The Energon Pub

Dead Metal wrote:So if you don't have the DVDs, and live in a country that has Netflix, and you've wanted to relieve such classic moments like Megatron (the Beast era version) blasting Optimus Prime in the face (you know who I mean, Optimus Primal isn't Opimus Prime) and almost altering history and the rise of Optimal Optimus, well here's your chance!

unless of course the Netflix in the country you're in doesn't have Beast Wars available at all.

So know we got the complete Beast Wars series. Soon we will also have Dark of the Moon (can't wait to watch it a number of times....I'm thinking at least once a week)

I wish they would get the 1986 movie on the streams! That would be nice. We can have complete G1 and if they get Beast Machines (if Shout! Factory decides it's worthy of release) then we could have the complete "This is what Transformers was like when we were little" set. Not that Prime is anything to be sneezed at.

TBH, I haven't watched all of the Unicron Trilogy (Armada, Energon featuring fat Optimus, Cybertron) but RID was pretty bad. Except for Sky-Byte. Though RID did introduce the stooge consept to Transformers (though in Armada they trimmed it a little...Starscream is hardly stooge material)

this is when they made megatron into a dragon for no reason other than to get a new toy on the show. stupid. this scene also raises a lot of questions. like what dragon form did he scan to get that mode? and why was he not killed being in lava for so long? terrorsaur and scorpinok died from this.

all in all best season though.

as much as i hate waspinator and black araknias feminine bs. this show will always be better than prime.

Dr. Heavy B wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:When is Rescue Bots gonna get on Netflix already?! What's taking so long for them to put it on there?!

First, rescue bots needs to finish the season (they're not iTunes, they don't add single episodes.) Then the DVD/Blu-Ray needs to be released. Then it'll be added 2 months after the DVD. But thats just based on what I experieneced with Netflix

Okay, but then how come Netflix has all of My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic up for streaming when it has yet to receive any complete season DVD/Blu-Ray releases? Or how about Netflix already having every single Power Rangers season when only a handful of episodes from certain seasons have had any DVD release?

Does a show really need to come out on DVD/Blu-Ray first (and in full) before it can get on Netflix?

Good move Netflix after I watched it on Youtube 2 weeks ago.

Sabrblade wrote:

Dr. Heavy B wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:When is Rescue Bots gonna get on Netflix already?! What's taking so long for them to put it on there?!

First, rescue bots needs to finish the season (they're not iTunes, they don't add single episodes.) Then the DVD/Blu-Ray needs to be released. Then it'll be added 2 months after the DVD. But thats just based on what I experieneced with Netflix

Okay, but then how come Netflix has all of My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic up for streaming when it has yet to receive any complete season DVD/Blu-Ray releases? Or how about Netflix already having every single Power Rangers season when only a handful of episodes from certain seasons have had any DVD release?

Does a show really need to come out on DVD/Blu-Ray first (and in full) before it can get on Netflix?

Maybe not, reread my post, I said MY EXPERIANCE. When I first got netflix, I started watching Rescue Me (I can't start watching a show half way through.) And it finished up at season 5. After the series ended, they released the season 6 and 7 dvd. Two months later, on netflix, and I could finish up. Same thing with the fifteenth season of South Park. Two months.

But even if it isn't required, RB still hasn't finished its season. 18 episodes have been shown/announced, which means another 8 eppisodes for a 26 episode season. (ending the season late august/early september) so you most likely wouldn't see rescue bots untill november/december. And thats if there is no planned DVD release.

griftimus prime wrote:this is when they made megatron into a dragon for no reason other than to get a new toy on the show. stupid. this scene also raises a lot of questions. like what dragon form did he scan to get that mode? and why was he not killed being in lava for so long? terrorsaur and scorpinok died from this.

He turns into a goddamn dragon. Who needs a reason for that?
The best semblance of an explanation is that he survived and mutated by having G1 Megatron's spark inside him at the time, similar to how Optimus became Optimal Optimus with G1 Prime's spark. Being surrounded by lava influenced his mutation into a fire-based creature, a dragon. It's shaky, but no more shaky than being able to reconstruct a T-Rex alt mode from a skeleton or Waspinator being able to survive all the things he survives.

Dr. Heavy B wrote:Maybe not, reread my post, I said MY EXPERIANCE.

My bad.

Dr. Heavy B wrote:But even if it isn't required, RB still hasn't finished its season. 18 episodes have been shown/announced, which means another 8 eppisodes for a 26 episode season. (ending the season late august/early september) so you most likely wouldn't see rescue bots untill november/december. And thats if there is no planned DVD release.

Still wish it wasn't that long off. This show is fantastic, yet it is SO hard to view for those who don't have the Hub and are unable to catch it on the day(s) it's put online. I'm dying for more people to see it in any way possible.

That Bot wrote:

griftimus prime wrote:this is when they made megatron into a dragon for no reason other than to get a new toy on the show. stupid. this scene also raises a lot of questions. like what dragon form did he scan to get that mode? and why was he not killed being in lava for so long? terrorsaur and scorpinok died from this.

He turns into a goddamn dragon. Who needs a reason for that?
The best semblance of an explanation is that he survived and mutated by having G1 Megatron's spark inside him at the time, similar to how Optimus became Optimal Optimus with G1 Prime's spark. Being surrounded by lava influenced his mutation into a fire-based creature, a dragon. It's shaky, but no more shaky than being able to reconstruct a T-Rex alt mode from a skeleton or Waspinator being able to survive all the things he survives.

It's griftimus prime. 8/10 of his posts are negatives about anything.

