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Rodimus Prime wrote:Once again, I'm in agreement. But all that you just wrote doesn't excuse the failures of the Constitution or the failures of the men who wrote it. You're right, it will fail, because it was fallible to begin with, which was my point in the first place.
None of them. Socialism (in ALL its forms) and communism are failures outright. Capitalism is better but it can definitely be improved on. The lack of regulations on parts of it is what leads to economic and societal inequality, keeping people who work hard from rising up and having a better quality of life, while some of those who come from old money keep on cheating and manipulating the system because they can. Once in a while we have someone who either gets lucky or comes up with an idea that will make that person wealthy. That's the good part. But then more often than not that person becomes one of the 'elite' and forgets wheres/he came from once that power through wealth is acquired. It is yet another thing the Constitution is supposedly protecting us against. Everyone should have a fair chance in our legal system, yet corruption is rampant. Same goes for the industrial sector, but that can't be blamed on the inadequities of the Constitution itself, just on the inadequities of those tasked with interpreting and enforcing it.Truthstar9 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Once again, I'm in agreement. But all that you just wrote doesn't excuse the failures of the Constitution or the failures of the men who wrote it. You're right, it will fail, because it was fallible to begin with, which was my point in the first place.
When one pushes something down they are usually holding onto another. So, which country or system currently in place do you hold dear?
Rodimus Prime wrote:None of them. Socialism (in ALL its forms) and communism are failures outright. Capitalism is better but it can definitely be improved on. The lack of regulations on parts of it is what leads to economic and societal inequality, keeping people who work hard from rising up and having a better quality of life, while some of those who come from old money keep on cheating and manipulating the system because they can. Once in a while we have someone who either gets lucky or comes up with an idea that will make that person wealthy. That's the good part. But then more often than not that person becomes one of the 'elite' and forgets wheres/he came from once that power through wealth is acquired. It is yet another thing the Constitution is supposedly protecting us against. Everyone should have a fair chance in our legal system, yet corruption is rampant. Same goes for the industrial sector, but that can't be blamed on the inadequities of the Constitution itself, just on the inadequities of those tasked with interpreting and enforcing it.Truthstar9 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Once again, I'm in agreement. But all that you just wrote doesn't excuse the failures of the Constitution or the failures of the men who wrote it. You're right, it will fail, because it was fallible to begin with, which was my point in the first place.
When one pushes something down they are usually holding onto another. So, which country or system currently in place do you hold dear?
Rodimus Prime wrote:No, I'm simply pointing out the failures of the Constitution. But you are ignorant. You see things 1 way through a narrow view. Like you said, the world is bigger than you think it is, and not everyone is the same or comes from the same place. Which is why some of them come here, again, like you said. So why don't you think about your own words and realize that opportunity is not the same for everyone and equality is not everyone should have the equal amount at the finish line, but everyone should be given the same opportunity to achieve whatever they decide to set as their goal. Success is not the same for every person. Once you open your eyes to more than just your little corner of the world and see what some other people go through maybe you'll have a better understanding of the world.
You should have kept the other reply, maybe it would have made you look like less of an imbecile. Because what you did respond with makes no sense and has nothing to do with what I said.Truthstar9 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:No, I'm simply pointing out the failures of the Constitution. But you are ignorant. You see things 1 way through a narrow view. Like you said, the world is bigger than you think it is, and not everyone is the same or comes from the same place. Which is why some of them come here, again, like you said. So why don't you think about your own words and realize that opportunity is not the same for everyone and equality is not everyone should have the equal amount at the finish line, but everyone should be given the same opportunity to achieve whatever they decide to set as their goal. Success is not the same for every person. Once you open your eyes to more than just your little corner of the world and see what some other people go through maybe you'll have a better understanding of the world.
I wrote a long reply but realized its a waste of breath. Libtards typically change their mindset with age because people tend to mature.
There is nothing funnier than a SJW wailing for a medic. Should be an entertaining next few months.
Rodimus Prime wrote:You should have kept the other reply, maybe it would have made you look like less of an imbecile. Because what you did respond with makes no sense and has nothing to do with what I said.Truthstar9 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:No, I'm simply pointing out the failures of the Constitution. But you are ignorant. You see things 1 way through a narrow view. Like you said, the world is bigger than you think it is, and not everyone is the same or comes from the same place. Which is why some of them come here, again, like you said. So why don't you think about your own words and realize that opportunity is not the same for everyone and equality is not everyone should have the equal amount at the finish line, but everyone should be given the same opportunity to achieve whatever they decide to set as their goal. Success is not the same for every person. Once you open your eyes to more than just your little corner of the world and see what some other people go through maybe you'll have a better understanding of the world.
I wrote a long reply but realized its a waste of breath. Libtards typically change their mindset with age because people tend to mature.
