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Doubledealer93 wrote:first pay check im preordering blitzwing and springer.
Mkall wrote:Like the others I've preordered Springer and Blitzwing. I want Storm Razer too, but I refuse to buy him with 2 other figures whom I don't want. I think BBTS is seeing that, hence why they don't seem to be offering Prime Deluxe figures separately right now.
RiddlerJ wrote:Slight trivia. On the old G1 cartoon Blitzwing was the only one to recognize the Quintissons and now all his incarnations are face swappers themselves.
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:Personally, I'd prefer if they didn't include that gimmick. IMO the overall head sculpt almost always suffers when you implement face-swapping--V1 MP Seekers had rather flat faces due to their ability to flip face-plates for different expressions.
While I don't mind it on the MP seekers since it adds display value and character, the faces on Blitzwing are too reminiscent of his TFA incarnation, which IMO, feel very out of place with his G1 design. While we've only seen his normal and "icy" faces, the icy one looks too TFA for my tastes. Also, his normal face has the visor too low, leaving a gap between it and the rim of his "helmet."
In any case, G1 Blitzwing never had this feature, so I personally think it's unnecessary.
That said, maybe the kids will love it. Gotta keep reminding myself it's a kid's toy line, not MP.![]()
TL;DR, not a fan of his 3-face gimmick because the icy face reminds me too much of his TFA incarnation and creates problems with face proportions, and looks out of place on his neo-G1 toy.
william-james88 wrote:So that would also be the case for Predaking, who is also six members.
Arctorro wrote:SKYWARPED_128 wrote:Personally, I'd prefer if they didn't include that gimmick. IMO the overall head sculpt almost always suffers when you implement face-swapping--V1 MP Seekers had rather flat faces due to their ability to flip face-plates for different expressions.
While I don't mind it on the MP seekers since it adds display value and character, the faces on Blitzwing are too reminiscent of his TFA incarnation, which IMO, feel very out of place with his G1 design. While we've only seen his normal and "icy" faces, the icy one looks too TFA for my tastes. Also, his normal face has the visor too low, leaving a gap between it and the rim of his "helmet."
In any case, G1 Blitzwing never had this feature, so I personally think it's unnecessary.
That said, maybe the kids will love it. Gotta keep reminding myself it's a kid's toy line, not MP.![]()
TL;DR, not a fan of his 3-face gimmick because the icy face reminds me too much of his TFA incarnation and creates problems with face proportions, and looks out of place on his neo-G1 toy.
I'm not a kid and I love both this 3 face gimmick and Animated!
Btw, G1 has nothing to do with this toy, are you channeling X?![]()
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:Who's X?![]()
I never said you had to be a kid to enjoy these gimmicks, just that I personally prefer a single head sculpt and pointed out the reasons why.
And how does G1 not have anything to do with the toy? It's a triple-changer that transforms into a tank and jet, and was based on his G1 design for the original toy and in the cartoon in terms of color and alt modes.
Admittedly the same can be said for TFA's Blitzwing too, but in terms of aesthetics, this toy homages the more traditional G1 look than the more abstract TFA style.
I love Animated too, don't let the comments fool you.I just don't like having certain TFA elements mixed in with neo-G1 designs, at least those where it might look out of place, like that canceled Brawn figure with a G1-esque head stuck on a TF Prime voyager Bulkhead, or Cliff's WFC head stuck onto TF Prime FE Cliffjumper.
In any case, the post is kind of obsolete, since I got a better look at the "icy" face RACast posted on another thread. Looks nothing like the TFA face and is very G1-esque, not to mention awesome.
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:Arctorro wrote:SKYWARPED_128 wrote:Personally, I'd prefer if they didn't include that gimmick. IMO the overall head sculpt almost always suffers when you implement face-swapping--V1 MP Seekers had rather flat faces due to their ability to flip face-plates for different expressions.
While I don't mind it on the MP seekers since it adds display value and character, the faces on Blitzwing are too reminiscent of his TFA incarnation, which IMO, feel very out of place with his G1 design. While we've only seen his normal and "icy" faces, the icy one looks too TFA for my tastes. Also, his normal face has the visor too low, leaving a gap between it and the rim of his "helmet."
In any case, G1 Blitzwing never had this feature, so I personally think it's unnecessary.
That said, maybe the kids will love it. Gotta keep reminding myself it's a kid's toy line, not MP.![]()
TL;DR, not a fan of his 3-face gimmick because the icy face reminds me too much of his TFA incarnation and creates problems with face proportions, and looks out of place on his neo-G1 toy.
I'm not a kid and I love both this 3 face gimmick and Animated!
Btw, G1 has nothing to do with this toy, are you channeling X?![]()
Who's X?![]()
I never said you had to be a kid to enjoy these gimmicks, just that I personally prefer a single head sculpt and pointed out the reasons why.
