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by **Delta82** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:07 am

First-Aid wrote:I've been giving this sequel thing a lot of thought and had some ideas on what they may do with it.

1. The Allspark did initially destroy Megatron's spark, but over time it also regenerated it and merged with him, giving him limited power to create new TF's. The new power is stored in a device in his chest he calls "The Matrix". Once the Autobots discover this, Prime attempts the merger with the remaining shard of the Allspark in his possession. However it fails, forcing them into a direct confrontation for possession of the Matrix.

2. When Megatron followed the Allspark into space, a team of powerful Autobot commandoes- the Dynobots- followed him. They too had problems with the magnetic field of Earth and crashed. They are eventually uncovered by an archeological dig in Utah. Not satisfied scanning the puny vehicles the humans have onsite, they scan into the ground discovered the remains of several dinosaurs and thus are reborn.

3. Scorponok, after his defeat at the hands of the humans, has been in hiding and biding his time. He manages to learn where the 'Cons remains are deposited and eventually links up with Starscream- who has returned with revenge on his mind. The new 'Con commander has brought with some new friends- more than likely the Constructicons- in order to fortify their position on Earth. They rescue and rebuild the damaged 'Cons (who were in fact in stasis lock and not deceased as believed) except Megatron, who Starscream buries in the deep so that he alone may lead. Megs of course comes back to life with the help of the Allspark that has merged with him and the power struggle continues.

4. The "radiation" previously detected by the humans- now called "energon" because of its ability to "energize" inanimate mechanical objects- is identified by Ratchet and a team of human scientists as a form of atom-sized nanomachines. These nanomachines are able to rebuild metal allows by breaking down atoms of any substance and reassembling them into the desired pattern. Ratchet concludes that the Allspark is slowly rebuilding itself, leading to a new race for the Allspark- which is in Sam's possession again; it seems that he had asked for a piece of the Allspark as a souvenir/reminder of the first battle. This also leads to the assumption that Megatron may not be dead.

5. Once the Dyno/Dinobots are reborn, a conflict brews between their leader- Grimlock- and Prime. It seems that Grimlock was passed up for command of the Autobots and he is still nursing a grudge against Optimus. This leads him to a major tactical blunder in a decisive battle, forcing introspective review of himself and his priorities. Grimlock also suffers from speech problems due to a remaining glitch in his system from a previous battle with Megatron.

I think I have too much time on my hands, but I'm curious to hear other thoughts on the topic.

I like your idea for the sequel, except for 1 thing.... The dinobots... I know i've said this before, but ill say it again... Bringing in the dinobots wouldnt be right, and if Bay didnt like the old transformers then hes not gonna put in the dinobots.. Plus just imagine giant robots fighting...then WTF giant robotic dinosaurs rush in?!?!?!?!?! It just wouldnt make sense in the movie, it would be like a Transformers Jurrasic Park.....

News Credits: 3 · by **Barricade** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:34 am

Cinema_Major wrote:One of the writers for Transformers hinted that what happened to Barricade was "robots in disguise"....so theres your hint.

Two theories here........

1. Barricade saved his own ass by hiding and maybe taking a different vehicle mode.

2. Barricade is an autobot spy who had to keep up the appearance for 90% of the movie to convince the decepticons and Frenzy mostly... Maybe Prowl??? Makes sense, Prime said a new discovery lead them to Earth..... and a spy would be a perfect way to find out where the decepticons were headed.

i like #2

by **The Paragon of Virtue** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:54 am

Spark Light wrote:Bay should not direct TF2. He didn't even like the source material after making this movie, he only likes "His" Transformers. That's a very dangerous thing indeed. He said he couldn't sit through he first 10 minutes of the '86 movie - however crap the rest of that movie was, or the rest of G1 movie, the first half hour of that movie was sheer Transformers awesomeness. If you don't get that, you shouldn't be making a movie based on it.

The public seemed to like his Transformers too.

And you misunderstand the "fans can't make the movie" idea. The point is that it's futile to try and listen to fan demands, because there is no unified front on what fans will want. You can't please all the people all the time, and it's impossible to make something all the fans will like.

News Credits: 11 · by **Robinson** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:55 am

The Paragon of Virtue wrote:
Spark Light wrote:Bay should not direct TF2. He didn't even like the source material after making this movie, he only likes "His" Transformers. That's a very dangerous thing indeed. He said he couldn't sit through he first 10 minutes of the '86 movie - however crap the rest of that movie was, or the rest of G1 movie, the first half hour of that movie was sheer Transformers awesomeness. If you don't get that, you shouldn't be making a movie based on it.

The public seemed to like his Transformers too.

And you misunderstand the "fans can't make the movie" idea. The point is that it's futile to try and listen to fan demands, because there is no unified front on what fans will want. You can't please all the people all the time, and it's impossible to make something all the fans will like.

Thank you, thats what I was getting at.

by **Kimmer** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:04 pm

Fang Wolf wrote:I just ask for two things, a decent plot and transformer character development.

we certainly didn't get that in the first one so why would you think he would do that in the next one? he's just going to keep doing what he always does which is make crappy movies with no plot and over the top action sequences that try to mask the fact the characters have no personalities and of course sprinkle in the cliched, retarded and totally unneccesary comedic parts. he never cared about tf's from the very beginning and he definately didn't care what the long time fans said. he always thought that tf's were just "big f'ng" robots" and after seeing the movie that's how he made them out to be so it's not going to change EVER. if there hasn't been an official announcement yet that he IS directing the sequel than i still have some hope.