There is nothing funnier than a SJW wailing for a medic. Should be an entertaining next few months.
AcademyofDrX wrote:In more positive news, it's been heartening to see professional athletes using labor actions as a form of nonviolent protest. Maybe I'm too optimistic, but I'm hopeful that society will recommit to lasting change. Too many organizations have seemed ready to move on.
Rodimus Prime wrote:Once again, I'm in agreement. But all that you just wrote doesn't excuse the failures of the Constitution or the failures of the men who wrote it. You're right, it will fail, because it was fallible to begin with, which was my point in the first place.
Rodimus Prime wrote:None of them. Socialism (in ALL its forms) and communism are failures outright. Capitalism is better but it can definitely be improved on. The lack of regulations on parts of it is what leads to economic and societal inequality, keeping people who work hard from rising up and having a better quality of life, while some of those who come from old money keep on cheating and manipulating the system because they can. Once in a while we have someone who either gets lucky or comes up with an idea that will make that person wealthy. That's the good part. But then more often than not that person becomes one of the 'elite' and forgets wheres/he came from once that power through wealth is acquired. It is yet another thing the Constitution is supposedly protecting us against. Everyone should have a fair chance in our legal system, yet corruption is rampant. Same goes for the industrial sector, but that can't be blamed on the inadequities of the Constitution itself, just on the inadequities of those tasked with interpreting and enforcing it.
Burn wrote:Okay, enough with the insults.
Truthstar9, are you on this site to discuss JUST politics or are you planning to engage in other parts of the forums as well?
AcademyofDrX wrote:In more positive news, it's been heartening to see professional athletes using labor actions as a form of nonviolent protest. Maybe I'm too optimistic, but I'm hopeful that society will recommit to lasting change. Too many organizations have seemed ready to move on.
Burn wrote:Okay, enough with the insults.
Truthstar9, are you on this site to discuss JUST politics or are you planning to engage in other parts of the forums as well?
Rodimus Prime wrote:None of them. Socialism (in ALL its forms) and communism are failures outright. Capitalism is better but it can definitely be improved on. The lack of regulations on parts of it is what leads to economic and societal inequality, keeping people who work hard from rising up and having a better quality of life, while some of those who come from old money keep on cheating and manipulating the system because they can. Once in a while we have someone who either gets lucky or comes up with an idea that will make that person wealthy. That's the good part. But then more often than not that person becomes one of the 'elite' and forgets wheres/he came from once that power through wealth is acquired. It is yet another thing the Constitution is supposedly protecting us against. Everyone should have a fair chance in our legal system, yet corruption is rampant. Same goes for the industrial sector, but that can't be blamed on the inadequities of the Constitution itself, just on the inadequities of those tasked with interpreting and enforcing it.
Shadowkatt wrote:I was going to make a long post with a point by point refutation like I did the last time, but firstly, that's a lot of work, and secondly, I don't think that's necessary. I don't think you have a problem with the constitution. You just have a problem with the people that used it.
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Truthstar9 wrote:ShadowKatt wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:None of them. Socialism (in ALL its forms) and communism are failures outright. Capitalism is better but it can definitely be improved on. The lack of regulations on parts of it is what leads to economic and societal inequality, keeping people who work hard from rising up and having a better quality of life, while some of those who come from old money keep on cheating and manipulating the system because they can. Once in a while we have someone who either gets lucky or comes up with an idea that will make that person wealthy. That's the good part. But then more often than not that person becomes one of the 'elite' and forgets wheres/he came from once that power through wealth is acquired. It is yet another thing the Constitution is supposedly protecting us against. Everyone should have a fair chance in our legal system, yet corruption is rampant. Same goes for the industrial sector, but that can't be blamed on the inadequities of the Constitution itself, just on the inadequities of those tasked with interpreting and enforcing it.
I was going to make a long post with a point by point refutation like I did the last time, but firstly, that's a lot of work, and secondly, I don't think that's necessary. I don't think you have a problem with the constitution. You just have a problem with the people that used it.
Bingo. He's just butt hurt all peoples(cultures) weren't included in forging a new Country. Drinking all that Kool-Aid of peaceful Natives who were pushed off their lands. Our Founders wanted to smoke'm peace pipe and do a pow wow but the other side were too busy raiding, raping and killing babies the day the Constitution was being written.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMWPP-vXzhQ
ShadowKatt wrote:
Thirdly, and I believe I've already told Karanbat this, but posting videos does not an arguement make. You can source them, but don't rely on them to make your arguements for you.
-Kanrabat- wrote:ShadowKatt wrote:
Thirdly, and I believe I've already told Karanbat this, but posting videos does not an arguement make. You can source them, but don't rely on them to make your arguements for you.