And how does G1 not have anything to do with the toy? It's a triple-changer that transforms into a tank and jet, and was based on his G1 design for the original toy and in the cartoon in terms of color and alt modes.
Admittedly the same can be said for TFA's Blitzwing too, but in terms of aesthetics, this toy homages the more traditional G1 look than the more abstract TFA style.
I love Animated too, don't let the comments fool you.I just don't like having certain TFA elements mixed in with neo-G1 designs, at least those where it might look out of place, like that canceled Brawn figure with a G1-esque head stuck on a TF Prime voyager Bulkhead, or Cliff's WFC head stuck onto TF Prime FE Cliffjumper.
In any case, the post is kind of obsolete, since I got a better look at the "icy" face RACast posted on another thread. Looks nothing like the TFA face and is very G1-esque, not to mention awesome.
william-james88 wrote:So that would also be the case for Predaking, who is also six members.
Arctorro wrote:1) Rated X, the obsessive compulsive G1 fan![]()
Arctorro wrote:2) Lots of people like to compare new toys to G1 and are often disappointed. Problem is that Hasbro clearly isn't all that interested in G1 any more so their throw backs to old characters are never going to be very accurate. There will always be something that doesn't fit. In this case, the homeage to Animated Blitzwing.
RAcast wrote:In any case, I'm glad you took a better look at the pictures.
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:Arctorro wrote:2) Lots of people like to compare new toys to G1 and are often disappointed. Problem is that Hasbro clearly isn't all that interested in G1 any more so their throw backs to old characters are never going to be very accurate. There will always be something that doesn't fit. In this case, the homeage to Animated Blitzwing.
You've got a point there. Honestly, the only problem I had with the gimmick was that from the earlier pics it looked too close to TFA Blitzwing, but it wasn't upon close inspection. That, and the visor issue on his normal face, which was IMO a silly screw up on the designer's part. I mean, can't he just move the darn visor a couple mm higher and not make it look like he has an unusually high forehead?
Not matter, since I really love the icy face. He'll probably be displayed in that face 90% of the time.![]()
william-james88 wrote:So that would also be the case for Predaking, who is also six members.
Arctorro wrote:Just had another look at the normal face, can see what you mean. Still kinda like it though
I'll probably use the icy face most of the time as well!
RAcast wrote:onable is the word I'll go with...GEEWUNER on this forum. If it's not EXPLICITLY G1, he has something bad to say about it.
And by something, I mean he usually comes up with some sort of rant.![]()
RAcast wrote:And they're FoC characters (i.e. Aligned universe), so you could very reasonably state that GEEWUN does not necessarily dictate the voyager triple changers outside of the visual homage.
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:RAcast wrote:unreasonable is the word I'll go with...GEEWUNER on this forum. If it's not EXPLICITLY G1, he has something bad to say about it.
And by something, I mean he usually comes up with some sort of rant.![]()
LOL! You should see some of the "debates" going on between Macross and Robotech fans in the other forums. There will be G1 "elitists" in any popular 80's franchise.
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:RAcast wrote:And they're FoC characters (i.e. Aligned universe), so you could very reasonably state that GEEWUN does not necessarily dictate the voyager triple changers outside of the visual homage.
FoC? I know they're part of the Generations line, but if they were FoC, shouldn't the toys be made from their Cybertronian designs?
As for Aligned...ah, the wonders of Google and TFwiki.I've seen this name mentioned in some articles, but never knew what it was until just now. I guess you're right, technically.
But then again, I wonder why they didn't just go with the FoC Cybertronian designs instead of vague neo-Earth modes?
I'm not complaining, though. The designs from the video games depended quite a bit on CGI magic, which when translated to toys, could easily lead to inaccuracies such as skewed proportions and even faux kibble (a pet peeve of mine.) Designing the triple changers from scratch without media references allows designers to make a better toy, and that's what's most important.
Springer2814 wrote:Let me guess the response:
its a minor thing get the F##K over it, if u dont get this your a MFing Dumba$$.(just a shot in the dark)
RAcast wrote::lol: There will always be elitests in ANYTHING. You should meet some "First gen pokemon are the only good pokemon!" people sometime, they're hilarious.![]()
RAcast wrote:Agreed, the artwork we saw shortly before we saw the final product was nice, and cybertronian designs do sometimes leave a lot of leeway so they DON'T have to do faux parts, but I'm glad they went with the designs they went with, they look SO GOOD.
GuyIncognito wrote:Hey, at least the jet mode doesn't have a huge tank turret that either attaches awkwardly to the bottom of the jet or has to be taken off and set aside! The "big blocks" on top of the jet are OK with me, as they remind me of Jetfire.
SKYWARPED_128 wrote: Good gosh, even Pokemon has its elitist snobs?!![]()
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