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I'll just restate what JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Rated X wrote:Sabrblade wrote:You have no idea what goes on in the process of dubbing, have you? Why are you being so Xenophobic?Rated X wrote:These guys in Japan can come up with designs for complex transforming robot toys but cant come up with a cast of english speakers to do voice overs. No disrespect to the Japanese, but cmon we gave you micheal Bays movies with voice overs...HOOK US UP !!!
No I dont, but Im sure somewhere out there in Japan there is a group of fans with enough talent and time on their hands to take on the job.
For the bazillionth time, this is the DOMESTIC Japanese DVD release. There are NO subtitles in this this set. NO ONE OUTSIDE OF JAPAN is intended to buy this set. Stop jumping to conclusions when you don't know the whole story.Rated X wrote:But hey if you like sub-tites, go for this version.
There is NO PROFIT in producing an English dub for a show about toys that haven't been for sale in 13 years. Hasbro would have to spend more than they'd earn on a new dub in order to make one.Rated X wrote:Id rather create a onlize buzz calling for the real deal. I know Im just a drop in the bucket, but you never know who reads these posts.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:I'll just restate what JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Rated X wrote:Sabrblade wrote:You have no idea what goes on in the process of dubbing, have you? Why are you being so Xenophobic?Rated X wrote:These guys in Japan can come up with designs for complex transforming robot toys but cant come up with a cast of english speakers to do voice overs. No disrespect to the Japanese, but cmon we gave you micheal Bays movies with voice overs...HOOK US UP !!!
No I dont, but Im sure somewhere out there in Japan there is a group of fans with enough talent and time on their hands to take on the job.
"Actually, the redubbing is done by separate studios (be them or be them not located in the US) who buy the rights to do so for such a series, not by the studios who originally created them. Why do you think we have studios like Funimation or 4Kids (blech)?
Besides, the "I scratch your back and you'll scratch mine" does not work in the business world."For the bazillionth time, this is the DOMESTIC Japanese DVD release. There are NO subtitles in this this set. NO ONE OUTSIDE OF JAPAN is intended to buy this set. Stop jumping to conclusions when you don't know the whole story.Rated X wrote:But hey if you like sub-tites, go for this version.
There is NO PROFIT in producing an English dub for a show about toys that haven't been for sale in 13 years. Hasbro would have to spend more than they'd earn on a new dub in order to make one.Rated X wrote:Id rather create a onlize buzz calling for the real deal. I know Im just a drop in the bucket, but you never know who reads these posts.
No profit for making a new DUB. There's profit for selling DVDs, that's an easy feat. Creating an entirely new ENGLISH DUB from the ground up (when one never existed) is a whole different story.Rated X wrote:No profit in english TF DVD's ??? I suppose all the Rhino releases were just made for charity...
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:No profit for making a new DUB. There's profit for selling DVDs, that's an easy feat. Creating an entirely new ENGLISH DUB from the ground up (when one never existed) is a whole different story.Rated X wrote:No profit in english TF DVD's ??? I suppose all the Rhino releases were just made for charity...
That's partly why they didn't create one for the Headmasters DVDs.
However, the release of these DVDs in Japan makes a better chance for one to happen in the West. As a subbed DVD release, that is, as a dub would be, realistically, next to impossible at this point.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Don't get me wrong, I'm still holding out for a domestic release, but I don't see one coming any time soon.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:However, the release of these DVDs in Japan makes a better chance for one to happen in the West. As a subbed DVD release, that is, as a dub would be, realistically, next to impossible at this point.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Don't get me wrong, I'm still holding out for a domestic release, but I don't see one coming any time soon.
Yes, but if Shout! Factory gets to release, then we can kiss a dub goodbye. And frankly, I don't really want a dub since it'd be severely edited from the source material.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Sabrblade wrote:However, the release of these DVDs in Japan makes a better chance for one to happen in the West. As a subbed DVD release, that is, as a dub would be, realistically, next to impossible at this point.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Don't get me wrong, I'm still holding out for a domestic release, but I don't see one coming any time soon.