And why not? If I want to talk specific points about the lions in the Savannah, should I fly to Africa to make the research myself, or can I just leave it to a pro who have already done all the work?
Burn wrote:Okay, enough with the insults.
Truthstar9, are you on this site to discuss JUST politics or are you planning to engage in other parts of the forums as well?
Shadowkatt wrote:If he's insulted someone and you want to call him out on it, warn him, whatever, you do that. That's your job. But you are not the arbiter of where someone can or must go on the site and it is wholly inappropriate for you to even ask where or whether they will go. The forums are not exclusive to or restricted from certain members. You are a mod, not the archangel of justice, and I will be here to remind you of that.
-WonkoTheSane- wrote:Burn wrote:ShadowKatt wrote:Okay, enough with the insults.
Truthstar9, are you on this site to discuss JUST politics or are you planning to engage in other parts of the forums as well?
If he's insulted someone and you want to call him out on it, warn him, whatever, you do that. That's your job. But you are not the arbiter of where someone can or must go on the site and it is wholly inappropriate for you to even ask where or whether they will go. The forums are not exclusive to or restricted from certain members. You are a mod, not the archangel of justice, and I will be here to remind you of that.
Though I'm still trying to refrain from commenting in this thread, Since there for a while it was more toxic then Chernobyl on your average Thursday, I think what Burn may be referring to (or continuing off of, Really) was a thread posted by someone who'd just gotten over COVID, Who was drinking and depressed over the pandemic, And Truthstar just showed up and started ranting and insulting the poor guy while drowning him in an unrelenting swarm of politics. He's been pretty much doing the same thing here. And everything I've seen posted of his was political, Even on threads that weren't. I assume Burn is asking (though it may've been worded a little better) if he's going to interact with the community in any meaningful way, Or just keep dragging politics (kicking and screaming) into everything.
-WonkoTheSane- wrote:Burn wrote:ShadowKatt wrote:Okay, enough with the insults.
Truthstar9, are you on this site to discuss JUST politics or are you planning to engage in other parts of the forums as well?
If he's insulted someone and you want to call him out on it, warn him, whatever, you do that. That's your job. But you are not the arbiter of where someone can or must go on the site and it is wholly inappropriate for you to even ask where or whether they will go. The forums are not exclusive to or restricted from certain members. You are a mod, not the archangel of justice, and I will be here to remind you of that.
Though I'm still trying to refrain from commenting in this thread, Since there for a while it was more toxic then Chernobyl on your average Thursday, I think what Burn may be referring to (or continuing off of, Really) was a thread posted by someone who'd just gotten over COVID, Who was drinking and depressed over the pandemic, And Truthstar just showed up and started ranting and insulting the poor guy while drowning him in an unrelenting swarm of politics. He's been pretty much doing the same thing here. And everything I've seen posted of his was political, Even on threads that weren't. I assume Burn is asking (though it may've been worded a little better) if he's going to interact with the community in any meaningful way, Or just keep dragging politics (kicking and screaming) into everything.
ShadowKatt wrote:-WonkoTheSane- wrote:Burn wrote:ShadowKatt wrote:Okay, enough with the insults.
Truthstar9, are you on this site to discuss JUST politics or are you planning to engage in other parts of the forums as well?
If he's insulted someone and you want to call him out on it, warn him, whatever, you do that. That's your job. But you are not the arbiter of where someone can or must go on the site and it is wholly inappropriate for you to even ask where or whether they will go. The forums are not exclusive to or restricted from certain members. You are a mod, not the archangel of justice, and I will be here to remind you of that.
Though I'm still trying to refrain from commenting in this thread, Since there for a while it was more toxic then Chernobyl on your average Thursday, I think what Burn may be referring to (or continuing off of, Really) was a thread posted by someone who'd just gotten over COVID, Who was drinking and depressed over the pandemic, And Truthstar just showed up and started ranting and insulting the poor guy while drowning him in an unrelenting swarm of politics. He's been pretty much doing the same thing here. And everything I've seen posted of his was political, Even on threads that weren't. I assume Burn is asking (though it may've been worded a little better) if he's going to interact with the community in any meaningful way, Or just keep dragging politics (kicking and screaming) into everything.
That may be the case but I'm going to stand by what I said about it being an inappropriate question and insinuation. Now, I was gone for a while and I know some things have changed. I noticed that the ENTIRE R&P forum is gone and there are new rules about R&P on the boards. Dunno what happened, dunno the exact extent of the changes, but if he's breaking a rule by bringing it into other threads, then mod action needed. That still doesn't justify the answer demanded, even less so from a mod given the position of authority and responsibility.
Edit: By the way, this thread is still more toxic than Chernobyl and you should probably get yourself checked, yeah...
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