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Dorkimus wrote:Take it the way you please. After all, you right wing people like to lable anyone, who is not thinking as you the enemy.
-Kanrabat- wrote:Dorkimus wrote:Take it the way you please. After all, you right wing people like to lable anyone, who is not thinking as you the enemy.
You really think so?
Because so far, us "right wing" people are willing to listen and have a discussion without threats of doxxing, cancelling, or doing actual violence.
Do an experiment. walk around wearing a MAGA hat in a "left wing" neighborhood. You'll be lucky with a just trip to the hospital.
Now walk around a "right wing" neighborhood with a BLM, LGBT, Biden shirt. The worst that will happen to you is someone saying "your dumb" (misspelling intentional).
Try listening to the other side for once as we do.
Also, why do you think that yesterday liberals and moderates, like me, are now considered "far right" by the Left?
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Dorkimus wrote:If you quote these, then follow the whole conversation and not just part of it. Your Friend mr Black Hat here just labeled me as a "terrorist" based on the fact that my asnwer was not what he wanted. Asnwer to a question where one can't simply answer yes or no. Specially since he most likely had already made his mind about the matter. So yes, I kind of think so. Note that I have not cancelled anyone or threathened anybody. But yeah...nevermind then. Lets agree that we are forever divided or somesuch.
High Command wrote:Super Mega Ultra Wicked Godlike Bigger Longer and Uncut SNIP
rockHard83 wrote:Black Lives Matter.
It is so strange to read other fansites where this sort of debate is just banned. Like the world outside of our windows just doesn't exist.
I don't know if antifa in the US are bad girls and guys, could be. The ones we have here are good guys, doing what antifascists are supposed to: punch Nazis in the face.
In an ideal world all policing and judgement should be lefts to the courts and police, of course. But when some As#hole decides to align themselves with the ideology that was behind Nazi Germany, the genocide during ww2, then it's alright to punch them in the face. In my honest opinion.
Black Hat wrote:If you were a German in world war 2 what would you have done?
I would have fought for my people, as anyone in any other country in any conflict would.
Black Hat wrote:You aren't racist, are you?
Black Hat wrote:Why did the woman in Central Park think she could threaten someone by saying that she'd call the cops, when she was in the wrong and on film?
Why did she change her tone when she made the call and point out that a black man was attacking her?
What did she think was going to be the likely outcome when the cops arrived?
Why did she think this?
Why do you know what she was thinking too?
Who?
Black Hat wrote:Let me ask you some questions.
You are a policeman. You have to work in a community of a particular demographic that has higher than average crime rates as a result of the culture that has been fostered within that community (including among other members of the community who are not part of that demographic I might add). Violence is commonplace. Authority is not respected. You may or may not be part of the majority demographic, but because you uphold the law, you are disliked. A man who has committed violent crimes before is in the process of breaking the law. You are meant to apprehend him, and he begins to flee. How would you react?
Burn wrote:I'm never clicking any of your links ever again.
Burn wrote:High Command is an arsehat.
High Command wrote:Super Mega Ultra Wicked Godlike Bigger Longer and Uncut SNIP
I'm sure there are some of those here in the US as well. Unfortunately their good work is drowned out by the louder, more brazen and reckless part of their members. A lot of them blatantly harass and physically assault people they deem anything other than what they are, and they hide behind masks and hoods because they know what they're doing is wrong and they don't want to answer for it. But they are just a small number compared to those seeking actual justice, and hopefully they won't have a large enough effect to hijack the peaceful protesters' message. That's why we always have to have our eyes open and listen to everything and not be fooled by their propaganda.rockHard83 wrote:I don't know if antifa in the US are bad girls and guys, could be. The ones we have here are good guys, doing what antifascists are supposed to: punch Nazis in the face.
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Be VERY careful of who you associate yourself with. Because for any antifa, the "Nazis" are everyone who don't agree with them. And ironically, especially Jewish people.
Sooner or later, THIS will happen to you if you associate with Antifa or support any other extremist groups:
Burn wrote:There's a few people in this thread who were already skating on thin ice and are at the point I could probably permanently ban them.
Burn wrote:Not the bigges snip I've made today, but still big
Diaboragon wrote:Burn wrote:There's a few people in this thread who were already skating on thin ice and are at the point I could probably permanently ban them.
This is a mentality that I must say I simply abhor. Everywhere around the internet people with authority are carving out small pockets of their own perspectives. All sides of the spectrum are trying to wall themselves up into hiveminds that only serves to drive us further apart and reinforce the "us and them" that has accelerated these extreme divisions.
You may not like what the other person is saying, but if you delete them from your life then any outcome of coming to an understanding, no matter how small, disappears and becomes more bitter resentment for everyone.
Rodimus Prime wrote:So before you call me a racist or a "**** asshole" for not being a sheep and instead considering what BLM actually is as opposed to what it claims to be, please know the difference.
Black Hat wrote:High Command wrote:Has the KKK ever been recognised as a terrorist organisation?
The KKK is defunct and outlawed.
ShadowKatt wrote:I don't disagree with Ryan's position in all of this, only what it's done to the community here. The response should never have been this toxic or straight up hateful, in either direction. Can't be undone now though.
Yeah, you did but it's not your fault. Sometimes I have trouble properly communicating my points, especially when I'm in a hurry. Actually ShadowKatt said it much better than I did in the post before yours.Burn wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:So before you call me a racist or a "**** asshole" for not being a sheep and instead considering what BLM actually is as opposed to what it claims to be, please know the difference.
You know, I could have accepted everything you said there, but you basically said three things.
1 - I wasn't educated on what BLM is so you took it upon yourself to do so thereby...
2 - Calling people like me who don't understand BLM a "sheep".
3 - That you think I would resort to calling you an asshole for not being a sheep. I call you an asshole because calling people names is an Australian way of showing mateship! Along with ****, dickhead, knob jockey ... you get the idea.
Please, tell me I've taken that the wrong way.
rockHard83 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:
Be VERY careful of who you associate yourself with. Because for any antifa, the "Nazis" are everyone who don't agree with them. And ironically, especially Jewish people.
Sooner or later, THIS will happen to you if you associate with Antifa or support any other extremist groups:
Do you have a reliable source for those claims about antifa?
And I must say that YouTube clip is just silly. What are you trying to tell me?
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