Well, Media Blasters partially dubbed Yuusha-Oh GaiGaiGar which was in the same time frame more or less, and it was a show for a Takara line. Of course, that was back in 2006-2008, but who knows?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Yes, but if Shout! Factory gets to release, then we can kiss a dub goodbye. And frankly, I don't really want a dub since ti'd be severely edited from the source material.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Sabrblade wrote:However, the release of these DVDs in Japan makes a better chance for one to happen in the West. As a subbed DVD release, that is, as a dub would be, realistically, next to impossible at this point.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Don't get me wrong, I'm still holding out for a domestic release, but I don't see one coming any time soon.
Well, Media Blasters partially dubbed Yuusha-Oh GaiGaiGar which was in the same time frame more or less, and it was a show for a Takara line. Of course, that was back in 2006-2008, but who knows?
Though, what do you mean by they "partially" dubbed GaoGaiGar?
Well, that's... a let down.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:First half is dubbed, but the second half was only subbed either due to poor sales or poor fan reception.
It's not that I prefer subs over dubs, but rather that I prefer accuracy and faithfulness over unnecessary change (which is why I'm already ticked off by what Shout! Factory's doing to the JG1 DVDs). There do exist some very good and accurate English dubs out there, but BWII is one of those shows that would most definitely be edited in an English dub (about as edited as RiD was from Car Robots). For example, Tasmania Kid's peeing scene would likely get removed (not that I liked that scene to begin with, but the damage is done and it already exists, so removing it would be further damage).JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I prefer subbed too (accurately that is, our dutch subbing takes some liberties), but i want my wife to enjoy it too. She's not as used to subtitles as I am.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
cannonfodder4000 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:It's not that I prefer subs over dubs, but rather that I prefer accuracy and faithfulness over unnecessary change (which is why I'm already ticked off by what Shout! Factory's doing to the JG1 DVDs). There do exist some very good and accurate English dubs out there, but BWII is one of those shows that would most definitely be edited in an English dub (about as edited as RiD was from Car Robots). For example, Tasmania Kid's peeing scene would likely get removed (not that I liked that scene to begin with, but the damage is done and it already exists, so removing it would be further damage).JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I prefer subbed too (accurately that is, our dutch subbing takes some liberties), but i want my wife to enjoy it too. She's not as used to subtitles as I am.
Rated X wrote:Great, more subtitles. I have downloaded every Japansese TF series ever created but I just dont have the interest to watch them because subtitles ruin a show. I just cant seem to enjoy anything I have to read and watch at the same time. You cant keep up.
Rated X wrote:These guys in Japan can come up with designs for complex transforming robot toys but cant come up with a cast of english speakers to do voice overs. No disrespect to the Japanese, but cmon we gave you micheal Bays movies with voice overs...HOOK US UP !!!
Rated X wrote:.....cmon we gave you micheal Bays movies
X just doesn't know what he's talking about. Making assumptions without knowing the whole deal is all he's doing.gothsaurus wrote:Rated X wrote:.....cmon we gave you micheal Bays movies
I'm not sure how much of a bargaining chip this actually is. LOL.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Yes, but they're A) incomplete, having only subs on the first 12 episodes, and B) terrible video and audio quality having not aged well.gothsaurus wrote:In the meantime, there ARE torrents of this stuff somewhere with fan subtitles, right?? If I get it and have trouble figuring out the action, I can hit those.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Well, how would they do anything with good quality source videos? This the very first DVD release of BWII, 13 years after its original broadcast. The only things fans had to work with before now were VHS tapes, yet those do not age well. Plus, given how this show is often considered to be the Beast Era equivalent of Transformers: Energon, there hasn't been that great an interest in fansubbing it once the subbers got to see what it was really like.gothsaurus wrote:wow. that's disappointing. How long have fans had to work on these... not even fan-DUBBING, but simply SUBBING.![]()
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
IAmThePeej wrote:cannonfodder4000 wrote:
I think I just found my next tattoo. That is the most amazing image I've ever seen of Lio Convoy
Ring-u wrote:Is the DVD still listed there? Where is the
Now discounted down to 22,156 yen.Sabrblade wrote:It has been released! As of yesterday, Japan now has Beast Wars II: Super Lifeform Transformers available on DVD in full for the first time ever in 13 years!![]()
Amazon Japan has it in stock for the discounted price of 22,442 yen (instead of its full price of 29,400 yen).
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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