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News Credits: 23 · by **1337W422102** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:18 pm

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News Credits: 2 · by **First-Aid** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:21 pm

Delta82 wrote: I like your idea for the sequel, except for 1 thing.... The dinobots... I know i've said this before, but ill say it again... Bringing in the dinobots wouldnt be right, and if Bay didnt like the old transformers then hes not gonna put in the dinobots.. Plus just imagine giant robots fighting...then WTF giant robotic dinosaurs rush in?!?!?!?!?! It just wouldnt make sense in the movie, it would be like a Transformers Jurrasic Park.....

I agree on that...That's why I mentioned Dynobots...maybe they DO end up as military vehicles. What I was thinking is that, in order to fight Megatron, these characters would be bigger than normal TF's; because of this, not many vehicles would fit them for alt-modes. That's where I think robotic dinosaurs may come in. You also have to figure in the fact that they are probably the most popular of the "subgroups"; you want a guaranteed success with the fans? Bring in Grimlock and Co. The story would also work with the Aerialbots...in this case, rather than Starscream returning with Constructicons, he returns with the Seekers- a 'Con air force. There is easier access to a wide variety of aircraft as well: Apache's, Blackhawks, F-16's, B-52, F117's, B-2, B-1, AWACS, whatever.

Hey Speilberg, I'm unemployed! :-P

News Credits: 5 · by **decepticonjon** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:23 pm

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you'll hear a knock on your door soon.
:grin:

by **Omega_Supreme** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 2:01 pm

Leaches.. yuck!

by **n_tel_ekt** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 2:44 pm

You think the returning TFs will have the same bot/alt mode they had in the 1st film??? This was my 1st question when I heard the buzz about part2.

On another note, regarding Mike Bay directing part 2... I cant say whether or not another director would have made a better 1st film, but if theres a sequel, I'd prefer Bay that way the feeling of the movies dont change (Example; Harry Potter 2 being all kiddie, part 3 looked delapidated and depressing... Also the 1st 2 Batmans vs. the 2nd 2, and Xmen 2 & 3)... So IMO, keeping the same director helps the fluidity of a series of films... Plus now, Bay has the option of seeing what fans didnt/did like about the film and improve on it... I enjoyed the hell out of the movie... My only request for part 2 is to inlcude more sweeping / wide angle shots of the action.

by **Roddy P** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 3:04 pm

I thought it was a great movie and cant wait for the sequel.

I would like to see more charecter development especially with the cons. and less trash can looking robots especially during the fight scenes.

News Credits: 2 · by **First-Aid** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 3:17 pm

Roddy P wrote:I thought it was a great movie and cant wait for the sequel.

I would like to see more charecter development especially with the cons. and less trash can looking robots especially during the fight scenes.

Actually, that's an interesting point...I would have liked to see more far out shots of the fighting. However, I'd wager that's kind of how they kept the budget low. With a sequel and a larger budget, we should see more of those giant-robot-wrestling and blasting each other scenes like Bonecrusher vs. Optimus in the first one. It also should reduce the human interaction in the movie.

News Credits: 4 · by **Briggs** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 3:51 pm

First-Aid wrote:
Actually, that's an interesting point...I would have liked to see more far out shots of the fighting. However, I'd wager that's kind of how they kept the budget low. With a sequel and a larger budget, we should see more of those giant-robot-wrestling and blasting each other scenes like Bonecrusher vs. Optimus in the first one. It also should reduce the human interaction in the movie.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

by **Omega_Supreme** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 5:54 pm

YEP! I am ABSOLUTELY positive that there budget will be expanded now that they have a total hit on their hands. I hope they use it to flesh out the TF's more.

But... I would hope that they do not "overcrowd" the screen with 5-6 more autobots and 10+ more decepts. I still say it should be 2-3 more autos and at most 4 more decepts. Even if they devoted five mins of screen time to each one we would have what.. about an hour or so before we even get to the whole story of the movie.

by **dabattousai** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 6:02 pm

I hope the sequal will develop the Decepticons this time and more on the Autobots. We got the humans down, just need some more backbone to the robots.

News Credits: 1 · by **Bottom Out** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 6:23 pm

dinobots are not garenteed success with the fans...the fans will like the idea...initially, but the fact that it will be impossible to do them correctly will turn it complety 180º

News Credits: 2 · by **First-Aid** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 6:48 pm

Bottom Out wrote:dinobots are not garenteed success with the fans...the fans will like the idea...initially, but the fact that it will be impossible to do them correctly will turn it complety 180º

Define "Correctly". If they redid the bot modes and alt-modes to be similar to the movie continuity, I'm fine with that. The movie bot modes worked well. As long as they don't make the Dynos too dumb, I think they'd be welcome additions.

by **Crazy Wolf** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 7:24 pm

That's true the dinobots would be a very cool additions.

News Credits: 23 · by **1337W422102** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 7:28 pm

Wouldn't the Dinobots just contradict the whole 'realism' aspect of the movie?

by **Crazy Wolf** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 7:34 pm

No the dinobots would not contradict the whole 'realism' aspect of the movie!!

News Credits: 4 · by **General Magnus** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 7:43 pm

Transformers and realism in the same sentence does not compute.

News Credits: 2 · by **First-Aid** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:05 pm

Jen wrote:No the dinobots would not contradict the whole 'realism' aspect of the movie!!

Not at all; it's a simple matter of them wanting larger alt-modes than were available above ground. They could quite easily scan into the ground. Granted they wouldn't be disguised very well, but they would be powerful. Besides would they know at first that dinosaurs were extinct? not likely...but that's just in theory.