I tried to watch this but it got bad quick. Worst idea ever, animal transformers? So corny

WARNING: The following post contains large amounts of sarcasm. Read at your own risk.

krayziejones wrote:I tried to watch this but it got bad quick. Worst idea ever, animal transformers? So corny

Because, you know, Beast Wars had the VERY FIRST animal transformers. There were no Dinobots, Insecticons, Terrorcons, or Predacons in G1, oh no. And Transformers is historically known for being a thrilling daytime drama, not a corny kids' show. Robots turning into cars? Legit. Robots turning into animals? WTF IS THIS CRAP. And hey! Who put good writing in my Beast Wars cartoon because the limited animation budget forced a small cast which therefore got well-developed? Yeah, worst idea ever. Much worse than the pervert Transformers, or robot testicles, or killing off all the main characters of your show to make room for new toys (not in itself a horrible idea but handled badly), etc.

That Bot wrote:WARNING: The following post contains large amounts of sarcasm. Read at your own risk.

krayziejones wrote:I tried to watch this but it got bad quick. Worst idea ever, animal transformers? So corny

Because, you know, Beast Wars had the VERY FIRST animal transformers. There were no Dinobots, Insecticons, Terrorcons, or Predacons in G1, oh no. And Transformers is historically known for being a thrilling daytime drama, not a corny kids' show. Robots turning into cars? Legit. Robots turning into animals? WTF IS THIS CRAP. And hey! Who put good writing in my Beast Wars cartoon because the limited animation budget forced a small cast which therefore got well-developed? Yeah, worst idea ever. Much worse than the pervert Transformers, or robot testicles, or killing off all the main characters of your show to make room for new toys (not in itself a horrible idea but handled badly), etc.

i'm talking about them looking exactly like real animals and insects, I like the robotic ones like the dinobots. now go wipe your tears

krayziejones wrote:

That Bot wrote:WARNING: The following post contains large amounts of sarcasm. Read at your own risk.

krayziejones wrote:I tried to watch this but it got bad quick. Worst idea ever, animal transformers? So corny

Because, you know, Beast Wars had the VERY FIRST animal transformers. There were no Dinobots, Insecticons, Terrorcons, or Predacons in G1, oh no. And Transformers is historically known for being a thrilling daytime drama, not a corny kids' show. Robots turning into cars? Legit. Robots turning into animals? WTF IS THIS CRAP. And hey! Who put good writing in my Beast Wars cartoon because the limited animation budget forced a small cast which therefore got well-developed? Yeah, worst idea ever. Much worse than the pervert Transformers, or robot testicles, or killing off all the main characters of your show to make room for new toys (not in itself a horrible idea but handled badly), etc.

i'm talking about them looking exactly like real animals and insects, I like the robotic ones like the dinobots. now go wipe your tears

Sure, because having realistic disguises is such a sin in the Transformers media. Let them be crucified if there's ever TF that turns into a realistic-looking car or jet. Down with realism, up with fantasy!

Sabrblade wrote:

krayziejones wrote:

That Bot wrote:WARNING: The following post contains large amounts of sarcasm. Read at your own risk.

krayziejones wrote:I tried to watch this but it got bad quick. Worst idea ever, animal transformers? So corny

Because, you know, Beast Wars had the VERY FIRST animal transformers. There were no Dinobots, Insecticons, Terrorcons, or Predacons in G1, oh no. And Transformers is historically known for being a thrilling daytime drama, not a corny kids' show. Robots turning into cars? Legit. Robots turning into animals? WTF IS THIS CRAP. And hey! Who put good writing in my Beast Wars cartoon because the limited animation budget forced a small cast which therefore got well-developed? Yeah, worst idea ever. Much worse than the pervert Transformers, or robot testicles, or killing off all the main characters of your show to make room for new toys (not in itself a horrible idea but handled badly), etc.

i'm talking about them looking exactly like real animals and insects, I like the robotic ones like the dinobots. now go wipe your tears

Sure, because having realistic disguises is such a sin in the Transformers media. Let them be crucified if there's ever TF that turns into a realistic-looking car or jet. Down with realism, up with fantasy!

Cars and jets are understandable because they are mechanical but using something made of flesh and blood, that's corny. I mean some of the transmetal stuff was cool looking but I'm talking about the original beast wars. The idea was dumb, my opinion. You people are way too sensitive about someone stating their opinion.

krayziejones wrote:Cars and jets are understandable because they are mechanical but using something made of flesh and blood, that's corny. I mean some of the transmetal stuff was cool looking but I'm talking about the original beast wars. The idea was dumb, my opinion. You people are way too sensitive about someone stating their opinion.

There is no actual "flesh and blood". Their organic "skins" (for lack of a better term) are just external covers worn on the outside on their superstructures to better enhance the look of their altmodes.

If your seriously going to judge an entire show based entirely on an aspect of the characters' appearances, then that's no better than judging a whole country based on the clothes worn by its people.

Sabrblade wrote:

krayziejones wrote:Cars and jets are understandable because they are mechanical but using something made of flesh and blood, that's corny. I mean some of the transmetal stuff was cool looking but I'm talking about the original beast wars. The idea was dumb, my opinion. You people are way too sensitive about someone stating their opinion.

There is no actual "flesh and blood". Their organic "skins" (for lack of a better term) are just external covers worn on the outside on their superstructures to better enhance the look of their altmodes.

If your seriously going to judge an entire show based entirely on an aspect of the characters' appearances, then that's no better than judging a whole country based on the skin color of its people.

So you're calling me a racist? You should watch what you say because you don't know anything about me. Yeah, I'm judging this particular show for the idea of animals turning into robots not because of what they look like. I don't like beast wars, opinion stated. Like what you want and get over it.

I apologize for the harshness of what I wrote and have amended it to have a different statement of less offense.

But the point that Beast Wars is more than mere animal robots still stands. Altmodes do not make a series.