms make him the most powerful without any other external forces.

News Credits: 767 · Sun Mar 02, 2008 11:46 am

Tekka wrote:The sonic screwdriver has the power to out plot-device all other plot-devices, but since Doctor Doom and Doctor Octopus are there they'd probably be able to stomp all over Doctor Who until he runs out of lives.

If it came down to just Doom and Oc, I'd give it to Doctor Octopus, as I think his arms make him the most powerful without any other external forces.

You know, that was my original intention od posting Ock vs Doom, but then I thought it would be cooler, and funnier to have it this way.

anyway dock Ock just owns all

News Credits: 3 · Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:01 pm

All the Doctors, they can combine their mental powers (like in the 5 doctors story) to easily overcome the evil doctors.

Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:12 pm

That's sonic screwdriver!

And you said Doctors of Evil and forgot Dr. Evil??? :twisted:

News Credits: 49 · Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:26 pm

I would chock Doom up for the win, he's beaten the snot out of Doc Ock in the Secret Wars in both power and smarts.

But then against the Doctors I think Doom would underestimate them, and they'd use his hubris and arrogance against him to pull out a win.

The Doctors win, with Doom coming in second place.

News Credits: 767 · Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:01 am

Jacoiros wrote:That's sonic screwdriver!

And you said Doctors of Evil and forgot Dr. Evil???

Opps, sorry for that, I'll fix that! :oops:

Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:44 am

DOCTOR MARIO FTW!

Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:52 pm

The Doctor has already (semi-canonically) defeated a Doctor Doom analogue, by simply taking over the powered armour using his sonic screwdriver. Doctor Octopus gets another sonic screwdriver treatment due to his four mechanical arms... essentially you've put two opponents who could both be simultaneously defeated by one Doctor due to a commonly shared weakness (reliance on technology) that the Doctor is known for exploiting.

I haven't got a clue about the other two.

Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:54 pm

EevilJ wrote:The Doctor has already (semi-canonically) defeated a Doctor Doom analogue, by simply taking over the powered armour using his sonic screwdriver. Doctor Octopus gets another sonic screwdriver treatment due to his four mechanical arms... essentially you've put two opponents who could both be simultaneously defeated by one Doctor due to a commonly shared weakness (reliance on technology) that the Doctor is known for exploiting.

I haven't got a clue about the other two.

Except for the fact that the Doctors have been shown previously to not always be able to effect all technology- there's a region the Doctor doesn't regularly defeat hordes of Daleks by waving the sonic screwdriver at them and turning their casing off. Also, that Doom makes fairly regular use of magic.

Mon Mar 03, 2008 2:34 pm

Nuffs wrote:Except for the fact that the Doctors have been shown previously to not always be able to effect all technology- there's a region the Doctor doesn't regularly defeat hordes of Daleks by waving the sonic screwdriver at them and turning their casing off. Also, that Doom makes fairly regular use of magic.

The Doctor has faced, and beaten, opponents whose psionic power was enough to reduce Earth to a burning wasteland. He has also canonically defeated a Doctor Doom analogue (from a more technologically advanced planet than Earth, at that) by simply using using the sonic screwdriver and the rest of his insane levels of intelligence.

The Daleks are a poor example as their technology was specifically built for the purpose of fighting the Doctor. The sonic screwdriver has defeated robot and cyborg foes before with the greatest of ease; The Christmas Invasion and The Runaway Bride stick out as the two main examples.

Mon Mar 03, 2008 2:36 pm

EevilJ wrote:The Doctor has faced, and beaten, opponents whose psionic power was enough to reduce Earth to a burning wasteland. He has also canonically defeated a Doctor Doom analogue (from a more technologically advanced planet than Earth, at that) by simply using using the sonic screwdriver and the rest of his insane levels of intelligence.

The Daleks are a poor example as their technology was specifically built for the purpose of fighting the Doctor. The sonic screwdriver has defeated robot and cyborg foes before with the greatest of ease; The Christmas Invasion and The Runaway Bride stick out as the two main examples.

Doom has faced beings who could smack down Galactus, and stolen their power. Also, more advanced than modern RL Earth is a very different proposition than more advanced than modern Marvel Earth, for reasons that shouldn't really need explaining.

Edit: A being, my bad. That I know of.

Edit 2: I'm not saying that Doom wins, I think the Doctors, with there being so many of them in one place at a time (if Belgium can be averted) most likely take this. It's just likely to be harder than 'waves screwdriver, armor shuts down'.

News Credits: 3 · Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:35 pm

EevilJ wrote:The Daleks are a poor example as their technology was specifically built for the purpose of fighting the Doctor.

Well actually, they were designed to exterminate the Thals....

Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:05 pm

Stormwolf wrote:Well actually, they were designed to exterminate the Thals....

Originally, yes, but that can't be said of the modern iterations, considering the Thals were extinct.

Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:07 pm

Dr Doom is too much for the Doctors without their Tardises or at least one copy of it, as in The Three Doctors.

Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:09 pm

SSJVegeta wrote:Dr Doom is too much for the Doctors without their Tardises or at least one copy of it, as in The Three Doctors.

There are two primary weaknesses to that statement. The first is that there were only two useful Doctors in the Three Doctors, not ten, and the second is that the Doctor has solved at least fourteen problems (six of which were the Master) without the use of a TARDIS.

Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:21 pm

EevilJ wrote:There are two primary weaknesses to that statement. The first is that there were only two useful Doctors in the Three Doctors, not ten, and the second is that the Doctor has solved at least fourteen problems (six of which were the Master) without the use of a TARDIS.

There could be 12 plus another two or three Timelords. Marvel superscience, which Doom is practiced with, is in the same general ballpark as Who superscience.

I am not a Dr Doom fan, but the guy gets things done. I cannot think of a who villain who compares to this guy. He basically wears mid iron man level power armor and can cast reality warping magic at will, and he is a superscientific genius.

You have to give the Doctor's some access to a Tardis to protect themselves. Otherwise Dr Doom will just kill each one as he encounters them. The science plus the magic is too much for the Drs without some tech base to counter.

edited for clarity